but is that true? You and Jeff voted Yeezy 24 hours and you didn't wait. What's the difference?
I voted Jeff at day start b/c he's obvious scum (and why you don't think that makes me think you are scum with him.) You expressed interest in voting Owl b/c thats who you think is scum (b/c he is!) I said I'd join you and then you blasted me for trying to leave this 1v1. Like you can't have it both ways. I mean now you are saying lets do Jeff but earlier you didn't
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:27 am
by butterchurn
In post 699, Nero Cain wrote:I hammered Jeff after 4 days, we had all discussed and everyone had checked in. No one said anything about your not voting Scorp.
but I wasn't voting to get reactions
don't really buy it
If you mean hammering Scorp, not Jeff, there was plenty of discussion that still could have been had, but I don't think it was a bad hammer, just not a choice that I would have made. And what? You just said something about me not voting Scorp in 693, which I was responding to. Do you mean prior to that, and if so, what's the relevance of that?
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:34 am
by Nero Cain
yes, I meant that I hammed Scorp. Deadline only lasts a week, day 3 had gone on for 4 days, and practically everyone wanted scorp dead. It was just stalling and avoiding the inevitable . Yes disscussion is good but when a day drags it can cause apathy.
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:35 am
by butterchurn
In post 700, Nero Cain wrote:but is that true? You and Jeff voted Yeezy 24 hours and you didn't wait. What's the difference?
The difference between pushing in a wagon/hammering and being the first vote on a wagon should be obvious to you. One brings us closer to the end of the Day or directly brings it about, and the other does not. Voting early in ELo is also significantly different, because if you're town and vote town, the game ends.
In post 700, Nero Cain wrote:I voted Jeff at day start b/c he's obvious scum (and why you don't think that makes me think you are scum with him.) You expressed interest in voting Owl b/c thats who you think is scum (b/c he is!) I said I'd join you and then you blasted me for trying to leave this 1v1. Like you can't have it both ways. I mean now you are saying lets do Jeff but earlier you didn't
I didn't blast you at all, I thought it was odd behavior from you, and mentioned how my perceived likelihood of teams had changed as a result, but was still open to a switch. And no, earlier I was also willing to vote Jeff, and expected that I would be voting either Jeff or you. I thought Jeff was more suspicious than you (and said so), but wanted to wait to see how he responded to some questions I had for him. He mostly ignored them.
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:36 am
by butterchurn
In post 702, Nero Cain wrote:yes, I meant that I hammed Scorp. Deadline only lasts a week, day 3 had gone on for 4 days, and practically everyone wanted scorp dead. It was just stalling and avoiding the inevitable . Yes disscussion is good but when a day drags it can cause apathy.
I think that's a reasonable and understandable position to have. Personally I think more discussion could have been valuable and that's why I didn't vote yet, but like I said, I think that could just be a difference in playstyle and priorities.
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:09 pm
by Hella Jeff
In post 674, Ahri wrote:they say you cant have a full town GY
I say watch me.
VOTE: Hella Jeff
Spoiler:
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:14 pm
by Hella Jeff
In post 703, butterchurn wrote:I didn't blast you at all, I thought it was odd behavior from you, and mentioned how my perceived likelihood of teams had changed as a result, but was still open to a switch. And no, earlier I was also willing to vote Jeff, and expected that I would be voting either Jeff or you. I thought Jeff was more suspicious than you (and said so), but wanted to wait to see how he responded to some questions I had for him. He mostly ignored them.
that was because of time, but i'll continue to do so because my slot is going to get annihilated in the coming hours, there's no way that ahri's going to unvote before then
i'm VT
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:22 pm
by Nero Cain
I CC
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:02 am
by Klick
Oh Ahri you should unvote please while I catch up
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:05 am
by DkKoba
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:05 am
by Nero Cain
this game is a chore
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:08 am
by Nero Cain
a snail paced chore
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:26 am
by Nero Cain
like holy shit, I should get hazard pay or something.
scum is nearly fucking impossible to kill this game.
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:27 am
by Nero Cain
or at least a free trip to poland
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:46 am
by DkKoba
ahri and geraintm are being prodded
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:44 am
by Klick
Quiet Owl
, I want to know more about why you suspected Dwlee originally with the result you got on him. When you got 'no gun', what exactly went through your head? Lead me through the exact thought process that led to you doing what you did with the claim.
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:01 am
by butterchurn
Owl is now Not_Mafia, so I'm guessing he won't know the thought process.
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:10 am
by Klick
Oops, ty, missed that.
With everything I've read around the situation I'm inclined to believe QO was town who genuinely thought they'd caught scum in Dwlee. I also think their role fits well with mine - I'm curious to see what the other claims are (and if we've not all claimed by now then I'd like that to happen).
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:23 am
by Klick
Nero's Page 22 is really damn good
I completely buy that he wouldn't be tryharding this position as scum lol
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:26 am
by geraintm
Ok, I'm sorry for not posting more.
I was sorta waiting on Owl's night result which never came, and now we have to get it from Not Mafia so who knows if we ever shall. I ain't voting anywhere until NM tells us because it should narrow down the choices considerably.
NM means you'll get a good read on me at least.
Will go through posts now and reply as best I can
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:28 am
by geraintm
I'm like 99% sold on Jeff being thr vote now, I cannot see easily how the game isn't over otherwise, consider my vote there
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:30 am
by geraintm
In post 702, Nero Cain wrote:yes, I meant that I hammed Scorp. Deadline only lasts a week, day 3 had gone on for 4 days, and practically everyone wanted scorp dead. It was just stalling and avoiding the inevitable . Yes disscussion is good but when a day drags it can cause apathy.
Apathy has killed the game for me....and I do realise I am fully part of that
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:31 am
by geraintm
Though needing 2 players replaced as the game reaches its conclusion really hasn't helped either
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:34 am
by geraintm
Looking at nervous post 693 as the logical starting point for me, except 2 of the pieces get swapped around. I am usually a betting man in these situations and I know where my last vote is likely to go. One player feels like they are doing their best to solve this and others aren't and just trying to deflect when caught. But NM needs to come along quick
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:00 am
by Klick
In post 693, Nero Cain wrote:barring some big brain play where butter and Ger are scum together and he's distancing from him they are different factions meaning 2 of the 3 scum are in jeff and owl wich makes sense via play.
I think you possibly jumped the gun on this butter/geraintm read? My impression of this day phase so far is that there isn't any good reason butter and gera couldn't be buddies