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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:23 am
by LegoLucy
In post 696, Day wrote:
In post 640, LegoLucy wrote:If we eliminate day

It will be night

!!!!!!
Clannad After Story?
Google says that's an anime. Do they make permanent night?

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:24 am
by Day
I don't like most of Pooky's case but I think this post is actually pretty scummy:
In post 537, Alisae wrote:So I don't like any of {Pooky, Suji, Skitter, Mena}. Maybe like 2 scum in here?
which makes me think I'm either rly woke or wrong.

I can easily see myself being wrong on Suji.
I don't think Pooky and Mena are both town.

I'm vibing with Luca, Day.
Lucy seems townie.
Ydra I think is townie so far but like if she dies it probably helps me ig. Either pooky is right, I'm wrong, and I need to reassess or pooky is just scum.
Fark seems fine so far
Having no room to see both of Pooky and Ydrasse being town doesn't seem genuine. Why can't Pooky be wrong also be town instead of 'just scum'? It feels more like that's what Alisae wants that to be perceived as, as it helps their win con and both of Pooky and Ydrasse are town. Seeing at least 1 scum in Pooky and Menalque is also more of the same kind of thing.

VOTE: Alisae

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:25 am
by Farkran
My problem with the pooky wagon is that it's born of all my townleans and yet i feel there's something wrong sheeping them

Also i think that if he is scum, a couple of the possible remaining partners (mena and skitter) would have already bussed him

Rest of the people are Day (already my sr), luca (tl), ydrasse (neu/tl + see below), legolucy (neu/tl), ss (tl + see below) and suji (neutral, and could make sense with scum!pooky with his progression on ali)

@ydrasse and ss do you think pooky is scum?

@Day do you have an opinion on the pooky situation?

Pedit: well, nvm

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:25 am
by LegoLucy
I like Pooky's reason for his reading of Alisae a lot. I don't think it is only because he is mad at Alisae

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:26 am
by Day
In post 700, LegoLucy wrote:
In post 696, Day wrote:
In post 640, LegoLucy wrote:If we eliminate day

It will be night

!!!!!!
Clannad After Story?
Google says that's an anime. Do they make permanent night?
Night's just a conspiracy. There's a massive screen that hangs over the sky and plays a video of darkness and stars and people don't question it because it's all they've ever known.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:28 am
by Day
I townread Farkran, Norwegian, LegoLucy, Luca for other reasons but it feels like there's a fog over my brain so it probably won't be easy to put it into words right now.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:30 am
by Something_Smart
In post 701, Day wrote:Why can't Pooky be wrong also be town instead of 'just scum'?
You think this occurs to town-Alisae but doesn't occur to scum-Alisae trying to emulate their town thought processes?

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:31 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
town alisae is more likely to think about T/T whereas scum alisae is just looking for mis-elims and pushing a pooky/ydra dichotomy is very pro-scum if P/Y are both town.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:31 am
by Day
It makes it feel like a fake thought process for Alisae not to consider arguably the most likely scenario statistically speaking of both of them being town, and that might be because they
want
to see the situation as having 1 scum in it as it helps their win con.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:34 am
by LegoLucy
In post 704, Day wrote:
In post 700, LegoLucy wrote:
In post 696, Day wrote:
In post 640, LegoLucy wrote:If we eliminate day

It will be night

!!!!!!
Clannad After Story?
Google says that's an anime. Do they make permanent night?
Night's just a conspiracy. There's a massive screen that hangs over the sky and plays a video of darkness and stars and people don't question it because it's all they've ever known.
But then where does snow come from

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:35 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 708, Day wrote:It makes it feel like a fake thought process for Alisae not to consider arguably the most likely scenario statistically speaking of both of them being town, and that might be because they
want
to see the situation as having 1 scum in it as it helps their win con.
You could say that about anyone trying to solve. Just because someone says it’s more likely SvT doesn’t mean they didn’t consider the possibility of TvT.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:36 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 706, Something_Smart wrote:You think this occurs to town-Alisae but doesn't occur to scum-Alisae trying to emulate their town thought processes?

You have a fundamental error here.

Scum!Alisae does not emulate town!alisae's thought process.

Scum!Alisae believes in pushing scum role objectives. The goal for Scum!Alisae is not to blend in, it's to push mis-elims and win.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:37 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 710, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You could say that about anyone trying to solve. Just because someone says it’s more likely SvT doesn’t mean they didn’t consider the possibility of TvT.
where in alisae's posts do you see even any consideration of Ydra/Pooky being TvT

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:37 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Using probability of "but it’s always more likely TvT than SvT" just seems a bit odd to me as an leading argument for why you believe Alisae!scum.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:38 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 707, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:town alisae is more likely to think about T/T whereas scum alisae is just looking for mis-elims
Do you have any examples of this?

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:39 am
by Day
In post 709, LegoLucy wrote:
In post 704, Day wrote:
In post 700, LegoLucy wrote:
In post 696, Day wrote:
In post 640, LegoLucy wrote:If we eliminate day

It will be night

!!!!!!
Clannad After Story?
Google says that's an anime. Do they make permanent night?
Night's just a conspiracy. There's a massive screen that hangs over the sky and plays a video of darkness and stars and people don't question it because it's all they've ever known.
But then where does snow come from
Snow is a marketing tactic designed to hype us up for the holiday season to buy more gifts. It comes from snow machines.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:39 am
by Day
In post 710, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 708, Day wrote:It makes it feel like a fake thought process for Alisae not to consider arguably the most likely scenario statistically speaking of both of them being town, and that might be because they
want
to see the situation as having 1 scum in it as it helps their win con.
You could say that about anyone trying to solve. Just because someone says it’s more likely SvT doesn’t mean they didn’t consider the possibility of TvT.
It looks like they tried to list out the scenarios in that post though, and just took for a fact that either Pooky is right and Ydrasse is scum, or Pooky is scum.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:40 am
by Day
As if the thought of double townies didn't even cross their mind.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:45 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 537, Alisae wrote:Ydra I think is townie so far but like if she dies it probably helps me ig. Either pooky is right, I'm wrong, and I need to reassess or pooky is just scum.
I guess you’re right here, but i don’t think it’s a very strong argument.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:45 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Norwee

do you think there's any possibility

that I'm just town and wrong about someone being scum?

Like isn't that pretty much the default scenario for any town player who's pushing early d1 off no info?

the odds mathematically aren't on our side.

So immediately jumping to a SvT dichotomy when we're mostly just probing and reaction testing at this stage with no info

is super shady...

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:47 am
by NorwegianboyEE
You mean the possibility you are town and wrong about Alisae?

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:48 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I could be wrong about Ali sure.

I could be wrong about lots of stuff.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:52 am
by Farkran
VOTE: pooky

Why are you backpedaling?

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:52 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I wanna hear more from Suji and Menalque.

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:53 am
by Ydrasse
In post 702, Farkran wrote:My problem with the pooky wagon is that it's born of all my townleans and yet i feel there's something wrong sheeping them

Also i think that if he is scum, a couple of the possible remaining partners (mena and skitter) would have already bussed him

Rest of the people are Day (already my sr), luca (tl), ydrasse (neu/tl + see below), legolucy (neu/tl), ss (tl + see below) and suji (neutral, and could make sense with scum!pooky with his progression on ali)

@ydrasse and ss do you think pooky is scum?

@Day do you have an opinion on the pooky situation?

Pedit: well, nvm
i’m at work so i can’t say a lot but my thought process last night was, based off of the.. vibes i guess of their posting pooky was more likely than skitter to be scum if i had to pick one of them but i didn’t actually think either of them were scum just really frustrating because of the push they were making

i haven’t read up though