Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[Taly]

Ehh true

I still don't quite follow what makes you clear Ydra, though, Peta

I believe you're both town and my solve is correct, but for the game's sake and TW as a replacement, you might want to towncase her.

[petapan]

1. i'm fairly confident in my associative reads of her with flipped scum
2. her play doesn't really make sense from a scum perspective, where she's been doing nothing but positioning herself to lose the game for multiple phases, but does make significantly more sense from an uninformed perspective

[Taly]

Wait what am I saying you have a point

Ydra-scum doesn't try to burn unwnd-town the stake for dancing around suspicion on her only to jump on Toog-toen in the duel

And Ydra/Ggy cannot possibly be S/S

So Ydra-town was just correct about unwnd and that fizzled because it was a town perspective of indignation.

[Ydrasse]

when i am mafia i am cool and smart when i am town i am incompetent

[Taly]

Yeah {Peta/Taly/Ydra/TW} is the lock imo

[Taly]

I don't think TW scum enters endgame to WK a doomed slot especially when it's such a different perspective he's taken from me in games.

He gains effectively nothing by this stance, no?

[petapan]

i can go into more detail but don't really want to lay all my cards on the table unless it's necessary

[petapan]

I don't think TW scum enters endgame to WK a doomed slot especially when it's such a different perspective he's taken from me in games.

He gains effectively nothing by this stance, no?

that

entirely makes sense from the perspective of someone who is informed but has absolutely no knowledge of the gamestate


i'm not saying it

has

to be the case, but

i don't think it's clearing and i think at this point you're just confirmation biasing every new piece of information to support your interpretation of the game

[petapan]

when i am mafia i am cool and smart when i am town i am incompetent

god same

[Taly]

That is possible dodjdjslnsbsonqbswlssjudsodkdhdlwddjsosphxhxnaoayxksusslslshsjdmsosjsjsnshd nothing else computes

[Taly]

Help

[Taly]

I've never flailed so much as town

[petapan]

it's significantly harder to keep burying a slot you know will flip town

not impossible for a good player, of course

but, see, for instance, event #4

harley entered the game and gave a woe is me both choices are town verdict, frankly far sooner than she should have been able to, because she knew what the outcome would be and was posturing to look good regardless of the outcome

as scum the inclination is to want to make yourself look "correct" about how the flip is going to go because you want your view of the game to seem credible. if you keep digging in when they've already resigned themselves to death you look foolish after and there is a worry people won't want to listen to you.


whereas even though i agreed infinity was probably flipping town i couldn't bring myself to say clear them if i die, i couldn't shake that lingering doubt i had in spite of everything. that's what having an uninformed perspective is.

[petapan]

if anything i feel like tw may have came on a bit

too

strong in that opening but that is my own subjective bias at play and, as i said


i don't read a lot into what people do and say in this phase


the answer is in the backlogs, it just has to be found

[Taly]

*hisses and claws at peta*

[petapan]

i'm just laying out an entire thesis this phase

[petapan]

*hisses and claws at peta*

[petapan]

for context here's worst repping into a game late as solo scum

here's a midgame town replacement

here's another midgame town replacement

presented without comment, draw your own conclusions if you like, he's clearly a competent player so any scum play is going to be mimicking his town play to an extent

[Taly]

Yes I'm well aware of ducks capabilities because we have quite the history

We have always been either T/S where the NK the other first feasible chance and have both won our respective games like this as scum

T/T where we 1v1 tunnel, and/or die a phase after the other

So I'm not a duck whisperer so I'm intrigued how this will turn out

[Taly]

It's like how Titus/I tend to die one after the other in games. (Which is technically true here)

But I have difficulty getting footing in how to read a player just like with S_S

And yet that uncertainty is mutual

Smashed into one player

[Taly]

Oh and the tunneling capacity and likelihood is at a maximum compared to other players

[Taly]

I like playing mafia with duck haha

[Taly]

hmmm

Would you say I'm a competent player peta?

[petapan]

i generally don't judge people off one game but you're clearly good at string words together (which is why i was reluctant to clear you)

[Taly]

YEAH I'M A BADASS TOWNIE

SCUM AIN'T GOT SHIT ON ME