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Didn't Tar say something similar and turn out town? (Yes, he did.)

Yes, and there was a reason he was blown up for it. 1st off, layers and layers of WIFOM. Second, suicidal people are rarely mafia kills.

Surely the second point is an arguement for not lynching suicidals?

I concede the first point.

Surely the second point is an arguement for not lynching suicidals?

I concede the first point.

Eventually it will be if we give too many free passes. Unfortunately, if we don't, we just kill townies, so...if you are town, stop being stupid, and if you are scum, please be suicidal. That's my stance, anywho.

M4yh3m, the suicidal people can only have their alignment revealed via a lynch, regardless of how pro-town/anti-town their actions are. Now, what other group in this game falls under the same circumstances, and how can we reasonably distinguish the two while someone is acting that way?

The whole town falls under that description, surely, unless they get the bomb?

As for distinguishing the two, I'd say go by behavior, except that K7 barely talks anyway. I don't like the 'we have to lynch someone who says x' mentality though. Townies say stupid things quite often, we can't kill them all.

K7- Who do you think is scum at the moment and how come? And do you really want to die?

The whole town falls under that description, surely, unless they get the bomb?

Actually, the option I was going for is mafia. The rest of the towncan have their role revealed by the "mafia NK" aka bomb.

armlx has a point, *shocked*, but I would say that we can't classify everyone into one box based on actions - but only a foolish member of the mafia would do something that got that reaction, pondering.

but only a foolish member of the mafia would do something that got that reaction, pondering.

WIFOM.

EBWODP: To be fair, odds are that scenario would apply to K7 all game anyways. Also, now would probably be a better time to deal with people who are acting scummy in other ways to gain more info. He has to die by lynch at a later point however.

Also, what differentiates him from tar is tar used it as a defense to a larger attack.

What we should do is kill anyone who asks to be killed. If they are town, then good job, you're sabotaging the game. If they're mafia, then they're dead. This is similar to lynch all lurkers. If you make it a rule, lurkers would stop lurking to avoid being killed. Same thing goes for suicidal players.

Battousai wrote:What we should do is kill anyone who asks to be killed. If they are town, then good job, you're sabotaging the game. If they're mafia, then they're dead. This is similar to lynch all lurkers. If you make it a rule, lurkers would stop lurking to avoid being killed. Same thing goes for suicidal players.

No, you don't kill him. You tell him, "Post content or prepare to be killed." If K7 doesn't actually play this game, then yes, he's a problem, because he would be useless to the town and there's very little chance he'd ever get a bomb. In that case, it would probably be beneficial to blow him up.

That's what I meant, like you give lurkers a warning, you give suicidals a warning. I meant it to be the same process as lynch all lurkers.

We already gave suicidals a warning when we got Tar exploded. K7 obviously has no capacity to learn (or he doesn't care).

because I hate the idea of killing townies automatically for saying something which may just be a joke. Seems a good way for scum to get innocents killed, there's even a ready made excuse when they flip town: 'oh, he asked for it.'

Back track within 2 posts = fun.

Oh wait, vote is already there.

M4yhem wrote:We already gave suicidals a warning when we got Tar exploded. K7 obviously has no capacity to learn (or he doesn't care).

Unvote, Vote: Battousai

because I hate the idea of killing townies automatically for saying something which may just be a joke. Seems a good way for scum to get innocents killed, there's even a ready made excuse when they flip town: 'oh, he asked for it.'

Coming from the LAL person, this is hypocritical.

I don't see why. There's a difference between lynching people for not scumhunting or providing content and lynching people for making jokes.

Battousai (3) : armlx, Battousai, M4yhem
Iron Man (2): forbiddanlight, Iron Man
alvinz95 (2) : Max, Battle Mage
DragonsofSummer (2) : DragonsofSummer, the silent speaker
armlx (2) : Twomz, Haschel Cedricson
the silent speaker (1) : Coron
Max (1) : alvinz95
M4yhem (1) : Crazy

self voting and only self voted (3): Pokerface, killa seven, Jex

Still 6 self-votes.

M4yhem wrote:I don't see why. There's a difference between lynching people for not scumhunting or providing content and lynching people for making jokes.

Hmm, good point.

Batt, if K7 was regularly scum-hunting, would you be of the same opinion that you are now?

On second thought, this will take forever, so I'll give you a deadline-with-a-twist:
Each week I'll remove as many players as possible from the bottom of the vote count, so that the "advancing" players still have a majority of votes shared on them. (Tied players will only be removed/advanced together).

Right now this would mean that Battousai, Iron Man, alvinz95, DragonsofSummer and armlx would advance (11 votes combined). I'll bold the currently advancing players in the upcoming vote counts.

Obviously if only one player would advance, he's the lynch anyway.

Deadline #1 will be Thursday the 25th 23:00 CET (which is in exactly 8 days).

That seems dumb and restrictive.

Lol, TDC's making his own game.

I'll if that's the case, because M4yhem owned that question.

armlx wrote:That seems dumb and restrictive.

Less restrictive than a normal deadline.
More restrictive than waiting a month, sure.

M4yhem wrote: K7- Who do you think is scum at the moment and how come? And do you really want to die?

If i had the bomb i would probably Blow up Batt.

I thought this game would be more of blow up fest, and i exspected to get the bomb by now.

I dont like the whole argument that we should kill k7 because the scum wont and he will be around later, the point is to blow up scum, if you think im scum blow me up, if you think im just unhelpfull but town, then thats not really good town play.

Who knows what will happen in the next few days we may go on a streek and hit scum back to back.

armlx wrote:

Didn't Tar say something similar and turn out town? (Yes, he did.)

Yes, and there was a reason he was blown up for it. 1st off, layers and layers of WIFOM. Second, suicidal people are rarely mafia kills.

I would think the scum would want to give the bomb to lurkers who really dont know whats going on in the game, vs giving the bomb to someone whos a stronger player.

Less restrictive than a normal deadline.

Hardly. You are restricting our choices without considering future events.

I would think the scum would want to give the bomb to lurkers who really dont know whats going on in the game, vs giving the bomb to someone whos a stronger player.

I'm now convinced K7 needs to die now/soon.