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However, Menal/Datisi are not a team because they get busted the second their push flips town.

SL of alimdia:
97 is a bad take I'm sorry Icon but you should know this lul
119 is completely NAI imo

586 policy vote on emps for spammy catchup and careless voting
610:

In post 610, alimdia wrote:Asked for unvote because the other 2 votes were RVS and its way past that now, plus I'd rather have them unvote for proper analysis later on when needed.

Asking for unvotes of the RVS vote for (I'm assuming) later proper VCA, but is keeping the vote on emps due to... policy?

Which makes me think the whole "unvote your RVS we're past that" was made as busywork

discuss

In post 696, Iconeum wrote:The powerwolfing is related to your entire tag-team approach push, not that post in particular. Can you see what I mean?

Err
not sure I see it chief

In post 249, Datisi wrote:

In post 245, Menalque wrote:If you think this is over the top you have no idea

I haven’t even posted from my laptop yet

WE'RE DOUBLING 1942 BOYS STRAP IN

What is AvP
what is CivMaf

this could very well be town!Datisi to the core

In post 703, Iconeum wrote:this could very well be town!Datisi to the core

I mean I think I'm so out of my scum range by now it's pathetic

but what can you do

In post 693, Datisi wrote:

In post 690, Iconeum wrote:Alimdia has a towny mindset and is the first to join the townbloc.

Posts like 97, 104, 119 (defusing the situation) are very good takes.

I enjoy the 616 obv callout of scum!Dat and scum!Menal powerwolfing the crap out of this early game, but that's a highly unlikely scenario. Knowing both of these players, I think they would take it a lot slower. That doesn't take away I think Menal could be scum here (just not together with Dat), for pushing something in REALLLY terrible faith

Wow, we have completely opposite reads there

also how is 616 calling our Dats/Mena powerwolfing? It's asking Wimpy a question? (correct me if I'm wrong here btw)

So you SR me?
And yes my 616 is asking Wimpy the question.

SLing yes

and okay I'm waiting for Icon to respond wrt that since I'm not yet sure what he meant

In post 701, Datisi wrote:SL of alimdia:
97 is a bad take I'm sorry Icon but you should know this lul
119 is completely NAI imo

586 policy vote on emps for spammy catchup and careless voting
610:

In post 610, alimdia wrote:Asked for unvote because the other 2 votes were RVS and its way past that now, plus I'd rather have them unvote for proper analysis later on when needed.

Asking for unvotes of the RVS vote for (I'm assuming) later proper VCA, but is keeping the vote on emps due to... policy?

Which makes me think the whole "unvote your RVS we're past that" was made as busywork

discuss

it's not a bad take. it's just not.
Trying to + the gamestate is not NAI, it's +town. Scum benefit from a bad gamestate. Town doesn't.

In post 704, Datisi wrote:

In post 703, Iconeum wrote:this could very well be town!Datisi to the core

I mean I think I'm so out of my scum range by now it's pathetic

but what can you do

i'm fairly sure you see what I am talking about wrt Menal

616 was alimdia thinking about a scumteam of Datisi+Menal, which would be a powerwolf team as per game right now. I don't think you are however.

In post 707, Iconeum wrote:it's not a bad take. it's just not.
Trying to + the gamestate is not NAI, it's +town. Scum benefit from a bad gamestate. Town doesn't.

agree to disagree I guess?
how is that + the gamestate? It wasn't asking us to calm down, it wasn't defusing the situation, it was just "okay I'mma head out"
i mean it's a plus if you see it as "not adding oil to the fire" but like it's a v weak plus

In post 329, Datisi wrote:Wimpy's reasons of voting me:
1) thought I was violating site rules
2) disliked that i referenced a past game
3) thought referencing a past game is scummy

Literally 66.67% of your reasons to vote me were

Policy

Pedit: i still don't see a single place where he lied
But as said i will go over it again once I get some sleep

For now I'm tackling the simpler stuff

I've seen a whole lot worse reasons for an early vote then this. I don't know why Wimpy is scum because of this?

In post 710, Datisi wrote:i mean it's a plus if you see it as "not adding oil to the fire" but like it's a v weak plus

scum literally wouldn't bother to post it like that

it would be scary if our reads matched

your take on my menal read?

In post 709, Iconeum wrote:616 was alimdia thinking about a scumteam of Datisi+Menal, which would be a powerwolf team as per game right now. I don't think you are however.

Err, I see it as "hey wimpy these are your two SRs you think they're a team?"
but alimdia has mentioned that team elsewhere so
I still kinda see this as null?

like it's not that hot of a take to go "lul dats and mena could be powerwolfing the shit out of this game probs not"

In post 701, Datisi wrote:SL of alimdia:
97 is a bad take I'm sorry Icon but you should know this lul
119 is completely NAI imo

586 policy vote on emps for spammy catchup and careless voting
610:

In post 610, alimdia wrote:Asked for unvote because the other 2 votes were RVS and its way past that now, plus I'd rather have them unvote for proper analysis later on when needed.

Asking for unvotes of the RVS vote for (I'm assuming) later proper VCA, but is keeping the vote on emps due to... policy?

Which makes me think the whole "unvote your RVS we're past that" was made as busywork

discuss

Btw what's SL?

To be fair when I first voted him I was just really annoyed at how he was creating more fluff posts. Because by replying page by page rather than replying after reading everything - (FYI you can take notes as you read, then change them as you keep reading as people contradict/take back earlier statements), THAT is busywork. If you ISO emps you can see more than half his posts are pointless. I could see scum doing that to muddy the waters further. I'm aware that Datisi, Mena and Wimpy also have lots of fluff posts and/or statements repeated in different ways, at least they are in the middle of the conversation 'live' when doing it. Imagine if everyone fucking does it as well.. 60 pages...

In conclusion, it wasn't 100% a policy vote, but I felt like I scum-read emps a bit.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I don't know why I unvoted , it was prob cos there were 2 other random votes on there

In post 711, Iconeum wrote:

In post 329, Datisi wrote:Wimpy's reasons of voting me:
1) thought I was violating site rules
2) disliked that i referenced a past game
3) thought referencing a past game is scummy

Literally 66.67% of your reasons to vote me were

Policy

Pedit: i still don't see a single place where he lied
But as said i will go over it again once I get some sleep

For now I'm tackling the simpler stuff

I've seen a whole lot worse reasons for an early vote then this. I don't know why Wimpy is scum because of this?

policy vote in RVS while annoying as shit is NAI yes

but I think there was a post where he was saying it wasn't just policy or something?

I literally think Town!Wimpy has been forced into a corner by Menal, who used a semi-good early case but then just dicked Wimpy into this.

You can just reread Menal and see for yourself just how much of a [REDACTED BY ICONEUM] he's been and how he handled his scumread.

In post 712, Iconeum wrote:

In post 710, Datisi wrote:i mean it's a plus if you see it as "not adding oil to the fire" but like it's a v weak plus

scum literally wouldn't bother to post it like that

it would be scary if our reads matched

your take on my menal read?

i disagree because I still think it's a v easy thing to post but okay

I know right last time that happened one of us was scum

and no i don't think I do (if you're SRing him)

In post 124, Wimpy wrote:

In post 111, Datisi wrote:Wimpy are you blind

Also on this note I’ll log off. I have a feeling things will get more hostile than this and I do not want more hostility

In post 125, Datisi wrote:Me: shows wimpy contradicting himself in 120
Wimpy: aight imma head out

In post 127, Menalque wrote:

In post 119, alimdia wrote:I'm actually just gonna step back and let the other people chime in with their thoughts before this becomes a 10 page pool of fluff and people don't bother reading half of it.

In post 124, Wimpy wrote:

In post 111, Datisi wrote:Wimpy are you blind

Also on this note I’ll log off. I have a feeling things will get more hostile than this and I do not want more hostility

Interesting

I did try and defuse this situation because I literally saw this happening before. And then as you can see, Mena just basically 'hooked' Wimpy back in for another 2 hours of posting.

In post 715, Datisi wrote:but I think there was a post where he was saying it wasn't just policy or something?

i've read it, and I think there was enough reason for a push on Wimpy to begin with. That's not what i'm fighting. It's how Menal went about it being a complete [REDACTED BY ICONEUM].

Want me to put everytying into a spoiler so you can see?

I agree with Alim here. Menal intenionally created this bad gamestate

I've already dismissed the power-wolfing team by the way.

In post 714, alimdia wrote:Btw what's SL?

To be fair when I first voted him I was just really annoyed at how he was creating more fluff posts. Because by replying page by page rather than replying after reading everything - (FYI you can take notes as you read, then change them as you keep reading as people contradict/take back earlier statements), THAT is busywork. If you ISO emps you can see more than half his posts are pointless. I could see scum doing that to muddy the waters further. I'm aware that Datisi, Mena and Wimpy also have lots of fluff posts and/or statements repeated in different ways, at least they are in the middle of the conversation 'live' when doing it. Imagine if everyone fucking does it as well.. 60 pages...

In conclusion, it wasn't 100% a policy vote, but I felt like I scum-read emps a bit.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I don't know why I unvoted , it was prob cos there were 2 other random votes on there

Scumlean

Eh I agree it clogs the thread a bit but I know it's emps' style to post like that and I'm really not a fan of votes like that
+ last time I've seen anyone vote anyone else for doing cases/catchups like that was when I was scum and I was desperately trying to justify a bullshit vote on a player who nailed my partner (hi Mena remember that)

NOT saying you're doing that now it just reminded me

also 60 pages is like
nothing

In post 718, alimdia wrote:I did try and defuse this situation because I literally saw this happening before. And then as you can see, Mena just basically 'hooked' Wimpy back in for another 2 hours of posting.

Eh, I don't see it

In post 721, alimdia wrote:I've already dismissed the power-wolfing team by the way.

I know you have, it was a response to sth Icon posted about it

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Menal has officially lost ALL of the credit he had with me. How the fuck is this guy town? And if Menal his town he should feel pretty fucking bad about himself wtf is this even

has the mod stepped in yet?