Mini 2127 - Fairly Special [Game Over]

[Titus]

Pisskop, why didn't you or your associate claim it? Or is ascetic hider a joke?

[pisskop]

its a joke

[alimdia]

reading up

@alimdia (and mono): I am the ROLE flavorer. My abilities are only to do with your role name.

I don't know if this is because you forgot something or because of malicious intent, but this is a blatant lie. I know this because I didn't get flavor for my role name. I got a role PM as would be expected in any game. I received a flavor message the next day brought to my by the role flavorer. This could be mod error in waiting a day, or it could be that you are lying. Which is it?

I back eyescott up in that my role PM and flavour are separate PMs. But eyescott, you say theres a antitown flavour related person and you're spilling people's flavour hints evverywhere?

I still think Titus is the most likely scum slot here, but I don't think she is likely a EP partner. I wouldn't say it's impossible though, no one should completely clear her if EP is scum, but yeah I would give her some credit.

Titus scum read on EP seems forced no matter how I look at it, even if I do have to some degree a scum read on Espresso for the way he handled the adorable wagon. Titus hard scum read on him though came way before that and it lacks any kind of real progression or her weightning possibilities. It's just a mindless replay of "EP scum, EP scum, EP scum" with little to no reason even when I tried to interact with her.

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Mastina is scum. She's either lying that she's intimately familiar with me, or lying that this is my scum game.

FWIW I'm a 1X neighborizer. Since I'm town it's worthless per se, but I thought that I'd save it and at least be able to check if someone later claimed ascetic or hider or something.

Neighborizer sounds useless as both alignements

[alimdia]

Sorry guys I've been demotivated this week

[eyestott]

I back eyescott up in that my role PM and flavour are separate PMs. But eyescott, you say theres a antitown flavour related person and you're spilling people's flavour hints evverywhere?

Eyestott*
:p
I’m saying there’s definitely a role flavour investigative role in the game. I’m theorising that they’re antitown.
And note, I’ve never actually revealed what anyone’s flavour is.

[Egix96]

This is an unsatisfying progression coming from that whole wallcase you made on Adorable.

I can explain it very very very simply.
I only have one vote in the game--one vote. I can only vote one player at a time.

There are three scum in the game

--three, not one. I can only vote one scum player at a time, in spite of there being three of them. I can, and have, been casing on all three, applying pressure to all three, but votes are the strongest form of pressure and I only have one to use between the three of them.

Refusing to budge my vote on one scum, when there are two other scum, is a good way to guarantee that,
1: I am accused, unjustifiably, of tunneling in on a single player,
2: And preventing us from lynching a player who is actually scum, because if I am dividing the votes between the scum player of my choice and the scum player of the rest of the town's choice, then the town is divided between two scum candidates resulting in neither getting lynched at the end of the day.

Thus.

I need to be willing to compromise, be fluid, be willing to switch my votes between those scumreads.

Moving my vote off of them doesn't mean I don't think they're scum--it means that I think someone else who is scum is more likely to be able to be lynched.

So I see, you DO actually think p*kop is scum, and it wasn't just something you said to get a rise out of him... Perhaps if you had made that clear in the first place then the momentum might have been there. Just saying.

Mate if you thought I was saying that to get a rise out of him that's on you, not me, because I made it crystal clear that I was scumreading pisskop for real--the BP slot was always in my POE pool, and then pisskop replaced in and did fuckall of nothing.

Seriously, try an iso of pisskop and see what he's done this game.

Literally nothing.

- Okay, that's a lot easier to understand. I'm just going to presume that (bolded) is an assumption since it's not actually confirmed afaict.

- The problem is that I don't remember him doing much in C9++ or Big Four either, and he was town both times.

(Before pkop complains about me saying this - had he done more, I might not have voted him, either time.)

[Egix96]

"hydra dissonance" is exactly the term I didn't know I needed.

I prefer to think of hydras more like

Ettins

What are those?

[Rabid Schnauzer]

And neither BP nor yourself mentioned this until now...why?
I have a theory about that, and it's identical to this one:

My theory is that he's probably fucking around.

[Egix96]

[...]

FWIW I'm a 1X neighborizer. Since I'm town it's worthless per se, but I thought that I'd save it and at least be able to check if someone later claimed ascetic or hider or something.

This be a scumclaim.

Why do you think this?

Wouldn't scum in RS's shoes claim loyal neighbourizer to later fake a guilty? His plain neighbourizer claim seems more town imo.

In a game like this it's practically a VT claim though.
Also, I'm not actually sure whether the "This" in mastna's post refers to Rabid's post, or pkop's.

[Rabid Schnauzer]

FWIW I'm a 1X neighborizer. Since I'm town it's worthless per se, but I thought that I'd save it and at least be able to check if someone later claimed ascetic or hider or something.

This be a scumclaim.[/quote]
Oh please, I thought you were intimately familiar with me or some such.

Do you recall a game when:
- I was scum
- I didn't do much early D1
- I got run up toward end of D1 (by Skitter IIRC)?

Why don't you tell people what I did in that situation?

I claimed goon cop, and coasted on that all the way to the end.

Scum!rabid doesn't come in saying he has a boring role, then claim neighborizer when run up.

[Rabid Schnauzer]

Also, I'm not actually sure whether the "This" in mastna's post refers to Rabid's post, or pkop's.

Yeah, rereading it I see what you mean.

[gobbledygook]

I’m a duplicater. After targeting me a persons action is doubled

[Titus]

Is it the action they target you with only or any action?

[EspressoPatronum]

[...]

FWIW I'm a 1X neighborizer. Since I'm town it's worthless per se, but I thought that I'd save it and at least be able to check if someone later claimed ascetic or hider or something.

This be a scumclaim.

Why do you think this?

Wouldn't scum in RS's shoes claim loyal neighbourizer to later fake a guilty? His plain neighbourizer claim seems more town imo.

In a game like this it's practically a VT claim though.
Also, I'm not actually sure whether the "This" in mastna's post refers to Rabid's post, or pkop's.

Also, I'm not actually sure whether the "This" in mastna's post refers to Rabid's post, or pkop's.

Yeah, rereading it I see what you mean.

"This" in 689 refers to mastina's post.

As a general rule, I try to respond to people with quotes unless my response can stand by itself in my ISO. It helps readers remember the context of my posts when/if they do an ISO of me later in the game.

[Rabid Schnauzer]

We weren't talking about your this.

[pisskop]

(Before pkop complains about me saying this - had he done more, I might not have voted him, either time.)

yea i should really play the game more.....

i used to enjoy it

[pisskop]

actually that whole slew from mastina about 'needing to be flexible' but then not actually voting reads as setting up lynches to me.

[EspressoPatronum]

We weren't talking about your this.

Ahh, I see. The 'this' in "this be a scumclaim."

I believe mastina is talking about your neighbourizer claim, as her sentence follows immediately after the quote of your claim.

[Rabid Schnauzer]

If it's referring to me, then as noted, she's wrong. That's a crappy fakeclaim. I would claim something more important.

[gobbledygook]

Is it the action they target you with only or any action?

The action they target me with, does not work on scumkill

[gobbledygook]

Pk are we finally town together!!

[EspressoPatronum]

I’m a duplicater. After targeting me a persons action is doubled

Do you mean a 1-shot is doubled to 2-shot, or that an action taken on you can be repeated again in the same night on someone else?

[TemporalLich]

VC 1.17

Rabid Schnauzer (4) - momo, mastina, eyestott, Churros
EspressoPatronum (3) - Rabid Schnauzer, Titus, gobbledygook
Egix96 (3) - Chronos, alimdia, EspressoPatronum
momo (1) - Egix96
mastina (1) - pisskop

Not voting: Sujimichi

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-04-06 07:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

Churros is V/LA during the weekend.

[momo]

Oh please, I thought you were intimately familiar with me or some such.

Do you recall a game when:
- I was scum
- I didn't do much early D1
- I got run up toward end of D1 (by Skitter IIRC)?

Why don't you tell people what I did in that situation?

I claimed goon cop, and coasted on that all the way to the end.

Scum!rabid doesn't come in saying he has a boring role, then claim neighborizer when run up.

It's you saying things like this that makes me believe you're scum. Instead of making a legitimate push on someone or make a case based on your play this game, your town case is based on your meta. You've clearly put a lot of time into thinking about the way you play and trying to avoid a clear pattern to your scum game. Paraphrasing you, in this game you're trying to do everything you wouldn't do as scum, which is exactly what I would expect scum!RS to do here.

[Rabid Schnauzer]

Seems to me that when a case against you is based in whole or in part on meta, then meta is perfectly reasonable to use in defense.