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In post 698, TheIrishPope wrote:

In post 678, fferyllt wrote:

In post 677, TheIrishPope wrote:What reflective thing, fferyllt?

where you do the mime-in-the-mirror thing to whatever someone says to you. Bad habits die hard.

I seriously don't know what you're talking about.

I've called you out for it before. Someone FoSes you for something. You turn that exact FoS back on them. Someone tunnels you. You tunnel them for the same reasons they give for tunneling you. I've seen you do it as scum and as town. But, you mostly stopped doing it during/after the Popcorn game.

Now it's back. And I wonder why.

In post 699, TheIrishPope wrote:Lynx_Shine thinks I'm scum because I asked her some questions. Interesting.

What do you make of Cheery Dog's refusal to claim?

And you fferyllt?

In post 702, Grimgroove wrote:And you fferyllt?

I'd kinda like for TiP to answer this before I do.

@fferyllt, according to you, it's not important because it's not indicative of my alignment. Move on.
@Grimgroove, his refusal to claim means nothing. I understand him. He will be mislynched and he does not feel the need to claim, because it will not stop the lynch. A claim only delays the inevitable.

In post 704, TheIrishPope wrote: @Grimgroove, his refusal to claim means nothing. I understand him. He will be mislynched and he does not feel the need to claim, because it will not stop the lynch. A claim only delays the inevitable.

If it will not stop the lynch, not claiming means more of a delay than claiming does.

I'd say it's quite controversial not to claim at this stage. I see no town-motive for "not feeling the need to claim". If he's bitter because he's being suspected he should get over it now and get his act together.

What makes you so sure it will be a mislynch?

In post 702, Grimgroove wrote:And you fferyllt?

In post 704, TheIrishPope wrote:@fferyllt, according to you, it's not important because it's not indicative of my alignment. Move on.
@Grimgroove, his refusal to claim means nothing. I understand him. He will be mislynched and he does not feel the need to claim, because it will not stop the lynch. A claim only delays the inevitable.

It WASN'T indicative of your alignment then. It showing back up after you had stopped doing it for a while could be significant. It certainly pinged to me last night.

@Grimgroove, I have a townread on him.
@fferyllt, how does this concern me?

In post 702, Grimgroove wrote:And you fferyllt?

Two things bother me a little about it. The longer the day continues the more associative tells will potentially make it into the thread. If he's scum, I think closing this day out would make sense, and delaying is not optimal scum play unless he thinks the wagon could shift again. I can also see the stubborn insistence that jason answer his question coming from a town perspective.

In post 707, TheIrishPope wrote:@Grimgroove, I have a townread on him.
@fferyllt, how does this concern me?

It doesn't, unless my getting a scum vibe from that post is a concern to you.

It is not. Why did you feel the need to mention that?

In post 710, TheIrishPope wrote:It is not. Why did you feel the need to mention that?

Because you asked.

Hrm...
ISOing you, if it makes you feel better.

In post 708, fferyllt wrote:

In post 702, Grimgroove wrote:And you fferyllt?

Two things bother me a little about it. The longer the day continues the more associative tells will potentially make it into the thread.

Not in the state this game is currently in.

In post 699, TheIrishPope wrote:Lynx_Shine thinks I'm scum because I asked her some questions. Interesting.

Show me where I said you were scum. Ffery sent some accusations over a previous game. I find you frustrating and fairly annoying so far but on a game level I'm betting you're Town. Personal differences aside, whether or not we're going to get along has nothing to do with my reading you.

In post 708, fferyllt wrote:Two things bother me a little about it. The longer the day continues the more associative tells will potentially make it into the thread. If he's scum, I think closing this day out would make sense, and delaying is not optimal scum play unless he thinks the wagon could shift again. I can also see the stubborn insistence that jason answer his question coming from a town perspective.

He's been trying to flip the wagon onto Jason for awhile, I read this as Scum picking one person to try to sacrifice to buy themselves a day (fairly common where I came from, became a reliable scumtell). Up until recently, it was primarily anti-Jason and accusations of sheeping grimgroove. He hasn't responded to many things until several others claimed ready to hammer, and the game was basically coasting before that. "I won't respond because I just won't" is working well as a way to drag out the Day; until a few days ago, it was primarily a back and forth of "Cheery answer" "no you answer" so there was no real Town discussion to benefit from.

Huh. You find me frustrating because I'm trying to win the game. Interesting.

In post 714, Lynx_Shine wrote:

In post 699, TheIrishPope wrote:Lynx_Shine thinks I'm scum because I asked her some questions. Interesting.

Show me where I said you were scum. Ffery sent some accusations over a previous game. I find you frustrating and fairly annoying so far but on a game level I'm betting you're Town. Personal differences aside, whether or not we're going to get along has nothing to do with my reading you.

In post 708, fferyllt wrote:Two things bother me a little about it. The longer the day continues the more associative tells will potentially make it into the thread. If he's scum, I think closing this day out would make sense, and delaying is not optimal scum play unless he thinks the wagon could shift again. I can also see the stubborn insistence that jason answer his question coming from a town perspective.

He's been trying to flip the wagon onto Jason for awhile, I read this as Scum picking one person to try to sacrifice to buy themselves a day (fairly common where I came from, became a reliable scumtell). Up until recently, it was primarily anti-Jason and accusations of sheeping grimgroove. He hasn't responded to many things until several others claimed ready to hammer, and the game was basically coasting before that. "I won't respond because I just won't" is working well as a way to drag out the Day; until a few days ago, it was primarily a back and forth of "Cheery answer" "no you answer" so there was no real Town discussion to benefit from.

This is all true, but if he is scum, there is probably something in the game thread, including day 2, to point to his partner. In a large game scum can lay down all sorts of false trails of association. In a small game it's not that easy.

Anyway.

I feel like day 2 is pretty much squeezed dry.

Pretty much confirms me as Town.

I agree with ffery, let's get this moving to Day 3. Called intent, no claim or other viable suspects, so we're at an impasse until something happens.

VOTE: CheeryDog

Ok so this is LYLO so no votes should be placed without consideration (any vote from town onto town can cause a quicklynch from scum)

FF, what's your say on the current scope of things.

ugh.

My first thought was that it's time for the remaining PR to claim, but second thought is no. If we get the lynch right they can do their thing on night 3.

Doctor/BP, so no claims.

Also FF i was more asking for who you think was scum.