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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:02 pm
by Celestial Coordinates
I find it very difficult that you believe that this is a pro-town decision unless you're uncertain of your read on me.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:03 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 695, Oversoul wrote:Something_Smart not having made a vote for someone is incredibly weird given my playing history with him. I would have expected him to self-nom. Surprised that he did not.
I considered it, but see .

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:04 pm
by Shoshin
In post 698, Gay Dance Gone Wrong wrote:Then why did you vote him in the first place?
I hadn't thought through how the mechanic worked. I was thinking in terms of who scum would choose to kill, as if trying to predict a doctor, instead of who is most valuable to the town after D1, which is the more relevant issue.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:05 pm
by Shoshin
In post 699, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 697, Shoshin wrote:I'm not into the idea of sacrificing myself for your sake.

You've been framing this in terms of odds, which I was too at first, but I think the more relevant question is who town would rather have alive after D1. I think my D2 reads are not worse than yours, on average, and I think I'm more likely to win for town at LYLO than you. You're welcome to disagree, as I'm sure you will.
I don't think this idea that my reads are worse D2 onwards is based in reality except in terms of late game replacements.
If anything, my D2 lynches are my best and I don't have a large enough sample size for later than that.
You're the one who told me your reads at LYLO weren't great, and that your reads were best on D1. You told me that.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:06 pm
by Celestial Coordinates
In post 702, Shoshin wrote:I hadn't thought through how the mechanic worked. I was thinking in terms of who scum would choose to kill, as if trying to predict a doctor, instead of who is most valuable to the town after D1, which is the more relevant issue.
I'm very skeptical of you believing that you ever get the baton over me unless it's what scum want.
You're the one who told me your reads at LYLO weren't great, and that your reads were best on D1. You told me that.
Ok, and Nadal's not that great on grass courts and his play is the best on clay courts.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:06 pm
by Shoshin
I'll admit there's a selfish part to voting myself -- I want to stay alive so that I can keep playing the game. It's probably my last one for the next couple years.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:06 pm
by Shoshin
In post 704, Celestial Coordinates wrote:I'm very skeptical of you believing that you ever get the baton over me unless it's what scum want.
I didn't think I'd get it either, but then a few people said they'd vote for me, so now I'm going to try.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:07 pm
by Celestial Coordinates
In post 706, Shoshin wrote:I didn't think I'd get it either, but then a few people said they'd vote for me, so now I'm going to try.
Your response to this shouldn't be to see it as an opportunity but to think critically about why scum want you to have the baton pass today since it's reasonably obvious that there's at least 4 town on my wagon.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:08 pm
by Dannflor
In post 695, Oversoul wrote:Something_Smart not having made a vote for someone is incredibly weird given my playing history with him. I would have expected him to self-nom. Surprised that he did not.
On the contrary, I expect him to go quite a while without deciding on a vote for anyone, if he does so at all.

I'll get to gameplay later.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:08 pm
by Shoshin
In post 707, Celestial Coordinates wrote:Your response to this shouldn't be to see it as an opportunity but to think critically about why scum want you to have the baton pass today since it's reasonably obvious that there's at least 4 town on my wagon.
I think it's reasonably obvious that the people who want me to have the baton are also town.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:09 pm
by Celestial Coordinates
In post 709, Shoshin wrote:I think it's reasonably obvious that the people who want me to have the baton are also town.
Sorry, you mean Ceph?

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:10 pm
by Shoshin
In post 710, Celestial Coordinates wrote:
In post 709, Shoshin wrote:I think it's reasonably obvious that the people who want me to have the baton are also town.
Sorry, you mean Ceph?
Ceph, Oh, Yuk, Dann, among others who voted me at some point.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:10 pm
by Dannflor
I don't think Shoshin is the worst choice for the baton, but Celestial would be my first choice currently.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:10 pm
by Celestial Coordinates
I feel like I should out at this point

that I am

EXPLICITLY not townreading Shoshin

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:10 pm
by Shoshin
I think even Gay Dance voted me at some point.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:11 pm
by Gay Dance Gone Wrong
Only half of me I think.
This half really doesn't think you'll die over nacho.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:11 pm
by Oversoul
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

here we go

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:11 pm
by Celestial Coordinates
Anyway I'm heading out later.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:12 pm
by Oh
RC, if you're townreading Shoshin, why are you opposing her getting the baton?

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:12 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 708, Dannflor wrote:On the contrary, I expect him to go quite a while without deciding on a vote for anyone, if he does so at all.
This is probably what Oversoul is thinking of.

The situations are way different though.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:13 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 718, Oh wrote:RC, if you're townreading Shoshin, why are you opposing her getting the baton?
._.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:13 pm
by Celestial Coordinates
In post 718, Oh wrote:RC, if you're townreading Shoshin, why are you opposing her getting the baton?
I'm not, that's the thing. :?

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:13 pm
by Gay Dance Gone Wrong
I'm not RC but I can answer 718.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:13 pm
by Gay Dance Gone Wrong
All dem PEdits

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:13 pm
by Oh
In post 720, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 718, Oh wrote:RC, if you're townreading Shoshin, why are you opposing her getting the baton?
._.
joke post pls don't kill me
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