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In post 619, Evenstar wrote:aight pops can be town

Are you strong on this after just one post which was... not entirely towny (not scummy either, but certainly not what i would call obvtown), coming from whom you know has very high experience and skill levels?

If so, why? I mean, what specifically striked you as a strong town point in his post?

In post 624, TemporalLich wrote:if you're not committed you're trying to stall out D1, therefore Evenstar is scum

VOTE: Evenstar, even if hammer

Are jesters a thing in this setup? Because TL is crossing the line where i wouldn't lynch him out of making too little sense with his posts, and you know it's effing hard to cross that line for me.

In post 633, TemporalLich wrote:okay at least you're making an attempt to not stall out the game Evenstar...

In post 635, Evenstar wrote:

In post 633, TemporalLich wrote:okay at least you're making an attempt to not stall out the game Evenstar...

Hastiest backtrack in all of mafia history, folks.

...without unvoting, no less.
I mean... wut?

@TL, can you post a serious readlist please? I need to assess whether you're still in the testing phase to form useful reads and you're acting nonsensical with a purpose in mind or if you are just trying to look busy

I'm the best!

In post 703, Severa wrote:I'm the best!

Did you get 3rd daytime ability?

Like I'd lose??!?

In post 625, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 592, Kerset wrote:

In post 578, Severa wrote:townreading

Severa
Bitmap
Sujimichi
Alchemist21
Gamma emerald maybe

That's almost my scumread list. Could you remove bitmap?

Why is removing Bitmap all you ask for when your reads are so polar?

Because I town read him. It would be polar without him.

Also feel free to keep calling me he, just don't call me RC.

@everyone, how are you reading Farkran?

In post 692, Bitmap wrote:idk why Evenstar has me as a scum read but they aren't really the pinnacle of towniness either so whatevs

Pops vote you and promised reads about you but gave only one.

Yall talk too much Im trying to sleep.

Where is Shiro Drew?

Catchup tonight hopefully

In post 666, popsofctown wrote:

Nah Farkran is wrong he's the best shot on that list. Energy is almost as important to the town as intelligence. Not that Farkran lacks that either.

"shot" is an ambiguous word to use in this context was that on purpose? I'm not yet confident enough in my knowledge of better players to act as an enforced IC though. I think you should have been on that list if we make a pure speculation on reading abilities and charisma - not that i would "abdicate" in favor to anyone though, i will keep doing my thing regardless of my position as leader or lack thereof. Also i'm not sold on you being town yet. I'd currently place you as null-nullscum + would not lynch d1. I like some of your reads, significantly disagree on others.

In post 666, popsofctown wrote:

In post 453, Evenstar wrote:Does town you care about my wasting my time casing you when I could be doing better and more productive things?

Evenstar is climbing up to Chemist tier, it's a shame I can't ship them.

Speaking of which, i'm not a huge fan of town!Evenstar right now. I'm going to post an updated readlist after i finish with the catchup replies because i feel like my previous one was off a significant bit.

In post 666, popsofctown wrote:

In post 479, Evenstar wrote:

In post 478, Gamma Emerald wrote:You know what that’s reason enough to throw out my suspicions of Severa

I don't buy this is a real thought.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

I don't buy this as a real thought

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Really though... I've used a backdoor to sneak out of a push that wasn't working out well to me, very recently, and I was doing it as scum.

On the other hand, i like the wagon going on gamma. He has fallen from my grace.

In post 666, popsofctown wrote:

In post 548, Kerset wrote:If you claim investigation role then people won't lynch you. I think that could be his motive. If we have to choose between lynching mediocre role and role cop, we will never choose role cop bc we want to see information that he provides.

Kerset in site meta here a U-pick game generally has about two thirds of the town players as something stronger than rolecop. And also has the scum slightly more likely than the town to receive the ability rolecop. So his claim is similar to claiming VT, it incentivizes us to lynch him. I would be advocating lynching the slot to avoid outing more roles and avoid lynching more highly useful town power if his posting didn't lean towny to me.

I didn't see it from this POV, and if i was a spectator i'd trust your experience over mine. However, it does not really match my own info and what i got from other people claims... that being said, i just realized that one of such claims was salamence (who also said he didn't pick a blast) and the other was gamma's (whom i'm not trusting anymore). I feel i am contradicting myself here and i need to re-evaluate what i have been thinking of salamence, as my strong read on him was mostly based on game mechanics. His tone and content are still kinda towny though.

In post 666, popsofctown wrote:

In post 549, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 538, Evenstar wrote:VOTE: Alchemist21

More content please.

If you want more from me then talking to me is the way to do it, not voting someone you just put in your Townreads.

This is Bad. You have an obligation to this game independent of what Evenstar does with her vote, and you should be able to see the town incentive to do what she's doing with her vote.
If it seems remarkable it might be because other people have seen you be underwhelming as town, you were underwhelming in StarCraft and flipped green. That's the only difference between Evenstar's post and my silence.
I can't remember anything you've done this game besides sheep a fake parity cop claim, just like I can't remember anything you did in SC except be a gunsmith claim.
She said "please", so don't be rude to her playing to her wincon when she's made you're not playing to it with her, unless want to claim scum.

Not sure if scum!alchemist would answer like that, even if i agree with the basis of reasoning. I'd think scum!alchemist would wave at, or produce content in response to that.

Fark gave some useful thoughts and wasn't afraid to stand by them. His early bait was NAI. I am mostly concerned about his knowledge. He seems to know more about roles then others. Like he would know mechanics of his partners.

In post 708, Severa wrote:@everyone, how are you reading Farkran?

VOTE: Popsofctown

Why not lynch D1?

Evenstar is really punished for revealing her cards.

Pops why did you call Gamma out for his 180 on me but not Evenstar

In post 712, Kerset wrote:Fark gave some useful thoughts and wasn't afraid to stand by them. His early bait was NAI. I am mostly concerned about his knowledge. He seems to know more about roles then others. Like he would know mechanics of his partners.

This is what i've been townreading salamence and bitmap off of - like, they don't seem to know anything about game mechanics. Good post from you, but i only know my role, which is actually more dangerous than it is useful. I would see my role more fitting with scum or 3rd party, which is what made me believe crappy roleclaims coming from town in the first place as well as doubting salamence's rolecop fullclaim.

Still did you study other Upick games? I don't think that you played one.

Updated readlist



Severa
Salamence
Alchemist
Bitmap
suji


pops
V&M
Chemist


Evenstar
Gamma
TL

Kerset is the only read i'm still confident of rn, and it's a high townread. I don't feel as confident about bitmap as i was before, would never lynch there though. Reconsidered alchemist after his exchange with gamma. Reconsidered suji. Evenstar seems to be forcing her town meta upon herself, i find her posts to be overly self-aware compared to what i know her for. I don't like V&M lurking. I also don't like chemist disappearing like that.

In post 717, Kerset wrote:Still did you study other Upick games? I don't think that you played one.

No, this is my first theme game. I probably need to take a look at least at the old magia role cards, which i planned to be doing today.

Severa for over half of this game you are only talking about yourself. The other half was fake claiming. Are those the quality reads? Here you ask other players to give you reads but you don't post them, aside of blank T/S list.

Bitmap
Salamen
Evenstar
Farkran
Gamma
Pops
Chemist
V&M
Suji
TL
Alchemist
Severa

In post 537, Evenstar wrote:Hmmmm.

TOWN

Kerset
Farkran
Salamence
Gamma
Alchemist
Chemist
- DEAD NULL -
Severa
Venus & Mars
Pops
Sujimichi
Bitmap
TL

SCUM

p. meh readslist but w/e it's d1

In post 654, Evenstar wrote:

TOWN

Kerset
Pops
Alchemist
TL
Farkran
Severa

- DEAD NULL -

Gamma
Salamence
Sujimichi
Chemist
Venus & Mars
Bitmap

SCUM

doot dee doot dee deedle dee doot dee doot dee doot dee dee dee

still p. garbage, but improving. Venus & Mars not having checked in is getting to be annoying. can't wait for D2 so Severa will be dead and I can sheep her reads without fear.

how did I drop so far in 2.5 hours

In post 716, Farkran wrote:

In post 712, Kerset wrote:Fark gave some useful thoughts and wasn't afraid to stand by them. His early bait was NAI. I am mostly concerned about his knowledge. He seems to know more about roles then others. Like he would know mechanics of his partners.

This is what i've been townreading salamence and bitmap off of - like, they don't seem to know anything about game mechanics. Good post from you, but i only know my role, which is actually more dangerous than it is useful. I would see my role more fitting with scum or 3rd party, which is what made me believe crappy roleclaims coming from town in the first place as well as doubting salamence's rolecop fullclaim.

In post 718, Farkran wrote:Updated readlist

TOWN

Kerset

Severa
Salamence
Alchemist
Bitmap
suji

NULL

pops
V&M
Chemist

SCUM

Evenstar
Gamma
TL

Kerset is the only read i'm still confident of rn, and it's a high townread. I don't feel as confident about bitmap as i was before, would never lynch there though. Reconsidered alchemist after his exchange with gamma. Reconsidered suji. Evenstar seems to be forcing her town meta upon herself, i find her posts to be overly self-aware compared to what i know her for. I don't like V&M lurking. I also don't like chemist disappearing like that.

This reads like a pocket

VOTE: Farkran

In post 680, Bitmap wrote:

In post 537, Evenstar wrote:Hmmmm.

TOWN

Kerset
Farkran
Salamence
Gamma
Alchemist
Chemist
- DEAD NULL -
Severa
Venus & Mars
Pops
Sujimichi
Bitmap
TL

SCUM

p. meh readslist but w/e it's d1

Why is Severa in the null pile when you had her as a scum read?

She is.

Apparently multiple people cannot interpret this readlist style, so I'll bother clarifying:


Kerset
Farkran
Salamence
Gamma
Alchemist
Chemist
- DEAD NULL, THE MIDWAY POINT -
Severa
Venus & Mars
Pops
Sujimichi
Bitmap
TL


Ranked stack of all players by towniness. Severa is just south of null.