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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:32 pm
by Brian Skies
Wow, I'm actually a lot higher than I thought I'd be.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:32 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 204, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: In post 202, shortaru wrote: In post 196, Sakura Hana wrote: In post 145, Moment wrote:And so explain to me how that thought (whether it's true or not) leads to the conclusion "I should pair with someone whose alignment I have literally random information regarding"? Assuming you're town, of course.
If he pairs up with me and i scumread him ill just leave the dance. It's not like im forced to live with him all game.
But what if you're wrong?
I don't like suicide bombing, better to leave lynches to groupthink.
Oh my god this one is scum too I seriously have been trying to calm myself.
Like
Surely all the scum can't be present early on, we're missing so many people.
But this is.....
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:33 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
not a fan of Short's general approach, he's got some newbie points but I just..... call it a bad feeling about his posting that I don't think being a newbie absolves him of.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:34 pm
by ChibiBear
In post 697, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm not willing to accept Sakura as conftown because I don't accept anyone as conftown on phase 1 of a game unless it comes straight from the mod. But in my small amount of experience, the 4 times or so times I've seem people have a complete breakdown about being scumread, they've always flipped town so I am inclined to agree to a degree.
i basically never fuck up on strong townreads
Cool, and obviously I trust you but like I said, I don't conftown anyone on phase 1 ever. She is a strong town lean for me.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:36 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
RC, where are you on
Maria-> Cakes
LLD -> Dunn
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:38 pm
by RadiantCowbells
dunn is in my shortlist of DVa partners rn and you don't like my other contenders
maria/cakes is fine as a pairing to me but moreso because i'm not especially sure either are town
think sircakez got a lot of really easy townreads
notably i do think maria is town but i think it will be impossible to convince town to put her in a top 4 pairing
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:39 pm
by DVa
I guess you believe that Maria really thought Fire was dumbtelling with the 4 scum thing?
That post really bothered me ngl
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:40 pm
by Brian Skies
In post 705, RadiantCowbells wrote:notably i do think maria is town but i think it will be impossible to convince town to put her in a top 4 pairing
It's actually not that hard. You just need to stop calling her objectively scummy.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:42 pm
by RadiantCowbells
?
she is objectively scummy
and forcing through reads that aren't consensus makes it easy for scum to convince town to derail from the winning lynch order
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:43 pm
by MariaR
In post 706, DVa wrote:I guess you believe that Maria really thought Fire was dumbtelling with the 4 scum thing?
That post really bothered me ngl
Why does it bother you so much? Everyone was saying firebringer was trolling. Is it that hard to believe that I thought fire really forgot how many scum are in the set up?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:43 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 705, RadiantCowbells wrote:dunn is in my shortlist of DVa partners rn and you don't like my other contenders
maria/cakes is fine as a pairing to me but moreso because i'm not especially sure either are town
think sircakez got a lot of really easy townreads
notably i do think maria is town but i think it will be impossible to convince town to put her in a top 4 pairing
I'll make them see the light. I'm not wavering on Maria town, she's 100% lock for game I've seen this done this it's in the fucking bag.
Trust me here, if you want a good partner for Dva, I think Kokichi looks fucking baller.
Something like...
LLD/Dunn
Maria/Cakez
Dva/Kokichi
and then go...
Karmeleon/Moment
Short/Chibi
Gamma/Fire
Brian/Celestia
Leave out Mala.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:44 pm
by Brian Skies
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:44 pm
by RadiantCowbells
kokichi hasn't done anything to deserve that townread either
aorn i think there's almost no chance I go for a pairing for DVA outside of {gamma/short/kameleon/dunn}
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:45 pm
by Brian Skies
You don't think kokichi's town?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:46 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 712, RadiantCowbells wrote:kokichi hasn't done anything to deserve that townread either
aorn i think there's almost no chance I go for a pairing for DVA outside of {gamma/short/kameleon/dunn}
Kokichi's early posting looks really good in hindsight and it would have been so fucking free for him to do the troll thing and accept the invite and play backlog.
I just think Kokichi is town based on circumstance.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:46 pm
by RadiantCowbells
i think about non-me 9 people in this game are more likely than not town
i'm not going to elect someone to top 4 unless i'm damn sure and i'm closer to damn sure on those 4 than anyone else.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:46 pm
by RadiantCowbells
i don't bring people to top 4 on 'town from circumstance'
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:47 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
I really don't wanna pair outside of Cakez and Dunn, RC. Those are my top male Town reads, and Maria's my top female town read.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:47 pm
by DVa
In post 709, MariaR wrote:Why does it bother you so much? Everyone was saying firebringer was trolling. Is it that hard to believe that I thought fire really forgot how many scum are in the set up?
yeah but trolling implies he knows the count and is acting dumb to provoke a reaction, it's very different from thinking he *actually* doesn't know the scum count in an open game
I know he tends to be way more focused on his personal relationships with people in games than on the actual scumminess of people but that seems pretty disengaged even for him
I don't know him saying he really did forget makes him scum but it certainly doesn't make him town
pedit: guess people are online right now
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:47 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
mmmm
ok but you're looking at 3 people who are inherently scummier than kokichi as potential DVA partners and that's really concerning to me.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:48 pm
by Brian Skies
Actually, my reason for thinking Kokichi was town isn't as good as I thought it was. But I'm gonna go with it anyway.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:48 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
what's your read on cakez?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:49 pm
by Sakura Hana
In post 714, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Kokichi's early posting looks really good in hindsight and it would have been so fucking free for him to do the troll thing and accept the invite and play backlog.
Really? On one hand if he accepted and played backlog the first thing i'd have done would be suiciding, on the other hand it's not like he's in danger of being left out if he didnt accept.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:49 pm
by RadiantCowbells
they're not inherently scummier than kokichi.
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:50 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 722, Sakura Hana wrote: In post 714, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Kokichi's early posting looks really good in hindsight and it would have been so fucking free for him to do the troll thing and accept the invite and play backlog.
Really? On one hand if he accepted and played backlog the first thing i'd have done would be suiciding, on the other hand it's not like he's in danger of being left out if he didnt accept.
You'd have sui'd first thing if he had?
A person who is known for making suboptimal trolly plays as town and scum?
That's an interesting take I didn't expect.