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Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:07 am
by davesaz
In post 697, Carcalilly wrote:I am terrified of the possibility of hectic!scum because there's no way I'd be convinced besides the use of PRs.
If Hectic is scum, this type of thought is the reason that posting that way would work.
I'm not scumreading Hectic yet, just pointing out just cause for being skeptical of the "ooh that's gotta be town because who would do that as scum" mentality.
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:08 am
by Elements
UNVOTE:
JJD's change has improved my view of them. I'm still not going to support their dictatorship though.
VOTE: roster
Stop hiding and come out to play roster.
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:08 am
by Elements
In post 700, davesaz wrote:"ooh that's gotta be town because who would do that as scum" mentality.
AKA WIFOM
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:10 am
by Carcalilly
That was low-key a check request. Although I have doubts that we have a cop.
If we do then mafia might also have a pr.
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:11 am
by Carcalilly
was that really necessary
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:12 am
by YOUAREGREAT
In post 692, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:
I do believe that to be the case. And you obviously never played with someone like Wisdom, but that's a whole lot of another bucket.
Seriously though, it's a combination of how they phrase their posts for some and how they react to stuff for everyone. Stuff maybe stuff I said or stuff someone else said. I know how X would react to something. I know Y would see "that thing" as an opportunity to push a mislynch on someone. So, when "that thing" happens and they don't push it, and -in fact- try to find the town motive behind it I figure this isn't their scum game.
I'll give you one example (and one example only) as a means to elaborate on the idea: profii asked me if I had asked him something to convey that I was town )this happened after IO posted my list, I know, but it's a good example, and it also confirmed my read on him). The question he was referring to was me asking if he had a personal PT. He was the Cop in that game (in which I was the mod), and he thought I was crumbing Cop. And
although I am a Cop
I told him that wasn't my intention. For profii to think that was a crumb is NAI, but for him to ask the way he did rather than just keep silent and deal with me at night is town indicative.
Also, many players (you included) keep referring to my "scum pool list" as such, when I clearly said I had no reason to TR them yet it didn't mean I FoS them all. I dunno why people like to be selective in their comprehension of what's been typed. Most people read something and it translates into something else in their minds and then they keep assuming that's the truth.
Take a look at my recent back & forth with Hopkirk. I say I have a TOWN LEAN on Hectic and he wastes like 2 pages arguing I had a scum lean on the guy. That's too stupid to be pushed as scum indicative of Hopkirk, because he was quoting my post every single time, so it's clearly he had a brain fart and decided what he misread was the truth. In his mind he believed I has a scum lean on Hectic despite the test he was quoting said otherwise.
SO, all I ask is for people to read what I say
as it is
. Don't assume any hidden meanings (especially if you have no experience with me). If I say I am a Cop (I just did a few lines above) just assume that I am claiming a Cop of some sorts, and act upon it.
okay, you've convinced me. this is a good post. i don't scumread you anymore.
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:13 am
by Elements
I like pointing it out. For some reason people take a stronger stance when it's called out
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:23 am
by profii
In post 703, Carcalilly wrote:That was low-key a check request. Although I have doubts that we have a cop.
If we do then mafia might also have a pr.
21 players and you are thinking scum might not have any PRs?(!)
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:26 am
by Carcalilly
Doesn't large balance do with either prs or more scum?
I'm not talking about lousy things like godfather or rolecop though.
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:27 am
by Carcalilly
What's the standard ratio
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:28 am
by davesaz
In post 706, Elements wrote:
I like pointing it out. For some reason people take a stronger stance when it's called out
Exactly what do you think you're pointing out?
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:28 am
by Judge Joseph Dredd
In post 703, Carcalilly wrote:That was low-key a check request. Although I have doubts that we have a cop.
If we do then mafia might also have a pr.
Carca; it's a 21 players game. You didn't think this was a Large mountainous, did you??
And I have claimed Cop, so I want you to concentrate on it.. make sure everyone sees it. Then if scum have a RB then should target me. If they have a Tracker, they should track me. If they have neither, they should outright shoot me. And if Rick Dalton just as much as comments on this, I'm going to be all over him.
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:33 am
by Elements
In post 708, Carcalilly wrote:Doesn't large balance do with either prs or more scum?
I'm not talking about lousy things like godfather or rolecop though.
Are we talking about setup now?
I was thinking something like 4 mafs - 2 or 3 power roles maybe rolecop and roleblocker maybe an x shot strongman, an SK or other anti-town third party, 3 -5 town power roles based on strength - 1 or 2 investigative roles (watcher and tracker would be a fun combo) maybe a protective role like doc or bg, possibly 2 or 3 masons. With 3 though, I'd expect one to be mafia for funness.
So maybe something like:
1/2 invest, 1 protective, 1/2 utility - Town
1 invest, 1/2 utility - Mafia
Third party - maybe bulletproof of some description
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:33 am
by Elements
In post 710, davesaz wrote: In post 706, Elements wrote:
I like pointing it out. For some reason people take a stronger stance when it's called out
Exactly what do you think you're pointing out?
It's more putting a label on it then pointing it out.
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:35 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 675, davesaz wrote:
Truthfully, I don't remember if I have
in full
. It's quite likely that things have changed since, if I have.
Okay, because the rules say the
only
allowed third party in normals is a Serial Killer. And SKs aren't allowed in Mini + Micro Normals following implosion's renovation of the normal rules
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:35 am
by davesaz
Preferably not. I like to focus on play thanks.
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:36 am
by davesaz
What are you putting the label on?
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:37 am
by davesaz
In post 714, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 675, davesaz wrote:
Truthfully, I don't remember if I have
in full
. It's quite likely that things have changed since, if I have.
Okay, because the rules say the
only
allowed third party in normals is a Serial Killer. And SKs aren't allowed in Mini + Micro Normals following implosion's renovation of the normal rules
Evidently you didn't read my
very next post
.
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:38 am
by Elements
In post 700, davesaz wrote: the "ooh that's gotta be town because who would do that as scum" mentality.
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:44 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 690, Carcalilly wrote:maybe I should ask again because it's even more relevant
how is YAG scum, I legitimately cannot see it
Is it the anime pfp?
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:45 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 692, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:
I do believe that to be the case. And you obviously never played with someone like Wisdom, but that's a whole lot of another bucket.
Seriously though, it's a combination of how they phrase their posts for some and how they react to stuff for everyone. Stuff maybe stuff I said or stuff someone else said. I know how X would react to something. I know Y would see "that thing" as an opportunity to push a mislynch on someone. So, when "that thing" happens and they don't push it, and -in fact- try to find the town motive behind it I figure this isn't their scum game.
I'll give you one example (and one example only) as a means to elaborate on the idea: profii asked me if I had asked him something to convey that I was town )this happened after IO posted my list, I know, but it's a good example, and it also confirmed my read on him). The question he was referring to was me asking if he had a personal PT. He was the Cop in that game (in which I was the mod), and he thought I was crumbing Cop. And
although I am a Cop
I told him that wasn't my intention. For profii to think that was a crumb is NAI, but for him to ask the way he did rather than just keep silent and deal with me at night is town indicative.
Also, many players (you included) keep referring to my "scum pool list" as such, when I clearly said I had no reason to TR them yet it didn't mean I FoS them all. I dunno why people like to be selective in their comprehension of what's been typed. Most people read something and it translates into something else in their minds and then they keep assuming that's the truth.
Take a look at my recent back & forth with Hopkirk. I say I have a TOWN LEAN on Hectic and he wastes like 2 pages arguing I had a scum lean on the guy. That's too stupid to be pushed as scum indicative of Hopkirk, because he was quoting my post every single time, so it's clearly he had a brain fart and decided what he misread was the truth. In his mind he believed I has a scum lean on Hectic despite the test he was quoting said otherwise.
SO, all I ask is for people to read what I say
as it is
. Don't assume any hidden meanings (especially if you have no experience with me). If I say I am a Cop (I just did a few lines above) just assume that I am claiming a Cop of some sorts, and act upon it.
I don't buy your claim pal
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:48 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 703, Carcalilly wrote:That was low-key a check request. Although I have doubts that we have a cop.
If we do then mafia might also have a pr.
Interesting logic talk about this?
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:51 am
by Elements
I think the more pertinent question is, does anyone?
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:51 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 717, davesaz wrote: In post 714, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 675, davesaz wrote:
Truthfully, I don't remember if I have
in full
. It's quite likely that things have changed since, if I have.
Okay, because the rules say the
only
allowed third party in normals is a Serial Killer. And SKs aren't allowed in Mini + Micro Normals following implosion's renovation of the normal rules
Evidently you didn't read my
very next post
.
It's also to everyone else because I think there are some players who genuinely don't know
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:52 am
by Gamma Emerald
Also I might vote roster