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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:02 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
sorry, I'm drained atm

rough work week + other obligations being a stresser

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:08 am
by skitter30
In post 7145, Kaiji wrote:
In post 7137, catboi wrote:
In post 6979, skitter30 wrote:upon seeing the enchant vig flip, i got reminded that kaiji slipped they arent vig. To my utter frustration and annoyance, they are probably town (and probably my strongest tr at this point)
how does that make kaiji town, I don't get it
why are none of the people who expressed suspicion of me dead?
I mean, do u actually think i kill you as scum last night?

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:09 am
by skitter30
In post 7156, Kaiji wrote:I'd find it much more liklier that since Skitter was pushing catboi, and I was pushing mena/enchant at the time - in a town!skitter world - that he felt demotivated because 2 scum members were under heavy fire from strong players.
Ig i just find it more likely that town-him gets demotivated than scum-him

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:11 am
by skitter30
I still think its alyssa

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:13 am
by Datisi
*pops in*
has alyssa explained that one thing that someone asked of her that i thought was interesting?

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:14 am
by skitter30
Which one thing?

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:15 am
by Datisi
In post 7138, skitter30 wrote:
In post 7124, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 7122, skitter30 wrote:and again, my whole mo as scum is 'clean trajectories'. I dont devise a messy elo where i need to push someone with 'reasoning that doesnt stand up to scrutiny'
I'm just going to put this out there

This only makes the idea that I'm your only push worse
Y

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:27 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
it's hard to have a clean trajectory on somebody that isn't me in this game

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:30 am
by skitter30
I'm still not following

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:32 am
by Kaiji
who is alyssa's partner

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:32 am
by skitter30
I dont know

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:38 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
In post 7127, Kaiji wrote:alyssa can you describe your progression on skitter slot please
Generically town initially due to relative activity+engagement

Sometime later in D2 I caught on to her defending Andante in a very "I know she's town" type of way, figured it was because she was cop with an inno on Andante and didn't want to out her role

Just townbinned both of the two for the rest of D2, I was trying to send a signal that I caught on to what she was doing but I don't remember if I actually did or not, I think I did, got questioned about it, and decided not to follow up

D3 I found out she wasn't a cop since her trajectory on Andante didn't align with it, realized that I'd just been townbinning on her based on that and reset

Figured out she was scumreading me for really odd reasons, she had no read on specifically me despite that only ever having happened before in a town her/scum me world where I was perpetually staying in the background (aka not this). This is never how she has acted towards me before in a TvT world and her responses to me poking about this were very lackluster

I decided to give her space anyways since our one other game together was TvT where we had very lukewarm reads towards each other (I died N1 after replacing in halfway through the day so it's not that strong) and it being a year and a half before that since the last time I had any interaction with her in a game

Pretty much maintained that nullish scum read throughout

Eventually turned that into a full scum read when I realized that this blunt indecisiveness/lack of confidence with consistent engagements that go nowhere makes the most sense for scum to have as a strategy for a game that has this many posts and no real progress being made

Starting today I backed off mainly because I trust my townreads in this game more than my scumreads. It simply makes more sense to try to find all the town rather than find all the scum

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:39 am
by Something_Smart
In post 7186, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Sometime later in D2 I caught on to her defending Andante in a very "I know she's town" type of way, figured it was because she was cop with an inno on Andante and didn't want to out her role

Just townbinned both of the two for the rest of D2, I was trying to send a signal that I caught on to what she was doing but I don't remember if I actually did or not, I think I did, got questioned about it, and decided not to follow up
oh this makes a lot of sense

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:40 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
I hope so, I'm pretty sure I did mention it when the townread went away

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:40 am
by skitter30
In post 7186, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Sometime later in D2 I caught on to her defending Andante in a very "I know she's town" type of way, figured it was because she was cop with an inno on Andante and didn't want to out her role
It was cuz i knew she was telling the truth abt her role (i.e. i'm vt) and with the way she was playing thought she was v town, + thought she actually picked tracker and didnt think scum picked tracker in that bracket

Pedit u did mention it. Yeah

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:41 am
by skitter30
In post 7186, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Figured out she was scumreading me for really odd reasons, she had no read on specifically me despite that only ever having happened before in a town her/scum me world where I was perpetually staying in the background (aka not this). This is never how she has acted towards me before in a TvT world and her responses to me poking about this were very lackluster
- i do think you've been staying in the background (i.e. not driving things yourself, but letting other people drive things)
- not sure why this is scum-indicative for me

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:43 am
by skitter30
In post 7186, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Starting today I backed off mainly because I trust my townreads in this game more than my scumreads. It simply makes more sense to try to find all the town rather than find all the scum
I mean i find this dubious but ok

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:44 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
this isn't 2019 anymore

and I was never a fan of the playstyle of just hard shoving all your scumreads through

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:47 am
by skitter30
I'm confused why you think its scummy of me to be scumreading you when you're playing similarly to a game where you were scum and town-me scumread you

Full disclosure i do not presently remember that game

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:50 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
A game where I went out of my way to be forgettable so I could kill you before you could push the game in a direction I could control, yes

This is a pretty far cry from that considering I was pushing my own reads way more and shoving myself into the spotlight

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:50 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
This was the mustard micro

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:50 am
by skitter30
What game are we even talking abt >.>

Pedit thanks

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:56 am
by skitter30
You had the same trajectory on me there as you've had these padt 2 days so ...

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:13 am
by skitter30
In post 7194, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:and shoving myself into the spotlight
Also where do u think u did this .. ?

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:37 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
I'm not seeing a reason to continue this engagement