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Post Post #7000 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:27 am

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In post 6997, Xtoxm wrote:are you certain this is correct?
because one thing means skitter is lock-town, never eliminate
and the other means nothing.
I'll ask Krazy again but I'm p sure that's what my role does. It makes all night actions on the Top/Bottom of the player list succeed - so things like commuting/ascetic wouldn't like stop NAs.

What I did not realize was that it also means a Loyal Messenger would go through on a Mafia or Miller.

In my defense however, um it doesn't make much sense to use a Loyal Messenger on a Miller to begin with since the result would be meaningless!
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Post Post #7001 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:27 am

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I am going to encourage the other musketeers in xtoxm and skitter to come join me out of protest.
like idunno guys, lunar's play seems really anti-town if town and pretty pro-scum/openwolfing.
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Post Post #7002 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:27 am

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anyway Tweetie is still mafia so let's do that

VOTE: Tweetie
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Post Post #7003 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:28 am

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Lunar is town
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Post Post #7004 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:29 am

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In post 6676, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 6512, Starcrossed wrote:xtox is a scum mailman

tweetie is a scum ascetic
why do you think im scum Pooky this is out of genuine curiosity and for no other reason, why
this is a "i don't know why i'm caught" scumpost
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Post Post #7005 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:30 am

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OkVOTE: tweetie
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'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me

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Post Post #7006 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:31 am

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In post 7000, Starcrossed wrote:it doesn't make much sense to use a Loyal Messenger on a Miller to begin with since the result would be meaningless!
Tbf i'm p sure that at least in a 'normal' sense loyal roles should work on millers

Like this is the first time i've seen otherwise
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Post Post #7007 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:39 am

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In post 7004, Starcrossed wrote:
In post 6676, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 6512, Starcrossed wrote:xtox is a scum mailman

tweetie is a scum ascetic
why do you think im scum Pooky this is out of genuine curiosity
and for no other reason
, why
this is a "i don't know why i'm caught" scumpost
VOTE: Tweetie

I think that even if Krazy does verify inverted, I haven’t really been a fan of Tweetie’s posting in this game. It’s a very awkward way to phrase that question. Why not just say like why am I scum here or why do you think I’m scum here?
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Post Post #7008 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:39 am

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In post 7001, Glory and Mel wrote:I am going to encourage the other musketeers in xtoxm and skitter to come join me out of protest.
like idunno guys, lunar's play seems really anti-town if town and pretty pro-scum/openwolfing.
mm, i liked the no-protective rule idea
the setup does look like its built around investigatives, and things that mess with investigatives.
then rolestopper stands out on its own.
i've been thinking he's an unlikely draft, but beyond that i don't have a reason to tr him
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Post Post #7009 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:41 am

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In post 7006, skitter30 wrote:
In post 7000, Starcrossed wrote:it doesn't make much sense to use a Loyal Messenger on a Miller to begin with since the result would be meaningless!
Tbf i'm p sure that at least in a 'normal' sense loyal roles should work on millers

Like this is the first time i've seen otherwise

Any Alignment

Miller
, Super Saint, Vigilante, Vengeful
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Post Post #7010 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:42 am

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I tr lunar martian on his reaction to my bullshit claim in the hood, I'd think if he was in a PT with Hectic, Hectic would've just told him I was full of shit and he wouldn't have taken me seriously.

also as a leashed rolestopper, he kind of has to keep the revealed mason alive and I'm not sure how much longer Hectic can afford to kill around him if he were actually town here.
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Post Post #7011 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:50 am

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In post 7010, Starcrossed wrote:I tr lunar martian on his reaction to my bullshit claim in the hood, I'd think if he was in a PT with Hectic, Hectic would've just told him I was full of shit and he wouldn't have taken me seriously.

also as a leashed rolestopper, he kind of has to keep the revealed mason alive and I'm not sure how much longer Hectic can afford to kill around him if he were actually town here.
+1

I think catboi’s role makes sense with a town rolestopper because why would scum need a scum rolestopper when they have stickyfruit?
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Post Post #7012 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:52 am

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If Pooky is right on Tweetie than he’s caught 3/4 scum in this game.
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Post Post #7013 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:56 am

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skitter30 - Rightside down Miller
If she's not clear then like tbh I can't really defend this, but I don't think its scum and I'll take the L if it is. Her day 3 seemed pretty ok. is good for FL but at the same time this actually doesn't nothing for me. I need to see how he reached those conclusions and if cased it I would give it an honest read.
Like Gamma tracked her N2 so far we only know of scum who can do things within the game. Catboi and Dann both had roles that did things so like she seems most likely town than not but this isn't very strong.

Hopkirk - mason
enough said

unwnd - hated supersaint thing
play doesn't seem scum motivated and is honestly just a waste of time to talk about right now. Like who cares honestly?

Morning Tweet - ascetic miller
leftovers, not as town as VMP or Chara but not as scummy as Lunar
I'd vote it
wtf is this combination of roles tho


Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra) - targets on top and bottom player of the pl will always work.
conf via xtoxm and has a role that is proven to be legit. If Skitter is mafia, then their role is real. If Skitter is a miller, then their role is real. If Skitter is not a miller or mafia then I have no idea what the fuck is going on in this game.
Really wish tho that Pooky didn't mislead with saying he removes millers and ascetics but it's Pooky so it doesn't bother me as much as it should.
@Pooky how would my role interact with that?


Ydrasse - 1-shot rightside up cop
Apparently was guiltied by FL. Has done nothing that's townie throughout the whole game.
This seems really strong considering the amount of the investigatives that are in the game.

Chara - Poem Vendor
seems more townie than the leftovers

Xtoxm - Ascetic Loyal/Disloyal Mailman
role seems townie and pretty solid and has townie moments. His response to my tracker claim was pretty legit before I claimed the rightside up part.
Ascetic makes sense to be apart of his role since if I just tracked him all game it would be pretty overpowered.

Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro) - Ascetic
seems more townie than the leftovers
Evidence of this is that nancy's play seems probably townie, hectic probably doesn't draft them, and auro's response to hearing that something could turn off ascetics was really good btw. Its weird that you see Auro doing something like that but not MT btw.
Auro has also just been town whenever he's been around as well.

Hectic
bullies pichus

Lunar Martian - Rolestopper
why is his d4 so anti-town and pro-scum
why is this the only protective role in the game
why does it have no limitations
why is it a Rolestopper with no modifiers attached to it
why did hecitc draft this player
why does this make town look like it has a lot power
what is this play this dayphase btw
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Post Post #7014 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:56 am

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In post 7010, Starcrossed wrote:I tr lunar martian on his reaction to my bullshit claim in the hood, I'd think if he was in a PT with Hectic, Hectic would've just told him I was full of shit and he wouldn't have taken me seriously.

also as a leashed rolestopper, he kind of has to keep the revealed mason alive and I'm not sure how much longer Hectic can afford to kill around him if he were actually town here.
this could be valid
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Post Post #7015 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:59 am

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Never voting today - Hopkirk, xtoxm, starcrossed, unwnd*
kinda town - chara, VMP, Skitter
Whatever - Ydra, MT, Lunar
VOTE: MT
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Post Post #7016 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:01 am

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xtoxm come vote MT?
Tho you might be putting her at L-1 if you do.
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Post Post #7017 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:02 am

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Idunno Pooky the setup seems really inbalanced with a Rolestopper. Town has a lot going for it.
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Post Post #7018 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:10 am

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Actually if Ydra is scum why did she move up the playerlist and above me?
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Post Post #7019 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:11 am

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Like she's giving me the opportunity to track her on this cycle
why as scum would she do that?
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Post Post #7020 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:12 am

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Yeah Ydra has beeing climbing up the playerlist since the start of the game
why is this happening?
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Post Post #7021 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:14 am

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oh wait no I misread her role she needs to be ABOVE people to get investigation results on them
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Post Post #7022 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:16 am

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In post 7013, Glory and Mel wrote:Really wish tho that Pooky didn't mislead with saying he removes millers and ascetics but it's Pooky so it doesn't bother me as much as it should.
@Pooky how would my role interact with that?
I didn't mislead lol I just suck at reading :3

If you track someone who is being targeted by me(top and bottom of the mechanical player list), as I understand my role, your track action would succeed regardless of player position.

I can ask Krazy tho if you want to be sure.
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Post Post #7023 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:17 am

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that actually checks out.
VOTE: Lunar
Assuming FL did try to loyal neighborize Ydra and failed, this is something I'm interested in flipping because this could be the reason why that action failed.
It's probably correct to vote Lunar/MT before Ydra so lets go with this.

pedit: ty pooky
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Post Post #7024 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:19 am

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Like Lunar "forgot" his n1 action between Jan 19th - Jan 22nd but he was posting on site during those dates so I'm not sure how thats possible?
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