Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:24 am
by Krazy
Here's where I am at the end of this dayphase. To be clear, the greens aren't really towncases (wave should ignore everything above JJD if he wants to avoid the 'signal to noise ratio'), they're just my current feelings. There's some observations for pink and below. JJD and GR are about the same here as in my post earlier. Mostly I wanted to share because I had fun putting it together
Special Abilities:
Grappling Hook: Can disappear from the game whenever there's a wagon she doesn't like.
Widow's Kiss: Throws obvtown at L-1 with no explanation.
Was obvscum after:
Special abilities:
RAGE CAPS -- the ability to knock back bullshit during a CFD[/quote]
Note: Obviously not conftown for anyone else, since they didn't get my role PM.
Catchphrase:
You know he's town because the character is in all the promotional material for the game.
Hero Selected:
Abilities:
Total Mayhem: Can be hilariously self-destructive
Frag Launcher: Does incredible damage to nearby targets, but struggles to hit snipers like Texcat
Characteristics:
Seems like scum the entire game until PLOT TWIST he was just a confused good guy the entire time.
Note: YES, I CHOSE THE GIFS BEFORE TCHILL WAS CONFTOWN. SO JUNKRAT AND ROADHOG AREN'T ON THE SAME TEAM NOW. DEAL WITH IT.
Armor Pack -- Can keep fellow heroes like Tchill from getting mislynched. Also works on himself.
Build Turret -- Spends day 1 building his turret while ignoring the thread.
Highlights:
Catchphrase:
Abilities:
Sprint -- Has the ability to start CFDs to get into close range of sniper scum.
Biotic Field -- Manages to avoid mislynches on his own which is good because apparently Winston's shields are garbage.
Characteristics:
Everyone thinks he's scum for half the game because he has a red visor, and red is always bad.
Everyone complains about his playstyle because they think it comes from Call of Duty.
Should probably be locktown but no one trusts old people.
The reason every apparently decided he's scum:
Roll -- Creature transforms into a ball, moving from vote to vote and disrupting wagon positioning
Grappling Claw -- If Creature posts more than the average player in the game, the entire town will think he's obvtown
Highlights:
***THOSE LAST TWO ARE TWO SEPARATE POSTS***
Abilities:
Wall Climb: Myloninja has the ability to exit the thread at random, but can reappear at critical times
Storm Bow: Myloninja can reach any slot with his votes, making him useful for taking out enemy snipers
Highlights:
Energy Ball -- Able to shape Night Kill Analysis into balls of pure energy
Highlights:
Biotic Rifle -- Skygazer has long range with her votes allowing her to reach enemy snipers
Nano Boost -- Skygazer's incredible sheeping allows her to give wagons the power they need to lynch scum
Sleep Dart -- Skygazer has the ability to lurk through the game except when she's drunkposting
Highlights:
Notes: I think wave's TC here on Dave is much more convincing than wave's TC on Gamma's slot.
Combat Roll -- Dodge Away from the Game when Scum is at L-1
Deadeye -- Demand claims from multiple people simultaneously
Flashbang -- Blinds himself from Golden Rob sheeping his votes half the game
Characteristic -- Full-blown COWBOY Town Syndrome:
Highlights:
Wall ride: Vaxkiller can appear or disappear from the thread at random
Sound Barrier: Make it hard to get a wagon on Vax by never saying anything over two sentences long
Highlights:
Highlights:
Take a Breather -- Able to recover from tactical nukes
Whole Hog -- Able to knock busses into his teammates
Scrap Gun -- Take down attack helicopters
If scum, here were some tells:
Also page 115: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... start=2850
Highlights:
Note: Wave's TC here involves Gamma being incisive and aggressive, which seems simply untenable if you look at the duration between votes and the nature of the pushes.
Shadow Shift -- can vanish from the game when scum is put to L-1
Biotic Orb -- Golden Robster can Heal or Destroy her teammates. The question is... who are her teammates?
TEXCAT -- KIA
Spoiler:
Special Abilities:
Grappling Hook: Can disappear from the game whenever there's a wagon she doesn't like.
Widow's Kiss: Throws obvtown at L-1 with no explanation.
Was obvscum after:
HIGHLIGHT:In post 3098, texcat wrote:Have you looked at Mylo's ISO? Have you looked at ArcAngel's ISO (though it has improved somewhat with BrawlGuy's replace in)?In post 3039, Flavor Leaf wrote:The fact that Wheme, Lalendra, and Mylo are on PP also points towards PP town. They’re either scum joining on, or town that is being used a scum sheep votes for scum.
Wheme likely has the worst ISO in this game, to be honest. We had Wave, who I think is town, alongside the masons and Penguin being the only ones on the Wheme wagon initially when PP was picking up steam.
I have this sneaking suspicion that scum is controlling this game. Perhaps it's just my bad gut. The one advantage that town has over scum is numbers. And we give up that advantage when so many players are not playing.In post 3096, Scioness Sajj wrote:After yesterday I feel okay with my vote on Wheme.
I have no idea how Texcat could make that post asking about extension (not to say it looked like giving an extension would suggest answer) and then asks about Mylo.
Yesterday when we started consolidating wagons, it looked like it was going to be either Performer or Wavemode. And then it actually ended up being Performer and Android. And today, it looked like it was going to be Penguin and Robster, but now it's looking like Penguin and Wheme. Based on this alone, I'd say Wavemode and Robster are likely scum.
In post 5730, texcat wrote: It came from my very scummy read of TBG's predecessor, ArcAngel.
![:]](./images/smilies/icon_smiling.png "Cheerful Smile"){kind=icon}
Conftown -- Krazy POV
Krazy
Spoiler:
Special abilities:
RAGE CAPS -- the ability to knock back bullshit during a CFD[/quote]
Note: Obviously not conftown for anyone else, since they didn't get my role PM.
Hopkirk
Spoiler:
Catchphrase:
Characteristics:"Cheers, love! The cavalry's here!"
You know he's town because the character is in all the promotional material for the game.
Likely Conftown (Conditional on single flip)
Tchill13
Spoiler:
Hero Selected:
It's a perfect day for some mayhem!
Abilities:
Total Mayhem: Can be hilariously self-destructive
Frag Launcher: Does incredible damage to nearby targets, but struggles to hit snipers like Texcat
Characteristics:
Seems like scum the entire game until PLOT TWIST he was just a confused good guy the entire time.
Note: YES, I CHOSE THE GIFS BEFORE TCHILL WAS CONFTOWN. SO JUNKRAT AND ROADHOG AREN'T ON THE SAME TEAM NOW. DEAL WITH IT.
Wavemode
Spoiler:
Build 'em up, break 'em down.
Abilities:
Armor Pack -- Can keep fellow heroes like Tchill from getting mislynched. Also works on himself.
Build Turret -- Spends day 1 building his turret while ignoring the thread.
Highlights:
Close to Locktown
TehBrawlGuy
Spoiler:
Catchphrase:
Quit screwing around and get ready to move!
Abilities:
Sprint -- Has the ability to start CFDs to get into close range of sniper scum.
Biotic Field -- Manages to avoid mislynches on his own which is good because apparently Winston's shields are garbage.
Characteristics:
Everyone thinks he's scum for half the game because he has a red visor, and red is always bad.
Everyone complains about his playstyle because they think it comes from Call of Duty.
Should probably be locktown but no one trusts old people.
The reason every apparently decided he's scum:
Highlight:In post 3062, TehBrawlGuy wrote:oh fuck it's closer than I thought
VOTE: wheme
still open to counterwagons but this is a more useful vote than wave atm
In post 6065, TehBrawlGuy wrote:eh
VOTE: tex
it's just more likely to me
i can some back to sajj if we need my vote to secure lynch
Likely Town -- Not in any particular order
Creature
Spoiler:
Abilities:Don't anger the hamster.
Roll -- Creature transforms into a ball, moving from vote to vote and disrupting wagon positioning
Grappling Claw -- If Creature posts more than the average player in the game, the entire town will think he's obvtown
Highlights:
Myloninja AKA Hiloninja AKA MYLON
Spoiler:
Hi I'm still here!
Hi guys.
Hi sorry I'm still here lol.
Hi I'm here sorry
Hi I'm here sorry
***THOSE LAST TWO ARE TWO SEPARATE POSTS***
Abilities:
Wall Climb: Myloninja has the ability to exit the thread at random, but can reappear at critical times
Storm Bow: Myloninja can reach any slot with his votes, making him useful for taking out enemy snipers
Highlights:
In post 3185, Myloninja13 wrote:I mean, from what I've seen I'm not sure he'd claim regardless but sure lol.In post 3184, TehBrawlGuy wrote:just intent so he claims instead of playing around
Intent to Hammer Wheme
PLAY OF THE GAME:In post 6308, Myloninja13 wrote:Okay!In post 6307, Creature wrote:Vote him then to ensure we got this hammered
VOTE: texcat
Ankamius
Spoiler:
Abilities:The True Enemy of Humanity is Disorder
Energy Ball -- Able to shape Night Kill Analysis into balls of pure energy
Highlights:
In post 6176, Ankamius wrote:VOTE: texcat
Doesn't matter, I'm not convinced by any of what's going on anymore
Skygazer
Spoiler:
Abilities:Never stop fighting for what you believe in.
Biotic Rifle -- Skygazer has long range with her votes allowing her to reach enemy snipers
Nano Boost -- Skygazer's incredible sheeping allows her to give wagons the power they need to lynch scum
Sleep Dart -- Skygazer has the ability to lurk through the game except when she's drunkposting
Highlights:
Notes: I think wave's TC here on Dave is much more convincing than wave's TC on Gamma's slot.
Complicated and Conditional Townread
JarJarDrinks
Spoiler:
Justice ain't gonna dispense itself.
Abilities
Combat Roll -- Dodge Away from the Game when Scum is at L-1
Deadeye -- Demand claims from multiple people simultaneously
Flashbang -- Blinds himself from Golden Rob sheeping his votes half the game
Characteristic -- Full-blown COWBOY Town Syndrome:
In post 2580, JarJarDrinks wrote:I want the partner claim or I'm considering this fake.In post 2555, Flavor Leaf wrote:Claiming mason. Legit claiming mason.
In post 5687, JarJarDrinks wrote:Can we gat a vote and/or intent on TBG so they can claim already? 2 days left.
In post 5688, JarJarDrinks wrote:Honestly I'd love it is SS and TBG would just both go ahead and claim at this point.
In post 5691, TehBrawlGuy wrote:VT
In post 6043, JarJarDrinks wrote:Claim
In post 6265, JarJarDrinks wrote:I really cant decide if I'd rather a no lynch or join the wagon w/ all the scummy people in the game on it.
In post 6281, JarJarDrinks wrote:I'm strongly against no-lynches too.
ButI cannot join that wagon.In post 6253, Krazy wrote:NOT AN OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT
TehBrawlGuy(4) ~ Kublai Khan(23), Texcat(12), Myloninja13(18), Wavemode(54)
JarJarDrinks() ~
Scioness Sajj(4) ~ Golden Robster(62), JarJarDrinks(66), Hopkirk(28) Tchill13(130),
Texcat (L-1) ~ Krazy(64), Gamma Emerald, Vaxkiller(19) Scioness Sajj(29), TehBrawlGuy(67), Creature(63), Skygazer(10), Ankamius(85),
Highlights:
Null
Vaxkiller
Spoiler:
Abilities:Come on, let's bring it together!
Wall ride: Vaxkiller can appear or disappear from the thread at random
Sound Barrier: Make it hard to get a wagon on Vax by never saying anything over two sentences long
Highlights:
Leanscum
Kublai Khan
Spoiler:
Possible Scumtells:Only through conflict do we evolve
<--BuzzwordsIn post 143, Kublai Khan wrote:*low whistle*In post 142, Almost50 wrote:If that's true then dueling on it persistently is another way of signaling it to your team.In post 141, Kublai Khan wrote:If you were a traitor and wanted to flag to your team who you are, then bringing up the possibility of a traitor apropos of nothing is a pretty good beacon.In post 129, Ausuka wrote:Yep, and I've explained why I believe there is a traitor. Do you actually scumread me for this?In post 128, Kublai Khan wrote:Huh. Second time Ausuka is mentioning a traitor.
Not bad.
- Unprompted chainsaw defending
- "No, you!"
- Lying ("persistently")
I was voting your for the stupid BS stuff you were doing earlier, you could have ridden that out. But now you are super number 1 scum with a bullet.
He doesn't re-vote for 26 hours.In post 2366, Kublai Khan wrote:Fine. I can think of a few exceptions to this but they feel a little far-off at the moment.In post 2362, Golden Robster wrote:he's softclaiming a strong PRIn post 2229, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m probably a super strong PR this game and lurking for that reason.
if he's vt, then he's acting as a decent nk bait
if he's actually pr, then he's painting a big target on himself (unlikely)
if he's scum then he's bringing unneeded attention to himself by acting scummy and saying he'll be conftown
UNVOTE:
Really dislike that he puts texcat in town pile which seems at odds with his questions earlier. Don't get why GR is townpile, don't get why Pine is weaktown, don't get why Gamma is weak town, kinda have a hard time following the logic in this list. Also not in love with the metoo to Mason buddy claim.In post 2692, Kublai Khan wrote:Spent the last 3 hours sorting through isos and re-skimming Day 2. Here's where I'm currently standing.
Town pile
Ausuka
Hopkirk
Andriod19
Dunnstral
Golden Robster
texcat
PenguinPower
JarJarDrinks
Weaktown
Gamma Emerald
EspeciallyTheLies
Lalendra
Frozen Angel
Pine
Eh... pile
Scioness Sajj
ArcAngel9
Creature (Apparently has a famous meta where he's active as town and lurks as scum. He lurks. But replaces out, which someone (WhemeStar?) sold as being town, but is it?)
WhemeStar
Scum pile
Flavor Leaf
Vaxkiller
Myloninja13
Wavemode
I'm in the group that says that Flavor Leaf's mason buddy needs to claim. On the re-read it just feels like his town & scum read on me & JarJarDrinks keeps flipping depending on whoever is attacking him. There is something manipulative in his play and he's trying to hide it with smoke and mirrors. Like his explanation of his reaction to Golden Robster is all WIFOM. He's basically arguing that there's no excuse for scum to play/react badly. Well of course not. But we catch scum when they do play/react badly. Except when we get placated by WIFOM reasoning.
If his partner is in my town or weaktown list, then I'm happy with three solid town reads to help with POE.
The main problem I have with this is that it seems so disconnected from why Wheme is scum. It's a convoluted reason to vote for Wheme.In post 3027, Kublai Khan wrote:Dude...In post 3022, JarJarDrinks wrote:I found this from a towngame.In post 367, TheRampage wrote:I am cool with being the Lynch, I am nothing special on this side.
You were *in* that towngame. You let me get all tunneled in and then you deflate it with meta you were quasi-aware of.
VOTE: WhemeStar
"Buzzwords are scumtells" -- TalyIn post 3591, Kublai Khan wrote:WIFOM.In post 3584, Creature wrote:If I really intended to preserve WhemeStar there I would've done PP instead saying it's better to mislynch a VT than doc.
Why does he not want to find his own example? It's not hard to find player games... Just seems odd to complain about a TR if you're not casing the person, although there are conftown that have done this too.In post 3600, Kublai Khan wrote:What the fuck.
Do people not actually read Creature posts?
Someone needs to link me to a scum-Creature game. All game people have been saying his scum game is obvious. And if it's somehow more obvious than this game, I have to see this for myself.
I still don't get why GR is town.In post 6340, Kublai Khan wrote:I re-read from 235 to 254.
Town:
Hopkirk
TehBrawlGuy
Myloninja13
Krazy
Skygazer
Ankamius
Golden Robster
Creature:
Creature
Not town:
Wavemode
Tchill13
JarJarDrinks
Gamma Emerald
Vaxkiller
If it weren't for Ankamius' spontaneous decision to announce her candidacy for town leader, she's probably be on the scum-side after that texcat lynch.
VOTE: vaxkiller
Highlights:
In post 3027, Kublai Khan wrote:Dude...In post 3022, JarJarDrinks wrote:I found this from a towngame.In post 367, TheRampage wrote:I am cool with being the Lynch, I am nothing special on this side.
You were *in* that towngame. You let me get all tunneled in and then you deflate it with meta you were quasi-aware of.
VOTE: WhemeStar
Scumread
Gamma Emerald
Spoiler:
Abilities:I'm a one man apocalypse
Take a Breather -- Able to recover from tactical nukes
Whole Hog -- Able to knock busses into his teammates
Scrap Gun -- Take down attack helicopters
If scum, here were some tells:
In post 1889, Gamma Emerald wrote:UNVOTE:
honestly the behavior after this slot claimed from a couple people makes me think it's town
is there any other wagon to performer (besides android)? I'll vote performer if it's literally the ONLY option, but if anything else is there I'll probably vote there.
(this is the next vote, a full REAL LIFE week later)In post 2488, Gamma Emerald wrote:[cut up this wall of text]
VOTE: Kublai Khan
I think this is a good case, and think that the points brought up are valid points.
GR's 2848 for context: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10310730In post 2839, Gamma Emerald wrote:Honestly I'm more in the mood to vote GoldRob out of those two, PP hasn't been towny per se but GR has been scummy
VOTE: Golden Robster
Also page 115: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... start=2850
Next vote is on PP about a day later.In post 2990, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: PenguinPower
For anyone thinking claiming VT makes the person less likely scum I personally think that's a crock of shit. If A50 were still here he'd back me up on VT claiming not being clearing.
In post 3954, Gamma Emerald wrote:UNVOTE:
Lalendra explained the issues I had and she seems genuine rn
This is 2 real life days after last unvote.In post 4073, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: myloninja
honestly all the actual content I've seen from him has been terrible
I'm done beating around the bush here
Highlights:
In post 3318, Gamma Emerald wrote:mhm thinking about it it's actually very similar to his first newbie and yet he's playing differentIn post 3275, JarJarDrinks wrote:So when your frustrated as town you care about what happens after you get lynched? When your not frustrated all you care about is surviving?In post 3267, WhemeStar wrote:and a game I self hammered as doctor because I was frustrated that people didn’t believe my claim because I didn’t claim flavor?
Get your bs out of here
nah fuck dis s*** I think wheme is actually scum
VOTE: Whemestar
In post 5983, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: texcat
eh after a mite of meta I think tex has a decent chance of being scum
Note: Wave's TC here involves Gamma being incisive and aggressive, which seems simply untenable if you look at the duration between votes and the nature of the pushes.
Golden Robster
Spoiler:
Setup Quotes:
"The True Struggle is for the Superiority of Ideas"
Abilities:
Shadow Shift -- can vanish from the game when scum is put to L-1
Biotic Orb -- Golden Robster can Heal or Destroy her teammates. The question is... who are her teammates?
If scum, these were the scum-tells:
In post 3288, Golden Robster wrote:in my head right now
wheme has a better chance of flipping red since claim is fake
but lynching PP is the better play here on the off-chance it isn't
it just depends on what you believe
Highlights: