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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:15 am
by Awesome Pants
Dead Rikimaru wrote:Awesome Pants wrote:Personally, I feel that a double vote giver is way too powerful for the scum to have (they'd target each other every night), so if dahill is scum then he's lying about his role. However, Claus's aknowledgement of the double vote is so critical in my eyes, as if dahill was lieing about his role, and then by my logic scum, it'd mean that Claus was scum too.
I confirm I had a double vote yesterday, therefore I'm inclined to consider Dahill is protown (double vote giver makes little sense as scum).
BUT alignement changes are possible in this game AND Dahill claims to have forgotten to send his choice.
This could mean that actually his role changed and he lost his power and possibly changed alignement.
Let's see if he forgets his action again.
Ah, good point! If at all possible I'd like dahill to target Gorrad or imaginality tonight, if either of those two say they say they have a double vote I'll be very much inclined to believe that he has the double vote role. Is that fair?
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:32 am
by Dead Rikimaru
Awesome Pants wrote:Ah, good point! If at all possible I'd like dahill to target Gorrad or imaginality tonight, if either of those two say they say they have a double vote I'll be very much inclined to believe that he has the double vote role. Is that fair?
It's fine. But the double vote shows at the votecount (as the mod explained to me) so you don't need to believe them to see if they have the power or not, you just need them to actually vote.
I have found something else to discuss before we finish the day:
Next Day a double vote will be very powerful.
I think town as a whole should decide WHO gets the double vote next day.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:35 am
by Gorrad
A few things before we go night:
1. What was given during the role change? A new name? A new title for the role? Any flavor behind it?
2. I'd like to propose that the few players who haven't yet claim at LEAST flavor, if not full. AP I think should just claim flavor, but I'd like to see a role from Ku_F and a fullclaim from Rikumaru.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:48 am
by Lord Gurgi
Good Luck guys. This game moved way too slowly for my liking, but that's the way it goes.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:08 am
by armlx
Gurgi-3 (Gorrad, imaginality, dahill1)
Ku_F- 1 (Gurgi)
Not Voting- 3 (Awesome Pants, Ku_F, Dead Rikimaru)
7 alive, 4 to lynch.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:26 am
by Ku_F
Okay, I'll leave AP alone with his claim. However, if LG isn't scum, I want to hear it immediatly the next day.
However, you're an idiot. The last sentence of post 696 is not helpful at all. Tell me why it's useful and I'll apologize for calling you an idiot.
Also, I was already asked if Dahill1's claim was correct and I told that I had a double vote. From DR's post 698, we already know that he's telling the truth.
I'll leave it here and I'll post more tomorrow in real life.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:05 am
by imaginality
1. What was given during the role change? A new name? A new title for the role? Any flavor behind it?
Just the ability. No new name, I'm still the Ideal Gas Law. Only explanation was that it changed because a player died.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:14 am
by dahill1
i have in mind who im targetting tonight but just a quick question:
do you think i should target anyone at all?
if i am wrong in my choice and choose scum, it's game over pretty much. also, there may be some sort of redirector which could give the votes to scum
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:20 am
by Lord Gurgi
Don't pick target anyone, the town barely gains if town is targeted, the scum win if they get targeted.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:25 am
by imaginality
My two cents: if Gurgi (or whoever we lynch) flips scum, it's worth targeting someone - 1 scum left vs 4 town tomorrow, so even if scum get the double vote it won't help them much - but if we mislynch, it's probably better not to target anyone. With 2 scum v 3 town, a double vote for scum would let them force a no-lynch (assuming it's only 3 to no lynch and 4 to lynch).
(
Mod:
With six players left, would no lynch require 3 votes or 4?)
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:48 am
by Lord Gurgi
Imaginality: What does the town gain from a double voter in this situation?
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:14 pm
by Awesome Pants
Ku_F wrote:However, you're an idiot. The last sentence of post 696 is not helpful at all. Tell me why it's useful and I'll apologize for calling you an idiot.
Because, to me, that seems the most logical way to proceed if Gurgi flips scum. What do you find so idiotic about it?
dahill1 wrote:i have in mind who im targetting tonight but just a quick question:
do you think i should target anyone at all?
if i am wrong in my choice and choose scum, it's game over pretty much. also, there may be some sort of redirector which could give the votes to scum
Yeah Gurgi's probably right on this one in retrospect, there's not much for the town to gain, but there's a hell of a lot for the scum to. I wouldn't target anyone if I were you, but if you do want to and Gurgi flips scum, Gorrad's probably your best pick - he'll be practically confirmed then.
Gorrad wrote:2. I'd like to propose that the few players who haven't yet claim at LEAST flavor, if not full. AP I think should just claim flavor, but I'd like to see a role from Ku_F and a fullclaim from Rikumaru.
If by flavour, you mean rolename, then sure.. I'm the heisenberg uncertainty principle.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:16 pm
by Lord Gurgi
It seems like a foregone conclusion that I'm going to be lynched, can we get on with it, unless you guys want to lynch Ku_F.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:46 pm
by imaginality
Imaginality: What does the town gain from a double voter in this situation?
Confirmation of dahill's ability.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:54 pm
by dahill1
imaginality wrote:Imaginality: What does the town gain from a double voter in this situation?
Confirmation of dahill's ability.
seriously? i've already had multiple confirmations of it..
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:55 pm
by Lord Gurgi
His role is indeed confirmed... His alignment however is not.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:03 pm
by imaginality
His role is indeed confirmed... His alignment however is not.
You think he could be a scum-aligned double-vote granter, when if that was the case he could just grant the double votes to a scum-buddy or (if his role PM disallows that) to whichever townie the scum plan to kill that night?
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:14 pm
by Awesome Pants
Yeah, I very much doubt that a double voter could be scum, but DR brought up a good point in
#698, that it's possible that his role/alignment changed which could explain why he 'forgot' to send in a choice last night. If we could confirm he still had the power it'd be a plus, but I guess it's not totally necessary.
Dahill, did the mod give you any restrictions on your ability?
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:20 pm
by dahill1
okay, i understand your point now if you are skeptical of my role changing
AP: i cannot target myself
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:29 pm
by Gorrad
Gorrad wrote:2. I'd like to propose that the few players who haven't yet claim at LEAST flavor, if not full. AP I think should just claim flavor, but
I'd like to see a role from Ku_F and a fullclaim from Rikumaru.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:15 pm
by Ku_F
To me dahill1 is confirmed.
As for my role, I can't tell.
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:31 am
by Dead Rikimaru
Gorrad wrote:Gorrad wrote:2. I'd like to propose that the few players who haven't yet claim at LEAST flavor, if not full. AP I think should just claim flavor, but
I'd like to see a role from Ku_F and a fullclaim from Rikumaru.
No
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:58 am
by Gorrad
Noted. I'm ready for Night.
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:39 pm
by Awesome Pants
Righto, I can't see anything else that needs to be discussed..
vote: Lord Gurgi
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:36 pm
by Lord Gurgi
Good Luck and all that. Look into Ku_F. One of Dahill or Gorrad is her partner, I couldn't say which.