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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:57 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
kind of surprising me off the cuff a bit here cabd me boyo but not much to be done, i guess i'm playing nice lol
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:59 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 7124, Almost50 wrote:You think Scum!Pooky who was (still is) very likely to eat rope; and has nothing better to so, would be spared by his team and they risk sending someone else to do th kill?
i need to process response for a bit for various reasons
-b
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:59 pm
by petapan
In post 7114, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:target selection of pooky over a50 and your reasons for the pooky push inducing more apathy into the thread is the most recent reason, but I'm not sure why I need to explain myself to you
well i'd like to dispute your arguments. i've tried to explain why i don't think almost50 isn't scummy, and i admit this may be very bad mistake on my part. defending a50 here as scum would basically offer no benefit to me whatsoever, though. i just don't really trust any of the people casing him. pooky wasn't my first choice vote but i was willing to compromise because i'm willing to listen to the people who want him dead. i did think how he started this day off was scummy. i know you say he's town but i don't trust you so i don't have reason to follow that read.
and i'm probably wrong on some of the people scumreading me but idk what i can do about that. you, pooky, and spiffeh are voting me for reactive, emotional reasons, and if i was looking at it objectively firebringer is probably the scummiest vote there because he's just blind sheeping you but on overall reactions this game hasnt seemed scum so idk what to think.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:00 pm
by petapan
VOTE: pooky
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:02 pm
by skitter30
heya i'm around a bit now! fire if you wanna bicker!
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:02 pm
by Dandelion Wine
In post 7125, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:kind of surprising me off the cuff a bit here cabd me boyo but not much to be done, i guess i'm playing nice lol
I don't recall seeing you like this in quite some time. But okay.
We know his claim and nobody counterclaimed him yeah? Does that some effect, a lot of effect, or no effect on your read?
Do you think that peta scum makes anyone here or the other side expliclty town as impossible to be a partner?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:04 pm
by Deacon Blues
that a50 response is probably a sign that my pet hypothesis is just wrong
-b
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:05 pm
by Deacon Blues
LLD do you strongly feel like your Pooky test was something he'd not know how to respond to as scum?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:06 pm
by Dandelion Wine
Where do you think your (un)votes belong?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:06 pm
by petapan
In post 7122, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: In post 7118, Dandelion Wine wrote:Uhhhh sure I guess.
When did you start reading peta as scum, and was it always intense or was it something that built gradually over time? Was there a specific catalyst or set of posts to this read?
Like... Walk me through the mommy stork and the daddy stork that loved each other very much and made this read.
Day 1 I was heavy on the peta town train cause my dude really hit all the notes I wanted. He was charismatic, needed answers and wasn't interested in being snowed by anyone. It felt like he had townie mentality.
But as the days went on... more or less after the FL elimination and no one stopping it, I was super jaded. FL was a huge town read of mine, as you know. So I began looking at the people in power. I fake shot you to get reads on you and Deacon, and I tried mindmelding with Peta to get stuff there.
Peta and I being unable to connect... and Peta only wanting to talk about his read on me, gave me a bad worrying taste. I was worried he was gonna setup into day 3.
So I resolved, day 3, if Peta came out swinging after day 1 and 2 not stopping FL elimnation and being kind of passive day 2, I was gonna hard suspect it.
He came out swinging at me and when it got no traction, look where he ended up.
Pushy apathy style at Pooky rn.
It just lines up too perfectly from a Peta scum who feels in control and gets to do what he likes.
So that's when I got there. It was the way Peta handled things and the results we got. Someone in power is scum and made FL happen. If it's not you or Deacon, it's Peta.
i mean functionally i didn't really make FL happen, i made a bad argument that mostly got ignored, took a nap, woke up to pooky hardshoving him but didn't dispute it despite my fear because i was really sick of day 1. i did not anticipate FL selfhammering to end the day though.
suspecting me because we don't see eye to eye is fair though, i get it
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:06 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 7130, Dandelion Wine wrote: In post 7125, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:kind of surprising me off the cuff a bit here cabd me boyo but not much to be done, i guess i'm playing nice lol
I don't recall seeing you like this in quite some time. But okay.
We know his claim and nobody counterclaimed him yeah? Does that some effect, a lot of effect, or no effect on your read?
Do you think that peta scum makes anyone here or the other side expliclty town as impossible to be a partner?
If Peta is scum, SB9 is town. That's my biggest one. I happen to think SB9 is v. town, and don't think Peta can be town with the way he pushed SB9 either.
Mechanically.... Peta's paired person would be town but is also dead. Maybe makes at most 1 other power role pair person scum?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:07 pm
by skitter30
In post 6849, Firebringer wrote:
skitter. I would have more fun making u paranoid than her by trolling u in game. scum me doesn't really enjoy messing with skitter.
plus then i get to awkwardly flirt with skitter in the main thread and see how she responds which would be hilarious.
<3
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:08 pm
by Dandelion Wine
This isn't how I recall it but now I've got MORE reading home work.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:10 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 7132, Deacon Blues wrote:LLD do you strongly feel like your Pooky test was something he'd not know how to respond to as scum?
Incredibly. Willing to bet my life on it, honestly.
Pooky had no reason to know where and what I wanted him to do, but if he were scum I have a confident idea of what I think he would think I would think is town.
I know that sounds confusing but it's super simple to me. Pooky knows me and I know Pooky, so I'm using that to double blind his reaction in a way, and it was town.
Very very confident. Like you->cabd levels of "i'm in the bear's head".
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:12 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 3828, petapan wrote:regardless of pooky's alignment what a power move. i'm uh, concerned? at the speed of this. but my philosophy has been "get the day over with" and i'm not going to change that now that i'm apparently getting what i wanted
i remember initially townreading the heck out of this post, fwiw, but my acknowledge that it's kind of a weak tell
-b
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:12 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 7135, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: In post 7130, Dandelion Wine wrote: In post 7125, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:kind of surprising me off the cuff a bit here cabd me boyo but not much to be done, i guess i'm playing nice lol
I don't recall seeing you like this in quite some time. But okay.
We know his claim and nobody counterclaimed him yeah? Does that some effect, a lot of effect, or no effect on your read?
Do you think that peta scum makes anyone here or the other side expliclty town as impossible to be a partner?
If Peta is scum, SB9 is town. That's my biggest one. I happen to think SB9 is v. town, and don't think Peta can be town with the way he pushed SB9 either.
Mechanically.... Peta's paired person would be town but is also dead. Maybe makes at most 1 other power role pair person scum?
SB's play upon arriving in the forwards thread really bothered me, as did his low activity here after being purple-roomed. Dunn's argument that he's looked like lost town over there does resonate, though.
Does town SB fake a threat to self-hammer?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:12 pm
by Dandelion Wine
i finished reading everything and have nothing particularly thrilling to add at the moment.
-ceph
pedit please don't bet your life on mafia reads
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:13 pm
by petapan
i don't really know. i'm still unvoting lld and spiffeh. tried getting in spiffehs head earlier and he basically slapped me away i think because he was still taking what i said as a personal insult. i don't really have reads.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:14 pm
by Dandelion Wine
on this subject, i thought this was pretty obviously not real because of him pushing "if you're wrong it's you tomorrow gypyx" just clearly made no sense from sb9's reads and had no reasonable enforcement mechanism. so basically it was not an impressive variant of his usual "poke stuff and see what happens" strategy
-ceph
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:15 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 7140, Deacon Blues wrote: In post 7135, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: In post 7130, Dandelion Wine wrote: In post 7125, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:kind of surprising me off the cuff a bit here cabd me boyo but not much to be done, i guess i'm playing nice lol
I don't recall seeing you like this in quite some time. But okay.
We know his claim and nobody counterclaimed him yeah? Does that some effect, a lot of effect, or no effect on your read?
Do you think that peta scum makes anyone here or the other side expliclty town as impossible to be a partner?
If Peta is scum, SB9 is town. That's my biggest one. I happen to think SB9 is v. town, and don't think Peta can be town with the way he pushed SB9 either.
Mechanically.... Peta's paired person would be town but is also dead. Maybe makes at most 1 other power role pair person scum?
SB's play upon arriving in the forwards thread really bothered me, as did his low activity here after being purple-roomed. Dunn's argument that he's looked like lost town over there does resonate, though.
Does town SB fake a threat to self-hammer?
If you're asking this, you're assuming too much from a meta perspective? I don't know the dude, so I've no idea if that's in his range in that sense.
That said, from what I know of him, and how he has handled and conducted himself sofar this game?
it's in range. I'm not perturbed. SB9 is shaken and all fucked up over there and doing wacky shit. I'm not flinching from my read and it doesn't shake me here.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:15 pm
by petapan
if i'm wrong then my own memory is at fault but i don't deny basically acquiescing to it
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:15 pm
by Deacon Blues
don't really see any evidence of this. he just called you scum for slapping him away
-b
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:16 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 7143, Dandelion Wine wrote:
on this subject, i thought this was pretty obviously not real because of him pushing "if you're wrong it's you tomorrow gypyx" just clearly made no sense from sb9's reads and had no reasonable enforcement mechanism. so basically it was not an impressive variant of his usual "poke stuff and see what happens" strategy
-ceph
ye this is kind of where i'm at
he's doing the thing he did day 1 with me
but it's on day 3, which would normally be bad
but he's gotten thread switched and needs to re-calibrate himself to new reads and shit
so it makes perfect sense with the pressure he's getting
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:17 pm
by Firebringer
In post 7112, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:FB, I know I was angry when I voted peta before
but what if I said i was p. very confident peta was scum despite me benig angy and wanted him dead today
i still think he is town LLD.
u got my vote though. i also think pooky more likely scum than peta but we just going with ur lead here not me.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:18 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 7144, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: In post 7140, Deacon Blues wrote: In post 7135, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: In post 7130, Dandelion Wine wrote: In post 7125, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:kind of surprising me off the cuff a bit here cabd me boyo but not much to be done, i guess i'm playing nice lol
I don't recall seeing you like this in quite some time. But okay.
We know his claim and nobody counterclaimed him yeah? Does that some effect, a lot of effect, or no effect on your read?
Do you think that peta scum makes anyone here or the other side expliclty town as impossible to be a partner?
If Peta is scum, SB9 is town. That's my biggest one. I happen to think SB9 is v. town, and don't think Peta can be town with the way he pushed SB9 either.
Mechanically.... Peta's paired person would be town but is also dead. Maybe makes at most 1 other power role pair person scum?
SB's play upon arriving in the forwards thread really bothered me, as did his low activity here after being purple-roomed. Dunn's argument that he's looked like lost town over there does resonate, though.
Does town SB fake a threat to self-hammer?
If you're asking this, you're assuming too much from a meta perspective? I don't know the dude, so I've no idea if that's in his range in that sense.
That said, from what I know of him, and how he has handled and conducted himself sofar this game?
it's in range. I'm not perturbed. SB9 is shaken and all fucked up over there and doing wacky shit. I'm not flinching from my read and it doesn't shake me here.
I thought it was far more likely coming from town than scum in a generic-bombastic-player model , but this is the first game I've played with him, so aside from skimming some games of his after unwnd expressed concerns day 1, I'm strictly going on what he's doing in this game.