Bingles D1 reads: I had a 5 person PoE pool within 24 hours of posting.
tl;dr:
Not only do I not believe that Gobbles thinks effort is scum indicative from me (I'm pretty sure he's been present for multiple walls about why it's not with exhaustive meta analysis) he has recently seen exclusively the he's scumreading me for as town. Not in one game. In EVERY game we've played together over the past few months. He routinely gives me shit for hard defending scum slots as town in the dead thread, something that most of this game can attest to first hand.
My reads accuracy is a crapshoot. My having reads and pushing them? Not so much. And I don't think gobbles genuinely believes that it is, because town him has never pushed this angle. He's pushed 'Bingles reads are crap so he must be scum', but never 'Bingle having hard reads is scummy' despite all of the games in which I had those hard reads early.
That's 3 of my last 6 completed games. The others: Jigsaw, where I replaced in and immediately had a bunch of hard reads. Fairly Special, where I replaced in and was nightkilled for tunneling scum
before I had caught up on the thread
, and Donnie Brasco where my entire play was catching onto a Maria/Ali interaction and then immediately shouting for everyone to shut up and lynch until we won to prevent Maria from being outed.
Maria's case:
In post 401, MariaR wrote:I want gobble to explain like, anything. His reads feel entirely made up on the spot/meaning to take advantage of the game state. It's a light read that will probably change when he gives me the sit down, but until then I will call him scum. This game had a lot more filler than I was expecting, making it a bit harder to get into it.
Because flash wagons happen a lot and flash defenses do not happen a lot.
but there was literally no case on gobbles scum? the flash wagon didn't have a case attached. It was like everyone just jumped on for 0 reason. Why wouldn't anyone call that out as weird or ask people to explain
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:44 am
by Bingle
warmpuppy has my posts hidden.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:45 am
by Something_Smart
In post 706, skitter30 wrote:what does this even mean? aren't you townreading gobbles?
It means exactly what it says. I don't really care that gobble's wagon reached L-2 quickly, but I do care that a bunch of people immediately stepped in to defend him. I wasn't suggesting that any particular conclusion should be drawn from it.
yeah. But i don't see ur case as the reason anyone jumped on. It was pretty random flash wagon. And I don't think ur points against gobbles are good either
In post 706, skitter30 wrote:what does this even mean? aren't you townreading gobbles?
It means exactly what it says. I don't really care that gobble's wagon reached L-2 quickly, but I do care that a bunch of people immediately stepped in to defend him. I wasn't suggesting that any particular conclusion should be drawn from it.
I'm townleaning him.
ok, why do you think it's noteworthy that multiple people jumped in to defend him?
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:47 am
by Something_Smart
In post 710, Firebringer wrote:but there was literally no case on gobbles scum? the flash wagon didn't have a case attached. It was like everyone just jumped on for 0 reason. Why wouldn't anyone call that out as weird or ask people to explain
I'm not saying it isn't a good thing to do. I'm saying it's unusual.
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:47 am
by Something_Smart
In post 715, skitter30 wrote:ok, why do you think it's noteworthy that multiple people jumped in to defend him?
Because that rarely happens?
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:48 am
by Firebringer
idgi that u don't care that a townlean was flashed to L-2.
ngl, the speed is very unnerving. I'm not sure who would be scum hopping on though, and I definitely still want to hear gobbles talk about why me doing literally the only thing he's seen town me do consistently for months is somehow scum indicative.
I can't remember town!you casing someone as early as you did with Menalque in this game.
yeah. But i don't see ur case as the reason anyone jumped on. It was pretty random flash wagon. And I don't think ur points against gobbles are good either
i literally just said i'm sheeping bingle
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:50 am
by skitter30
ok, and why is something that you think is unlikely to come from town!jingle?
