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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:53 pm
by Ich Troje
trust me when I say that if I'm scum here I just bus or get my partners to bus me for towncred lol

well... I guess i might conceivably try to play "normally" if my partner was T3 but yeah I think I'm well out of what my scumrange in a setup like this is regardless.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:55 pm
by Ich Troje
actually nah, with the meta of the last game i could also just do that strat with T3 and point to our last game and say "nope that wouldn't happen there lol"

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:59 pm
by Ich Troje
After a brief reskim I firmly believe Enchant/Farren is TvS

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:15 pm
by Farren
Is that independent of what you think my alignment is?

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:06 pm
by ManateeDude
Hell VC1.12


We all know this one.


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to send someone to Hell


Enchant (3):
flow trap, T3, Dannflor
Farren (2):
redtea, Ich Troje
T3 (2):
Enchant, Esooa
Esooa (1):
northsidegal
Dannflor (1):
Farren


Not Voting:

Deadline:
(expired on 2021-07-29 13:00:00)


Mod Notes:

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:37 pm
by Esooa
I think flows pretty towny actually

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:47 pm
by Esooa
alr I thought they were unaligned with more of my PoE but it looks like mostly not with t3 or red, maybe not with enchant, but I actually dislike the interactions with farren from their side a lot

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:11 pm
by redtea
oh hold on
UNVOTE: Farren

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:51 pm
by redtea
idk why yall are harping on farren with 1 (irl) day left, and on a hell phase. Who's sending
farren
to hell day 1? no one here is who

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:52 pm
by redtea
you know, decide on who to send to hell first instead of wasting time we might actually need?

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:06 pm
by redtea

oh
mb thanks i guess
so you weren't ready to commit?


definitely comes across as un-self-aware town rather than sloppy maf play to me. Maybe because I've been there :lol: after getting tired of being eliminated day 1, i unwisely said something to that effect, and was once again dropkicked into the bottom of everyone's reads.
I do agree it's possibly the weakest omgus case that could be made so far and im not sure where enchant got an impression otherwise


you know what, by "saving redtea" i thought they meant "save from a hammer" not "save from a scumslip", since the latter is more or less cleared up for everyone
@ich
is that what you meant, or
are
you talking about The Incident

@northsidegal
, it seems you don't see ich town and you don't know how dann got to ich town?
curious because personally i don't think a single post of ich's has had a bad vibe to me

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:12 pm
by redtea
actually you know what,
In post 660, Ich Troje wrote:i don't care how good a person's reads might be, if i think they're town they're getting a heaven vote. i'm explicitly pushing for myself tomorrow regardless but if I have to compromise elsewhere that's my philosophy.
reads opportunist (I mean-
duh
, but not in a town way is what i mean), but since they've been holding back in general there could've been some kinda machinations about promoting themself as a heaven candidate (as a towny) for some time, for all I know


now you're just being a wise guy


i feel like farren brought up a good point that dann was dodging for a while- but this makes sense and is acceptable

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:24 pm
by redtea
okay nvm ich did explain their flow locktown read- I don't know what they saw that was so strong, but at least I found their explanation.

@esooa

i asked you about your wolf read on me, and farren being my partner


this made me go "omfg good point"
maybe if they're the token paranoiac?
some people (including themself) have said they have better reads late game anyway, though i don't think that that's something dann thought about

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:24 pm
by redtea
In post 643, T3 wrote:
In post 642, Esooa wrote:VOTE: t3
Unpopular opinion.
is it tho

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:26 pm
by redtea
"so you weren't ready to commit" i was literally mia im so dumb
sorry flow trap ignore that

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:33 pm
by redtea
can't believe i actually got back to something after saying i would
In post 594, Farren wrote:
In post 582, redtea wrote:farren started just laying down his opinions about others' opinions. it's gutsy. he's town for me now. can hardly believe it.
What's gutsy about it?
It felt like a direct challenge to the natural flow of the game, which as we know is subtly(ish) directed by maf. But not in a... "oh I need to post something Different now before I get labelled a sheep", but in a "hold on, no, I'm not giving this a pass" kind of way. Which I feel is kind of rarer to see in mafia, when the situation isn't a defensive or exploitative one.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:33 pm
by Esooa
In post 708, redtea wrote:idk why yall are harping on farren with 1 (irl) day left, and on a hell phase. Who's sending
farren
to hell day 1? no one here is who
why shouldn't we?

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:36 pm
by redtea
i should add that "oh no I should post something Different" is something town realizes too

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:37 pm
by redtea
In post 716, Esooa wrote:
In post 708, redtea wrote:idk why yall are harping on farren with 1 (irl) day left, and on a hell phase. Who's sending
farren
to hell day 1? no one here is who
why shouldn't we?
im not talking to you until you respond to me sorry

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:37 pm
by Esooa
In post 718, redtea wrote:
In post 716, Esooa wrote:
In post 708, redtea wrote:idk why yall are harping on farren with 1 (irl) day left, and on a hell phase. Who's sending
farren
to hell day 1? no one here is who
why shouldn't we?
im not talking to you until you respond to me sorry
lmao

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:38 pm
by Esooa
bruh you want to say why Farren is your partner? I don't think I ever even said that so tf?

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:38 pm
by Esooa
okay I'm losing my mind at these psots I think I'm just tired and need to not read mafia games lol

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:19 am
by T3
No idea what to make of redtea.

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:29 am
by flow trap
In post 714, redtea wrote:"so you weren't ready to commit" i was literally mia im so dumb
sorry flow trap ignore that
I didn't read that as an accusation in the first place :|

In post 719, Esooa wrote:
In post 718, redtea wrote:
In post 716, Esooa wrote:
In post 708, redtea wrote:idk why yall are harping on farren with 1 (irl) day left, and on a hell phase. Who's sending
farren
to hell day 1? no one here is who
why shouldn't we?
im not talking to you until you respond to me sorry
lmao
Is this an "I already responded to you" or an "That was dodgey"

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:13 am
by Ich Troje
In post 711, redtea wrote:actually you know what,
In post 660, Ich Troje wrote:i don't care how good a person's reads might be, if i think they're town they're getting a heaven vote. i'm explicitly pushing for myself tomorrow regardless but if I have to compromise elsewhere that's my philosophy.
reads opportunist (I mean-
duh
, but not in a town way is what i mean), but since they've been holding back in general there could've been some kinda machinations about promoting themself as a heaven candidate (as a towny) for some time, for all I know


now you're just being a wise guy


i feel like farren brought up a good point that dann was dodging for a while- but this makes sense and is acceptable
How is it opportunistic