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And that depends on whether Tayl0r even is town. If Tayl0r is scum we get 1 guaranteed scum death to 1 town death all in one day and thanks to this plan. VS eliminating in Shelly/TGP where we might eliminate wrong and waste a day and lose 2 town.

I would suicide here in Taylor's shoes. I'd put a last will with VCA and do just that.

In post 7074, MathBlade wrote:This is just “I refuse to be anti wincon”

We are explaining how this plan is objectively anti-wincon.
If you think it's not, explain objectively where in the math we've made a mistake. You're good at that right? I expected more straight logic from you and less "put yourself in her shoes".

In post 7077, NorwegianboyEE wrote:anti-wincon.

+wincon

In post 7071, Titus wrote:

In post 7070, MathBlade wrote:

In post 7064, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 7062, MathBlade wrote:You’re not asking why the masons only had one die last night.(yes yes not masons blah blah) what changed?

Why should i ask about that?

Because any shift should be poked prodded and explained.

Here Titus’s hood is literally giving free kills to scum. Kills they don’t have to make.

If we're so bad, why do scum kill us?

If Taylor is town, mislynching her is an objectively worse position than having her suicide right?

Breathing room, non alignment indicative kill,

I can give more than that if I brainstorm but there’s plenty o reasons.

No. Miseliminating her is 100% better if she is town because then one more Townie goes into night assuming the elim is also town.

You have to play this from a “What if I am wrong perspective?” Which quite frankly I don’t know if you’re capable of it.

In post 7079, MathBlade wrote:Miseliminating her is 100% better if she is town because then one more Townie goes into night assuming the elim is also town.

??
What are you smoking bro.

@Math, The what if we're wrong perspective is literally baked into the plan. If we're wrong on Taylor, she suicides, giving us new direction.

This is either a guaranteed scum elimination or a 50/50 scum elimination. That's the math.

In post 7080, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 7079, MathBlade wrote:Miseliminating her is 100% better if she is town because then one more Townie goes into night assuming the elim is also town.

??
What are you smoking bro.

13 alive. 1 mislynch + 2 town deaths = 3 deaths a day phase.

10 next day.

This is BAD, because of something I am not supposed to say fuckin damn it.

If I have to go into the numbers and do it for you then I have to say the thing I am not supposed to say.

We've basically used our hood to create a disloyal vig shot. If Tayl0r is town it's succesfull, if Tayl0r is scum it fails and we can safely eliminate them. If you think of it that way it's really just a clever play.
The only thing that's different is that we're asking the target to pull the trigger. Which they should if they are town as they are a part of the eventual PoE and might just become an miselimination later anyway.

In post 7081, Titus wrote:@Math, The what if we're wrong perspective is literally baked into the plan. If we're wrong on Taylor, she suicides, giving us new direction.

This is either a guaranteed scum elimination or a 50/50 scum elimination. That's the math.

Giving “US” new direction.
You did the same damn thing with April.
We eliminated them to give you a “new direction”

You’re so busy thinking mechanically you’re not playing the game.

I will say it again we are not your little chess pieces to move around.

This level of arrogance will cause you to lose.

It'd be an loyal vig shot actually, not disloyal.

In post 7083, NorwegianboyEE wrote:We've basically used our hood to create a disloyal vig shot. If Tayl0r is town it's succesfull, if Tayl0r is scum it fails and we can safely eliminate them. If you think of it that way it's really just a clever play.
The only thing that's different is that we're asking the target to pull the trigger. Which they should if they are town as they are a part of the eventual PoE and might just become an miselimination later anyway.

It’s clear that’s what YOU think of it as yes.

However you are completely incapable of seeing it from another person’s perspective.

We run the chance of losing if Taylor suicides and you’re wrong. Losing.

Because Titus and your hood can’t be bothered to wait?

I never take that deal and I know I am town.

In post 7085, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It'd be an loyal vig shot actually, not disloyal.

Loyal to you, disloyal to Titus

And scum!Taylor never rejects imho she just forgets to submit it you silly peoples.

In post 7084, MathBlade wrote:

In post 7081, Titus wrote:@Math, The what if we're wrong perspective is literally baked into the plan. If we're wrong on Taylor, she suicides, giving us new direction.

This is either a guaranteed scum elimination or a 50/50 scum elimination. That's the math.

Giving “US” new direction.
You did the same damn thing with April.
We eliminated them to give you a “new direction”

You’re so busy thinking mechanically you’re not playing the game.

I will say it again we are not your little chess pieces to move around.

This level of arrogance will cause you to lose.

US is the collective town. Any slot using a hidden ability to harm scum is a good thing.

I picked Taylor because she was the most talkative and likely to understand basic logic. That's likely why she peaced out as Nero said.

Thinking mechanically is playing the game.

No one says to a cop guilty, stop thinking mechanically.

Taylor was scummy in my VCA. She had scummy interactions with Gamma. She was my pick for scum in the 3.

In post 7087, MathBlade wrote:

In post 7085, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It'd be an loyal vig shot actually, not disloyal.

Loyal to you, disloyal to Titus

And scum!Taylor never rejects imho she just forgets to submit it you silly peoples.

Her literal response, was I'll do it later.

In post 7089, Titus wrote:Her literal response, was I'll do it later.

More specifically: "i'll do it tommorow"

As in the next day.

Hahaha Us is the collective town. Good one. Start a comedy tour.

Likely to understand basic logic my butt. You don’t understand basic logic.

I have told you, Bell has told you.

Your hood doesn’t want to see it’s own fucking flaws.

Me +Bell +Taylor is a literal impossibility. Therefore at least one of us has to be town telling you town never suicides.

Instead of declaring how right you are in spite of evidence go back and look.

In post 7091, NorwegianboyEE wrote:As in the next day.

This assuming I take your hood’s word for it (I don’t) is “tomorrow morning”. It was fucking midnight when I was posting. Miss Swift if American was also up late

In post 7089, Titus wrote:

In post 7087, MathBlade wrote:

In post 7085, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It'd be an loyal vig shot actually, not disloyal.

Loyal to you, disloyal to Titus

And scum!Taylor never rejects imho she just forgets to submit it you silly peoples.

Her literal response, was I'll do it later.

You said she resisted.

Now she didn’t.

Make up your fucking mind.

This story is tissue paper.

No they referred to specifically "after we've had an elimination first" day.

In post 7095, NorwegianboyEE wrote:No they referred to specifically "after we've had an elimination first" day.

This.

Later was after we executed.

Taylor just wants a mislynch before dying.

*misexecute

In post 7095, NorwegianboyEE wrote:No they referred to specifically "after we've had an elimination first" day.

So then they are still resisting no?

Which is Townie as scum wouldn’t resist.

I fail to see your point here.

I said as scum she wouldn’t resist and just lie.

She here seems to still be resisting.

In post 7096, Titus wrote:

In post 7095, NorwegianboyEE wrote:No they referred to specifically "after we've had an elimination first" day.

This.

Later was after we executed.

Taylor just wants a mislynch before dying.

Say what? You said suicide before EoD. Now you’re saying she can do it later

I am so confused by your story atm.