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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:47 pm

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remussaidow wrote: Jdodge, Yes I do know that he's lying, and yes, I do THINK that he is scum, but I want to be awfully damned sure about it when I vote in this situation. This isn't the place where we can say, oops, we lynched the wrong guy. I'm not a proponent of end-game lynch all liars, because occasionally the town does lie.
are you insane? i am claiming a guilty result on you in LYLO, the possibility of me being town and lying doesn't exist here.
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:22 am

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yes, it does. If you felt strongly enough about certain people that you claimed to be cop earlier in the game to protect them, than you'd have to keep up your charade, here, now, in lynch or lose, otherwise your lies would be admitted to, and you'd be a much more apparent scumbag.

Though, since by you're own admission, you being town and lying can't happen, I guess its time to
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:27 am

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The thing is, I don't see how a scum would claim cop on Day 3, because if the real cop counterclaimed, one would be lynched, followed by the other shortly after. There is no way of knowing that a mini theme game does not have a cop.

Why I am having Second Thoughts:

1) Whome? did NOT investigate Xyzzy, and still felt sure he was scum.

2) He happened to investigate ME for some odd reason when I had already hammered two scum... Why not Qman or Remussaidow first?

3) It just happens he didn't get a guilty until the end.


What seems unlikely:

Jdodge was targeted 3 times on Night 1, by Blue Zebra, Whome?, AND Remus.

What seems likely about Remus that could also mean he is scum:

1) He might have killed the Doctor Blue Zebra on Night 3, so that he could kill the cop next. Perhaps he didn't know that Whome? would inspect me on that night.

2) If I was Whome? and WAS scum who claimed cop, in a VERY unlikely instance, btw this is just an example, I would probably fake a no-kill by not submitting a kill, and pretend that someone (in this case, Blue Zebra) protected me.
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:30 am

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now a ranger wrote:
1) Whome? did NOT investigate Xyzzy, and still felt sure he was scum.
and it worked out. We lynched him, without me using an investigation on him, so in effect i got an extra investigation

2) He happened to investigate ME for some odd reason when I had already hammered two scum... Why not Qman or Remussaidow first?
granted i was reaching here. I wondered if you were scum who double bus'd to look town


3) It just happens he didn't get a guilty until the end.

thats just the way it went


What seems unlikely:

Jdodge was targeted 3 times on Night 1, by Blue Zebra, Whome?, AND Remus.

What seems likely about Remus that could also mean he is scum:

1) He might have killed the Doctor Blue Zebra on Night 3, so that he could kill the cop next. Perhaps he didn't know that Whome? would inspect me on that night.

2) If I was Whome? and WAS scum who claimed cop, in a VERY unlikely instance, btw this is just an example, I would probably fake a no-kill by not submitting a kill, and pretend that someone (in this case, Blue Zebra) protected me.
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:30 am

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Also, the possible setup of this game:

3 Mafia
1 Roleblocker
1 Doctor
6 Vanilla Townies probably, as I am a vanilla, and Jdodge probably is too, or maybe JDodge isn't which could change everything. .

and EITHER a one-shot-vig OR a cop

I wonder which one sounds more likely. Hmm.
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:32 am

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Okay. I'm satisfied with Whome's responses to my second thoughts, especially the celerity of it as I crossposted, so I'm probably going to vote Remussaidow, but not without JDodge's consent or opinion.

I am now waiting for JDodge to speak up. =D
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:32 am

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a one-shot vig who went off half cocked on night one - not remus's responsibility at that time i know, but a really bad thing for a one-shot to do. He ain't a vig is the easiest explanation
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:36 am

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Vote: Remus


Confident for now. I just remembered that Whome? once said that he was more sure on Xyzzy than me at the beginning of Day 2, the day after I had hammered Albert Rampage. That makes sense that he investigated me on Night 3, in a way, I suppose.

I'm slightly doubtful about you being soo sure about xyzzy, but I really can't say anything about that, since he did act extremely scummy in the beginning on day 1.

hmm.
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:38 am

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And yes, the possibility he also targeted JDodge, and that Blue Zebra protected him is sort of unlikely IMHO.

This game has been giving me the heebie-jeebies lately, ick.....

I hate these uncomfortable situations.
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:40 am

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With all my ramblings today, Jdodge I can't wait till you share your opinion because I am not experienced like you.

The puzzle with Remus as scum fits a lot more than Whome? as scum, unless Whome? is a complete idiot-scum.
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:42 am

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As in Whome?:

1) Who claimed cop knowing that there might be another, and that might lead to his downfall.

2) That went after his only other scumbuddy and got him lynched on Day 3. Just doesn't add up to scum for me right now.

It just doesn't seem all that possible right now.
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:58 am

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now a ranger wrote:Also, the possible setup of this game:

3 Mafia
1 Roleblocker
1 Doctor
6 Vanilla Townies probably, as I am a vanilla, and Jdodge probably is too, or maybe JDodge isn't which could change everything. .

and EITHER a one-shot-vig OR a cop

I wonder which one sounds more likely. Hmm.
Definitely cop more likely after a while of pondering.


Okay, I don't think I have more time right now, I have to go to the local supermarket to buy some chinese bread! =D
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:07 am

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Geez, am I no longer allowed to sleep?

Good Samaritan, Townie.

I'm on the fence for this one, but
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:43 am

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That's what I was expecting.

All the power role and scum names have 1 word names, and all the vanilla townies have 2 word names. Therefore, Remus is lying somewhere in his claim.

I'm also on the fence, except leaning heavily towards Remussaidow, hence my vote.
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:44 am

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By the way, it is 10:44 PM here in China right now =D

I'm about to go to sleep.
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:49 pm

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Vote Count

Remussaidow 2 (Whome, NaR)
Whome 1 (Remus)

Not Voting: Jdodge

still takes 3 to lynch.

I am setting a deadline for 10AM GMT Monday 18th June.
If no majority is reached by then, No Lynch will occur.

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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:44 am

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Ahh!! I dunno what to say.

Oh yeah, JDodge, I hope you wake up as quickly as possible and say something, even if it disturbs your sleep! :P

The deadline is in approximately 5 hours and 17 minutes.......
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:46 am

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I personally don't know why both of the possible scum haven't posted in nearly 2 days, as well as I, who was on vacation, and Jdodge.

I guess maybe the topics have been exhausted, and it's like Judgment Day, just like the Title of the game!


Jdodge and I are judging who is the guilty one out of Remus and Whome from previous discussion.

Hmm.
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:51 am

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the reason I haven't posted is I have nothing more to add. It's JDodge's move now.
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:52 am

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also when is the deadline? It is the 14th JUne today, but it ain't a monday
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:53 am

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Alright. I think he probably meant the 18th of June then.
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:09 am

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Let's see. It is 8:09 PM here, and I'll go to sleep at 11 PM and wake up at 8 AM, and leave at 4 PM tomorrow, so 11 more hours of possible computer access if I'm at the computer 11 hours =D which is improbable.
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:27 am

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yes sorry. its the 18TH for the deadline :P
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:39 am

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if you are happy with your vote, I wouldn't worry too much NaR, a no lynch isn't the end of the world, a mislynch is. It's up to JDodge now.
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:47 am

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WhoMe, if you are town, and you are lying, I will hunt you down and force you to type a well-thought out comment on why lying about having a powerrole when you are town in a lynch-or-lose situation is a bad idea.

Vote: remus
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