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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:37 pm
by Taly
Could it just be
RH9
?

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:38 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
actually, you know what?

Taly, which pairing would you feel the worst about losing to

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:38 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
or the best I mean

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:39 pm
by Datisi
is s_s/ydra really scum/scum? like, what was s_s's plan there. paranoia the ic pair into leaving, probably get my yeet. and then him and galron are left against alyssa and rh9. who gets voted out there?

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:39 pm
by Taly
oooh hmmmm.

shit good question

dat/gl
because dead thread

you/rh9
because holy shit i am so deep in your pocket
aly
even when i tried to crawl out

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:39 pm
by GuiltyLion
my WIM has returned in force

I want to reread predance now knowing 3/4 scum. I think we can solve based on info there. I should have just stuck with my reads before all the replace ins, I had Cabd dead to rights and I just lost sight of the plot when the triple replace out happened

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:40 pm
by Datisi
actually, did rh9 say he was getting paranoid of alyssa or thinking she's scum?

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:40 pm
by GuiltyLion
like, I don't think much of what anyone says here will be useful, the best info is going to come from the 50+ pages at the start of the game methinks

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:41 pm
by Taly
*hugs gl because he is a fluffy tiger*

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:42 pm
by Taly
im hoping its not too obvious that my brain has stopped with Mafia since New Years

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:44 pm
by Taly
datisi
do you think that one brain cell in each of our heads will merge and we will autosolve?

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:46 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
In post 1377, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I think that likely one of
marcistar
and RH9 is scum, considering that the two of them are the ones I most distinctly remember doing this potential posturing. I don't find it super likely that both are scum, but it is possible.
I don't think that both
marcistar
and
angielily
are scum, but I find it likely that one is.
I do still believe that
Firebringer
+
Andante
are TvT
I'm going to pretend that Ydrasse doesn't exist in a read sense since her alignment is effectively irrelevant until post-intermission assuming that pairing survives intermission.
I think that
Catboi
is likely town from this, but I'm not entirely sure since I could see a world where
Catboi
could have pivoted towards attempting to pocket me using the
Cabd
thing as a springboard. I admit I'm also really not sure how to take the trajectory towards looking to pair with me in the first place.
I still think Datisi is town.
Galron
I want to say is town, but I don't know enough about him to be able to assess how likely I am to read him accurately.
Save the Dragons
and
Malakittens
I have no true read on, but shot in the dark logic is that
Malakittens
is town.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:46 pm
by Taly
In post 7053, Datisi wrote:is s_s/ydra really scum/scum? like, what was s_s's plan there. paranoia the ic pair into leaving, probably get my yeet. and then him and galron are left against alyssa and rh9. who gets voted out there?
yeah i dont think
SS
is a partner to
Ydra


that means he willingly pushed me to succumb to leaving, thus eliminating his partner.

that's a lot of unnecessary distance considering he could've just fueled my interest in endgaming and he'd still win.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:47 pm
by Datisi
i already used up my one brain cell in figuring out what s_s was doing, it's your turn now

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:48 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
alright

well

if I leave
right now
, what happens?

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:48 pm
by Taly
Taly V GL
probably

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:48 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
are you going to be able to correctly determine which is the scum between Ydrasse and Datisi?

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:48 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
because I think there's next to no odds that RH9 is scum this game

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:48 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
and I'm really not interested in fighting against the Ydrasse townread since that's basically a brick wall if it's even still up

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:49 pm
by Taly
then why leave
aly
?

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:49 pm
by GuiltyLion
In post 1874, RH9 wrote:
In post 1854, Taly wrote:Leaves the pool with
RH9/Galron
as gents and
Mala/Angie/GuiltyLion
as ladies.
This is becoming scary because out of the three in your pool, I only TR GL. The others are null.
Actually, I'll just propose to the three that I'm fine with now before it it too late and I'm stuck with Mala and angielily.

I'm pretty sure that the setup didn't say that I can only propose to one person.
PROPOSE:GL

PROPOSE:Alyssa

PROPOSE:S_S


I'm panicking. This is the end of the world.
In post 1921, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1917, GuiltyLion wrote:S_S what do you think about RH9's proposal
I was literally thinking about it as you posted this.

My instinct is to call it town because RH9 seems like the type to plan out exactly who he wants to pair with as scum and I wouldn't expect him to leave it this much out of his hands.

And, though weirdly phrased, I think the emotion is more likely genuine because I do get that feeling of "oh shit, all the good ones are gone" whereas scum would be like "welp just gotta find anybody who's willing".
In post 1922, Something_Smart wrote:I doubt catboi ever proposes to me so between RH9 and Galron I think I lean RH9. I remember thinking Galron's carefree manner was mildly +town but it seems like that's mostly dropped off.
In post 1934, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1925, Firebringer wrote:SS r u going for a townread to pair with or what is ur idea of good pairing
I was thinking of it, yeah... there really isn't anyone that I care to bomb. I think it's entirely possible that I can turn the suspicion on my slot around, and being with someone I townread would be really good in that case.

Maybe it's better to put RH9 with Alyssa though? How are people reading Alyssa?
hmmm hmmm hmmmmmmm

I feel this is significant but my first impression doesn't point me to a definite answer

if scum!RH9, this is scum!Smart trying to smoothly avoid being forced into a S/S pair. definitely seems possible

if town!RH9, does Smart want to set up scum!Alyssa with RH9? Why would he do that when RH9 feels like he could be limbait at any moment and Alyssa would be best bet for endgame in a {marci, Andante, Smart, Alyssa} team?

I guess scum could be in {Ydra/Datisi} and this is Smart trying to set up a pair where town!Alyssa doesn't endgame

but I do think this is ++town for Alyssa, again

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:50 pm
by Taly
idk why
dat
is a consideration for scum atm tbh

do you think he busses a partner when its looking too bad for him?

sounds like a scum throw if so

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:50 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
because if Datisi is town, then he's going to be stuck on this paranoia for the rest of the game, which could be instantly game losing
if Ydrasse is scum, I see this endgame being just lost
if Datisi is scum, I'm actually more convinced that GL will see it and leave in a 4p, especially without my pairing being there to muddy the waters up more

and if it's just RH9, then my idea of being the last pairing is just gamelosing if I stay

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:51 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
I'll wait until GL is done at least

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:51 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
ngl I thought he would be doing it a bit later on

I'll respect the effort enough to at least wait though