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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:34 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 7061, RCEnigma wrote:Whyyyyy. Why would we no lim? Are we serious?

1.)why are we that certain Taly or ceph both flip town?

2.) why can we not just have a flip. If the game was smaller I get it, but there is a point where this ‘save every townie’ mentality is not a benefit to town.

I'm fine with flipping Taly or Cephrir but someone has to make an actual case/push with teeth and have accountability.

Flipping a player because "this person over here is townier" gets us 0 information

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:34 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 7074, Lukewarm wrote:I fundamentally disagree with the logic being presented.

make a case for Taly being scum then

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:36 am
by RCEnigma
VLA till day 2….

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:37 am
by T-Bone
In post 7021, Rad wrote:That said, again, I'll vote ceph over taly here if I choose to vote because an any alignment ceph flip at least heals town and a town!Taly flip absolutely destroys it. I don't think we see a scum flip in either of the 2 options so I'd only go for that if I conclude that it's just the smarter town move due to "stats/theory reasons", or if I convince myself that this town needs a ceph flip to progress.
I think Rad is now my strongest town read. Go Rad!

I just quoted this part of the post so that my post wouldn't be so long. I just think overall this post shows me good town thought processes. I'm finding the gladiate time weirdly productive for read reevaluations.

My town read on Frog has significantly weakened in the last 12 hours that it's no longer a town lean. I'm just not sure if that is recency bias or not. Who else was town reading or leaning Frogster? Luke you were yeah?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:37 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
luke was spamming to kill frogster literally every page

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:38 am
by T-Bone
Fuck got my names messed up.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:40 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
the people townreading frogster are:

BBT
MalcolmTucker
Rad
RCE
Bellaphant
Klick
Bell
CSF
Tbone

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:40 am
by T-Bone
Wow can't believe I got Luke mixed up with Bell what a scumclaim.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:41 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 7075, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 7061, RCEnigma wrote:Whyyyyy. Why would we no lim? Are we serious?

1.)why are we that certain Taly or ceph both flip town?

2.) why can we not just have a flip. If the game was smaller I get it, but there is a point where this ‘save every townie’ mentality is not a benefit to town.

I'm fine with flipping Taly or Cephrir but someone has to make an actual case/push with teeth and have accountability.

Flipping a player because "this person over here is townier" gets us 0 information
+1

This. I want Bell to paraphrase what went on in his pt. I’m not going to base anything off of he’s their neighbour.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:42 am
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 6919, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:and one last thing

I do not care how fucking long this game takes

I care about killing scum

because killing scum is the only fucking way to end this game

so saying shit like OH ITS GOOD THAT WE R GOING TO ELIMINATE TOWN AND FINALLY END THE DAY

is fucking ass backwards because eliminating town does not make the game shorter it just means we start all over again tommorrow with the same number of fucking scum to eliminate
T O W N

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:42 am
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 7081, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the people townreading frogster are:

BBT
MalcolmTucker
Rad
RCE
Bellaphant
Klick
Bell
CSF
Tbone
Yet you defend CSF, smh.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:43 am
by ProfessorDrapion
Just remember Pooky.
Frog and CSF wolf spews Dunn wolf.
Trust me on that.


Also trust me when I say Frog/Math HAS to contain a wolf it is exactly TvM.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:44 am
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 7078, T-Bone wrote:
In post 7021, Rad wrote:That said, again, I'll vote ceph over taly here if I choose to vote because an any alignment ceph flip at least heals town and a town!Taly flip absolutely destroys it. I don't think we see a scum flip in either of the 2 options so I'd only go for that if I conclude that it's just the smarter town move due to "stats/theory reasons", or if I convince myself that this town needs a ceph flip to progress.
I think Rad is now my strongest town read. Go Rad!

I just quoted this part of the post so that my post wouldn't be so long. I just think overall this post shows me good town thought processes. I'm finding the gladiate time weirdly productive for read reevaluations.

My town read on Frog has significantly weakened in the last 12 hours that it's no longer a town lean. I'm just not sure if that is recency bias or not. Who else was town reading or leaning Frogster? Luke you were yeah?
Yeah that Rad post was actually really good.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:44 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 7082, T-Bone wrote:Wow can't believe I got Luke mixed up with Bell what a scumclaim.
Why are you being so defensive? This is like the second post now and no one is even accusing you of anything?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:45 am
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 7075, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 7061, RCEnigma wrote:Whyyyyy. Why would we no lim? Are we serious?

1.)why are we that certain Taly or ceph both flip town?

2.) why can we not just have a flip. If the game was smaller I get it, but there is a point where this ‘save every townie’ mentality is not a benefit to town.

I'm fine with flipping Taly or Cephrir but someone has to make an actual case/push with teeth and have accountability.

Flipping a player because "this person over here is townier" gets us 0 information

Taly gives us nothing
A Cephrir wolf flip solves the entire game.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:45 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 7086, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Frog and CSF wolf spews Dunn wolf.
dunn basically claimed friendly neighbor already

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:45 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 7084, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 6919, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:and one last thing

I do not care how fucking long this game takes

I care about killing scum

because killing scum is the only fucking way to end this game

so saying shit like OH ITS GOOD THAT WE R GOING TO ELIMINATE TOWN AND FINALLY END THE DAY

is fucking ass backwards because eliminating town does not make the game shorter it just means we start all over again tommorrow with the same number of fucking scum to eliminate
T O W N
In other news, water is wet. :lol:

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:46 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 7088, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 7082, T-Bone wrote:Wow can't believe I got Luke mixed up with Bell what a scumclaim.
Why are you being so defensive? This is like the second post now and no one is even accusing you of anything?
tbone is probly just mafia having fun trolling

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:47 am
by Bell
Sure.

1. Toog: Asked us to be understanding of their condition. Asked me to summarize the game as a favor since they can't keep up. Asked if I knew anything about their role. additionally, they stated they only knew that I was their neighbor not hat my alignment was.

2. Taly: Apologized for outing us as neighbors. Said helo.
They asked what I thought of Tbone. Acknowledged trust was low in slot.

Ah I have to go will switch to phone post this part.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:48 am
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 7092, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 7088, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 7082, T-Bone wrote:Wow can't believe I got Luke mixed up with Bell what a scumclaim.
Why are you being so defensive? This is like the second post now and no one is even accusing you of anything?
tbone is probly just mafia having fun trolling
Also wasn’t afraid to open wolf when I was talking with them.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:48 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Cephrir gladiated Taly because he polled some people and concluded Taly is the right person to gladiate.

So I want Cephrir or the people that he polled that recommended Taly

to come here and case Taly and make a push.

I think it's a basic responsibility to everyone else playing this game that if you are going to try to eliminate someone that you actually make a compelling case why.

"cephrir is townier" is not a reasonable subsitute for "taly is scum"

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:49 am
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 7095, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Cephrir gladiated Taly because he polled some people and concluded Taly is the right person to gladiate.

So I want Cephrir or the people that he polled that recommended Taly

to come here and case Taly and make a push.

I think it's a basic responsibility to everyone else playing this game that if you are going to try to eliminate someone that you actually make a compelling case why.

"cephrir is townier" is not a reasonable subsitute for "taly is scum"

Funny that T-Bone had completely opposite reads of me.
Maybe Wolf.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:50 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 6382, Cephrir wrote:luke
DP=taly, johnny=math

Bone
taly dp johnny math

csf
johnny taly math dp

pd
math johnny puppets taly

pooky
math johnny taly dp


TALY 2.5+3+2+0+1 = 8.5
JOHNNY .5+1+3+2+2 = 8.5

i hate u all

since T-Bone is the person polled who had Taly at #1 on his kill wishlist.

I think it's only fair he make the case for why Taly should die.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:51 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I am also willing to conditionally vote for Taly on the condition that we eliminate T-Bone immediately tommorrow if Taly flips town.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:52 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
oh I just noticed Luke and Tbone both protecting math

Luke Tbone Mathblade Frogster scum team kill them all