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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:24 pm

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Why am I on think ice Banka?
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:30 pm

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Nero Cain wrote:Why am I on think ice Banka?

Well, I was about to vote ABR, but then you made a typo.

were your fingers twitching much???
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:31 pm

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I'm getting trolled aren't I?
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:33 pm

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Nero Cain wrote:I'm getting trolled aren't I?

It's a 50% possibility
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:38 pm

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Elusive, do you consider yourself physically attractive?
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:41 pm

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Banka: pls stop trolling
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:51 pm

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Hi. My name is Nero Cain and I am your
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friendly IC. Currently there are no SE's so please direct any and all questions to me. I will NEVER lie about game theory and I will answer to the best of my ability. Here our the rules I have to follow. Our mafia wiki is the best thing since ISO. Sidebar: I can no longer play on sites without ISO. To read a players ISO click on the ISO link located in the upper left right after the post number.

ISO stands for isolation. It brings up all of a players posts in that game. While on the subject of abbreviations; be sure to familiarize yourself with these common abbreviations. But back on the topic of the wiki. It is a great source of information but it is NOT a bible. I still encourage the reading of it but there won't be a test on it.

Here are a few tips and/or words of encouragement:

1: This is a game. Do try to have fun but do not (or stop) partake in such activities as:

  • Trolling
    Lurking
    Generally being disruptive
    being rude


There are other players in the game, what may be fun/funny to you may not be fun or funny to the next person.

2. This game is a commitment. If you don't think you'll have time to play or be active kindly replace out. No one will think any less of you and if they do: Fuck em. :lol:

3. DO do the following:

  • play to your wincon
    have fun (yes I know I already said this)
    be active
    listen to Nero Cain
    ask questions*
    try your best**


4. Don't get discouraged. No one on this site picks up the game and is automatically good. Its a learning process.

5. All hail Mith!

*No questions are dumb (except the ones I call dumb) If you don't understand something ask away. Unless you are a robot that's how we learn. Sidebar: we can also learn by reading but SO. MUCH. FUCKING. EFFORT.

**if YOU feel that you tried your best that's all that matters. Who gives a shit what others think?
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:01 pm

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My post to elusive was serious, and you used a bad word like other people have already, so you literally just invalidated yourself. Nice try though.
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:06 pm

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..................................

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So I'm trying to decide if I should ask Banka "how would knowing if elusive considers herself attractive help you find scum?' but my gut is telling me that this is a trolls trap.
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:13 pm

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No worries, I'm certain at least one has been posting in the last 5 pages
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:31 am

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elusive wrote:
kiwieagle wrote:Also, its like people forgot Elusive existed and she just left randomly as well.

All that talk of the self-hammer for nothing.


Good luck guys.


So you refuse to scum hunt? Others have already posted regarding your self-contradictions. Have a strong read on anyone. Town, scum, etc. I believe that there are 3 scum in this setup. SO you may hunt at least 3 people. Ready, set, go....

I do find some people on my wagon opportunistic.

House, you voted me twice. Did you forget your first vote?


The fuck?
So I refuse to scum hunt?
That does not make sense at all. I was just trying to give reasoning to a sudden drop of posting I would have.
I mean does it matter if I catch your scummy ass the day after? I have scum hunted in a single page more than you have all game.



Elusive I will no longer play this little game of yours where you ask me questions and then ignore mine on purpose. I mean I literally posted more questions a few pages back again but fine don't answer those.
Just answer this one.
Do you have a strong read on anyone other than me being scum and acyron being town?

(both which have terrible reasoning. at least I know if I ever play with you while I am scum its going to be piss easy to manipulate you. Just answer all your questions and be nice and I am conftown hahahaha)



Nero Cain wrote:Why do you think I am scum kiwi?

@TT yea.....no.


Okay so heres why I didn't want to vote you.
I really haven't read your push on ABR, only his push on you.
So I am going to go read it right now.
But first.


Nero Cain wrote:ZOMG I in a road to rome game



Yes.


Someone could make a decent case on me pretty easy. But jesus christ the three pushes on me have just been wtf-y.


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kiwieagle wrote:I have other things to do then explain to a new player why getting emotional is a human tell not a scum tell.


Spite.

Anyways, you asked me, no, you fucking told me to site instances of your emotional states. I wasn't doing it to say that you're a scum, I was doing it because you literally fucking told me to.

But your actions, reactions, and mentality here have sealed my conclusion.

UNVOTE: acryon
VOTE: kiwieagle



I mean the little "analysis" you posted is just so weird .

Anyways, you asked me, no, you fucking told me


anger derp

I wasn't doing it to say that you're a scum, I was doing it because you literally fucking told me to.


frustration derp

But your actions, reactions, and mentality here have sealed my conclusion.


vindictive derp


UNVOTE: acryon
VOTE: kiwieagle


revenge derp.




See I am not saying I play perfectly town. Far from it. But the root issue in my mind is that you are trying to punch my face but instead are punching the wall behind me and screaming "CMON DEFEND YOURSELF KIWI!!!".


Damn I got derailed.
Okay back to Nero
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Ok wait what?
Obviously I haven't read your push on ABR because there has been BARELY any push.
You have tunneled on him all game from an INITIAL reasoning of some mechanics bullshit.
I have said this once and I will say it again.
If anyone is voting simply for the tier stuff they are either bad at scum-hunting or dumb.
(Oh look elusive voted me for t2 or at least thats what she claims a dozen pages later.)

T1 will win. Okay?
It was pretty obvious from D1 that T1 would be the option most level-headed people would chose. Those who don't just have a different personality. In my mind, ABR would have voted T3 even if he was scum, town, or 3rd party.


Your other point is

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elusive wrote:Nero, what are you reads on other players

Well lets start with ABR. :)

Albert B. Rampage wrote:You raised some good points on why Nero is scum

Here ABR is using Xombie's "point" to call me scum. I know that town sheep and stuff too but scum also do it. So in a sense you could argue that its null but it always worries me a bit.

Its also suspicious to me 'cause Acryon said p much the same thing in 175

So why was Xombie's "point" better than Acryon's? So I'm a tad worried that he's "sheeping" town to avoid a link with his buddy.

But that said I am also very suspicious of Xombie for his sorta whiteknight of you. Like I know that you won' agree with me that your questions were p useless...but they were.

I am a little worried that House and ABR were scumbuddies cross voting in RVS.

House wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:
I mean there's absolutely zero good reason (for town) to try and get a vig. TBQF, his singlemindlessness is antitown and even if he's town I wouldn't care.


I don't like this. It's like he's posturing for an ABR town flip. =/

UNVOTE:

This worries me a little. Like he's trying to use me to get out of an ABR lynch. It makes a
little
sense if you thinks I'm scum but he was still calling ABR scum. But when I asked if he thought I was scum he was being coy for some stupid reason.

I remember disliking something from kiwi but beyond that I don't really remember anyone else bothering me but at some point I should iso folks. I also realize that I'm kinda "conf biasing" on ABR but that's where I'm at right now.


Look. Yes, you have two null points on ABR.

And heres the issue.

I feel ABR is really hard to catch as scum because of how he plays. (Short posts, tries to join wagons, does not give actual cases making it hard to find fallacies or even defend yourself)

Another thing.
Look at his elusive interaction.
Would some say too risky for scum? Yes.
But he just pulled it off with at most 1 vote from House who has been changing vote every post anyway.
So is it that hard for someone who has played as long as ABR to pull it off as scum? Probably not.
Is Elusive going to fall for it? Yep. She has consistently shown how she lets her emotions dictate how she plays. If I say Fuck Elusive she would consider it a scum tell.

So whats up in the end?
I don't know. I say it depends on what Elusive flips but

elusive wrote:Town is so damn fickle here and sheep-y.



Sadly.


So RIGHT NOW what am I willing to support? (dont badger me and claim contradiction if I vote someone else in two pages)
A lynch on acroyn, elusive, or oziygin.

I give TT the benefit of the doubt because hes new but I have already posted previously why I thought the Ozygin is scummy but that emotional thing just was so incomprehensible (Giving emotion to every one of my sentences? I am going to repeat myself here: With that logic, I can give emotions to every sentence in this game.)
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:33 am

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Also before anyone cries about how I used the word emotional.

There are two inherent differences.
People claim I play emotionally which means I get all hyped up like "Yeah well THIS right here show WHY YOU ARE FUCKING WRONG!"

What I am saying is playing based on emotion which is " he got me angry hes scummy because he doesn't treat me well but that guy is town because we have been bffss since forevaaa !"
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:42 am

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I'm actually bad at scum because I don't lie very well.
Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:05 am

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kiwieagle wrote:
I give TT the benefit of the doubt because hes new but I have already posted previously why I thought the Ozygin is scummy but that emotional thing just was so incomprehensible (Giving emotion to every one of my sentences? I am going to repeat myself here: With that logic, I can give emotions to every sentence in this game.)


Don't put too much stock in his join date. TT can hold his own as scum.

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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:20 am

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@Mod: Requesting replacement


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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:21 am

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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:21 am

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DON'T DO THAT
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:21 am

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The vote is because I would take it there and don't want the replace to have to deal with anymore of that nonsense.
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:22 am

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And if someone hammers or whatever you'll have a scum in hand. That was the strategy, anyway I assume.
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:23 am

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just vote ABR with me
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:24 am

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Maybe I am cold-hearted but I can't see how I caused this.
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:25 am

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Please, you didn't cause this. I look at your posts and roll my eyes.
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:27 am

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elusive wrote:
@Mod: Requesting replacement


Vote elusive


The leading wagon simultaneously self-voting and requesting replacement deserves a mod-kill, IMHO.

That goes far beyond the point of not playing to your own win con & simultaneously screws the poor sap that takes over your slot.
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:29 am

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So then why are you doing it?
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:29 am

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kiwieagle wrote:So then why are you doing it?


You clearly don't know my personality.
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