In post 5154, petapan wrote:anyway gamma i'm compromising enough, you get 2 in the PoE that i don't agree on, let me have my stance on her
Also, I’m not an object and no one speaks for me in this game. You don’t get your say on me regardless of what that is, no one does. I am far less upset about the bad srs then being
disrespected by both you and gooey
. I have never been treated that way in any game ever and the lack of direct interaction with my slot is really messing with me. I feel like I’m sometimes being discussed like I’m either not actually a player in this game or somehow treated as subhuman. I know people don’t understand why that affects me so strongly but it’s starting to adversely affect my mental health.
continue to talk about me like I’m some piece of merchandise, I might eventually lose it. So, I’m very respectfully asking both of you to stop doing that or I can’t tolerate it for much longer. Thank you.
i guess i'm like...
i'm loathe to bring This up but i'm confused about where this stuff with gooey actually happened or why his name is being thrown about by harley because i don't think gooey like... really talked about her much at all during this time period? it's like literally just stuff that didn't happen and i am ??
Harley I know you've got an ungodly amount of reading in front of you and I don't/won't begrudge you for skipping around, but "two dueling scum is unlikely" is some of the laziest analysis I've heard in a while
Maybe start 10/15 pages back from the duel participants getting chosen and read from there? Or start with the blue PT where Infinity was chosen as an execution nominee for this event and see if you get any reads from that?
In post 4398, Gammagooey wrote:@Gemerald- yeah Cakez did want peta/Dunn specifically for at least a bit
@Taly- peta I just like for his day 1 posting I think. His Blue PT posting was good too but I specifically read over his day 1 posting before voting to yeet Infinity over him and it just seemed like he was casually scumhunting and regular ass townposting
I feel like I just want to leave Skitter/SaberXHarley/Toog/??? uncrossed unless vast amounts of goodposting occurs from them soon. Cakez will probably fight me on Skitter/Saber but I do want to know why he's townreading them so that's fine
In post 4487, Gammagooey wrote:Hey Harley, have anyone you definitely want to leave out from crossing at the moment?
In post 4638, Gammagooey wrote:I might re-read Gypyx and Ydrasse a bit tonight/tomorrow (Toog I disagree with being on the survive list for now but I could maybe deal with it for a skitter+harley death)
Ulyana I'd be fine with voting across first, Cakez I'm pretty fine w/ too atm
For the most part yeah, and definitely about skitter & Saber
On Skitter - Her latching onto 'No more than 1 scum in Pink' and 'something fucky happened in the Blue PT' without seeing the blue PT herself I dislike a LOT. It seemed like really shallow logic that she wouldn't give up on, and focusing on that instead of her actual reasons to find peta scummy outside of that just seemed like filler posting to me.
Saber I just reread a bit of and Harley's posting now is both a) better than it was last event when it was just random thoughts based on borderline no reading at all and b) still not good enough to not be faked by scum or to outweigh what I think looks slightly sketchy from Saber's posts regarding Dunn - Saber had Dunn as a 2nd from the bottom tier read for a while but didn't bother voting him until there were major wagons on both him & Toog, and early-game had a few statements/comments that redirected people away from Dunn.
Ydrasse I like their posting this event but I still want to reread her and most people I townread more than her
Toog I'm probably fiiiine with not dying today but I don't think the Dunn/Toog interactions are impossible to fake and if he doesn't contribute actual posting in future events either I will try my damnedest to chuck him into the nearest meatgrinder before whatever this game's equivalent of LYLO is
oh jesus there are like 20 posts that happened while I was typing this
In post 4916, Gammagooey wrote:Saber I just reread a bit of and Harley's posting now is both a) better than it was last event when it was just random thoughts based on borderline no reading at all and b) still not good enough to not be faked by scum or to outweigh what I think looks slightly sketchy from Saber's posts regarding Dunn - Saber had Dunn as a 2nd from the bottom tier read for a while but didn't bother voting him until there were major wagons on both him & Toog, and early-game had a few statements/comments that redirected people away from Dunn.
For the most part yeah, and definitely about skitter & Saber
On Skitter - Her latching onto 'No more than 1 scum in Pink' and 'something fucky happened in the Blue PT' without seeing the blue PT herself I dislike a LOT. It seemed like really shallow logic that she wouldn't give up on, and focusing on that instead of her actual reasons to find peta scummy outside of that just seemed like filler posting to me.
Saber I just reread a bit of and Harley's posting now is both a) better than it was last event when it was just random thoughts based on borderline no reading at all and b) still not good enough to not be faked by scum or to outweigh what I think looks slightly sketchy from Saber's posts regarding Dunn - Saber had Dunn as a 2nd from the bottom tier read for a while but didn't bother voting him until there were major wagons on both him & Toog, and early-game had a few statements/comments that redirected people away from Dunn.
Ydrasse I like their posting this event but I still want to reread her and most people I townread more than her
Toog I'm probably fiiiine with not dying today but I don't think the Dunn/Toog interactions are impossible to fake and if he doesn't contribute actual posting in future events either I will try my damnedest to chuck him into the nearest meatgrinder before whatever this game's equivalent of LYLO is
oh jesus there are like 20 posts that happened while I was typing this
In post 4916, Gammagooey wrote:Her latching onto 'No more than 1 scum in Pink' and 'something fucky happened in the Blue PT' without seeing the blue PT herself I dislike a LOT. It seemed like really shallow logic that she wouldn't give up on, and focusing on that instead of her actual reasons to find peta scummy outside of that just seemed like filler posting to me.
i mean true, i didn't see the blue pt, but i saw the pink pt and i was basing my understanding of the game from what i saw there
and i take issue with the fact that you're saying i was focusing more on the pt than why i found peta scummy, and i also described my peta read above more
In post 5074, Harley Quinn wrote:<peta stuff>
I don’t need to post every single thought that goes through my head. I think that both Peta and especially googey talking about me but never affording me the respect of directly interacting with me is not okay but at least Peta bothers to shade me by name but never quotes a single post why but whatever, I’m over it.
This is...pretty clearly not true? We interacted v. directly when we talked about you thinking the Toog/Dunn wagons meant Toog was town.
I can see how it might feel like I'm being a bit dismissive of you, but I think you're pretty likely scum compared to the rest of the players here and your reads feel more reactive than based on actual reading of the game before your entrance, which I don't view as particularly helpful. To answer your question from earlier I could see you as scum with almost all of the playerlist if I assumed that those other particular player(s) were scum (not like...peta and imo likely not Ydrasse b/c I don't think you'd tie yourself to her strongly as Scum/Scum which I feel you're doing when she'd otherwise be in a pretty fine position), and its particularly that if you can be scum with skitter, since you'd feel somewhat forced into distancing/bussing atm given the collective opinion of both of your slots. And if you disagree I feel like it's on you to read through the game and give coherent reads and give actual reasons for why you wouldn't be scum with person X or Y (and peta already made a similar point to this earlier).
In post 6023, Gammagooey wrote:oh, and very last part. I don't think this should be considered nearly as much as the above, but I also really, really dislike Harley Quinn's interactions with skitter in their short time in the Saber/HQ/Tamora playerslot. It goes from town reading skitter to having doubts because of this skitter post (with the reasoning of HQ thinking skitter has a really bad sr on her)
saber's slot has just kinda been around and just making kinda polished observations without follow-through and without really having an underlying thought process. kinda reminds me of scum-lilith in that way tbh. harley's entrance was focusing on the wrong things and was kinda scummy in that i think it's easier for scum to focus on mechancis in a game like this than figure out what their reads ought to be
and then later after some previous pretty innocuous (imo) conversation with skitter her then this
In post 4874, skitter30 wrote:i am but there's something missing in ur logic there that i'm not getting
Your positioning on gypyx looks more like a buddy than toog, because of your positioning on me.
Because if you’re scum, you’re setting me up to flip me first, then toog, so it looks like a possible chaining of miselims. I still think gypyx is extremely scummy but less certain on that now because of Prism.
I don’t understand your confidence on scum!toog either, so there’s that.
these r all the times gooey mentions harley
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:12 am
by petapan
admittedly she did a good job swinging gammagooey from a town read to calling him scum later
but it really feels like she did just TMI her entire team like some bush league crap
you can look into this without the emotional posts i think
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:12 am
by Ydrasse
i hate thinking about this game
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:12 am
by Ydrasse
+i shouldn't look at those but also they're the ones making me go ? the most even after being bamboozled by them
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:14 am
by petapan
she was barking at me for a while, where with him it was...this
In post 5038, Gammagooey wrote:I finished rereeading through some stuff to try to read Ydrasse and Gypyx better and it was mostly not helpful. I do think I should downgrade Gyoyx/Prism from strong town to regular town read b/c most of my read came from the Prism slot and just Gypyx *efforting* but he still comes across as town to me
Ydrasse wasn't around much for pages like 50-70, kinda helped start the Galron wagon and then wasn't around for a while but also those pages were like a single real-life day so I don't think it's anything to really hold against her. Ydrasse also wasn't around a ton in blue PT which is slightly eh but most of her content there was pushing Toog which I can't really fault either.
My perfect left behind-team atm is prob skitter/Saber/Ydrasse/whoever Ydrasse wants to take down with her but I'm much more concerned with just getting skitter/saber dead atm
If Taly gets within hammer range of sending across I'll do it even though I want him to go later, but also I want to be slamming through the first 4 people once we've got the 1st person crossing. VOTE: petapan for now
oh hey more posts. I would still push dwlee through too and be perfectly happy about it, so if more votes go in that direction I'll jump back on dwlee wagon. Gemerald is also fine would vote to cross
oh and LAST THING I probably don't have much time to post until Saturday evening except for tomorrow morning and pop-ins to change my vote as a heads-up.
Okay, lost my initial tr on this slot. Ydrasse should never be left behind.
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:15 am
by Ydrasse
yeah that's the thing that makes me go. why are u dragging him in what seems to be a deeply rooted bitterness but there's not as much basis/bite it's WEIRD
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:15 am
by Ydrasse
Petapan you aren't scum making a fool of me are you.
I did but his interactions with Skitter looked weird to me, something was off there and then him wanting to leave Ydrasse behind kind of sealed it for me. I don’t like the way he keeps referring to her (Skitter’s) slot. I’m getting possible buddy vibes from their posts. When he sr her, she didn’t get upset about it and he keeps saying he wants to leave her behind but only talks about wanting me dead. That doesn’t sound like town making a good faith sorting of me. Those kind of posts generally come from scum trying to push a miselim. I just don’t buy it.
and...this
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:15 am
by Ydrasse
(i know it's easy to do so i hope you wouldn't do it (: )
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:17 am
by petapan
In post 7210, Ydrasse wrote:Petapan you aren't scum making a fool of me are you.
i feel like i'd have more accurate reads as scum
which is probably why it's gammagooey: he's occupying the position i would be occupying as scum
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:18 am
by petapan
i'd be like, running on 10x overkill this game
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:18 am
by Ydrasse
So what are all these quote walls and deepdives then HMMMMMM
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:21 am
by Gammagooey
I'll argue with ya'll about why I'm not scum when taly is dead if the game isn't over then
As for Harley hating me in particular aside peta I think it was because I (and I think peta too) was referencing Saber a lot when we were talking about our read on the slot instead of specifically talking about Harley Quinn. She had a post I think near when she replaced out saying that she didn't like people talking about her while not addressing her directly.
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:22 am
by petapan
which is not to say that extensive effortposting is out of my range, it's just
i don't dig this deep when i have a position of victory already secured
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:23 am
by Ydrasse
oh there was one thing i disliked about gamma though i remembered last night
In post 1021, Ydrasse wrote:this is the same ydra of that normal game and radio buzz
im rolling town lately and i cant stop
I was backreading to track votes between the last VC and ulyana+Dunnstral and noticed this
It’s a blatant lie but the fact that it’s a blatant lie is itself evidence that Ydrasse is town
Ydrasse as Bee in PYP had a serious case of scum fatigue; after I read that fact in the scum PT of that game Ydrasse shot up to Taly-level town because I saw none of those same warning signs from her in this game that I received in that game.
so knowing the entire scumteam decided to hold my hand through this game this was a little ? to think about because it's one of those little pet townreads or whatever that you throw out that doesn't have a lot of stake to it because i don't -think- i had a lot of fatigue and i don't really know what warning signs he ever... meant?
In post 1978, Ydrasse wrote:gamma i appreciate the townread very much but also how am i not more fatigued here than i was in that game ;-;
You said in the scum PT you were tired of rolling scum and it made sense why your tone felt off early on
I haven’t seen that same sort of done-with-it aura this game
like tone off sure, cool, but it's still just like... a very strange read all the same to me when i recalled it.
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:26 am
by petapan
i think uhh
the saber chainsaw defending dunn by attacking gemerald would also be kind of out of pocket
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:27 am
by petapan
also i got the sense that gammagooey doesn't actually give a shit about anything i'm posting and isn't really reading it to evaluate it
would be really funny if there was a reason for not caring
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:27 am
by petapan
really really funny if his absolutely atrocious read on gamma emerald is what tripped him up
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:31 am
by petapan
like mothfucker how do you sit there as town and still do "derp i think it's just taly" this far into the day phase and not evaluate for contingencies