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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:39 am
by Something_Smart
I Have Already Claimed My Basic Power I Need To Target People Taking Different Types Of Actions To Charge My Final Attack

For This Reason I Have Been Trying To Target People Who Claimed

Night 1 I Targeted Victorine Based On Her Claim I Was Assuming It Would Be True Even If She Was Scum
Night 2 I Targeted Ydrasse Because Jailkeeper Claim But I Got Reflexively Frozen So I Assume That Failed
Night 3 There Was No Good Target As Titus Claimed One Shot So I Targeted Gypyx Mostly Out Of PoE
Night 4 I Targeted Sakura Because Parity Cop

I Have Not Charged My Final Attack Yet But It Is A Publishing Daycop Shot So If I Charge It Tonight I Will Be Able To Confirm Myself (And: Someone Else) Tomorrow

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:40 am
by Something_Smart
In post 7198, Deimos27 wrote:So to be clear your defense is that scum redirected Sakura's parity cop on you onto someone else?
Yes

It's Entirely Possible They Have A Redirector Given What Happened To Ydrasse And It Was Known Sakura Had A Cop Shot So It's Silly To Think They Wouldn't Have Tried To Do Something About That

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:41 am
by Deimos27
I did not know Sakura was claimed

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:41 am
by Deimos27
Remind me what happened to Ydra

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:43 am
by Something_Smart
She Claimed To Have Targeted Gypyx But T3 And Clemency Got The Notifications Instead

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:43 am
by Something_Smart
So Presumably She Was Redirected Or Bus Driven To One Of Them

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:51 am
by Deimos27
The way investigatives interact with that is receiving the name of the new target along with the result right

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:52 am
by Deimos27
I guess Sakura will get back to us on that

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:53 am
by Something_Smart
Usually Investigative Roles Don't Learn Who They Targeted If They Were Redirected

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:53 am
by Firebringer
hey i was right about SS
and i was right about deimos for majority of game (gonna forget about when i had doubts on him)

Go me.
Why isn't everyone just shpeeping me all game. I am just epitome of solid reads

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:55 am
by Good Luck Buddy
In post 7209, Firebringer wrote:hey i was right about SS
and i was right about deimos for majority of game (gonna forget about when i had doubts on him)

Go me.
Why isn't everyone just shpeeping me all game. I am just epitome of solid reads

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:38 am
by VP Baltar
In post 7201, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 7198, Deimos27 wrote:So to be clear your defense is that scum redirected Sakura's parity cop on you onto someone else?
Yes

It's Entirely Possible They Have A Redirector Given What Happened To Ydrasse And It Was Known Sakura Had A Cop Shot So It's Silly To Think They Wouldn't Have Tried To Do Something About That
Doesn't make sense.

Sakura recieved an explicit result about you and NK not having the same alignment.

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:42 am
by Something_Smart
How Do You Know What She Got Usually These Things Just Say Your Target Instead Of The Name

Even If It Did Say The Name That Doesn't Mean It Would Be Redirection Immune She Would Have To Ask The Mod

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:50 am
by Sakura Hana
Well to be specific the mod does mention that my targets werent aligned with each other.
But how do I get that result, dont redirectors redirect all targets anyway?

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:56 am
by Something_Smart
This Game Has Some Weird Ass Roles I Do Not Claim To Know For Sure What Is Or Isn't Possible

I Feel Like You're Probably Not Scum Though (Because Why Burn Towncred On: This When I Would Likely Be Mis-Exed Anyway) So There Must Be Something Going On

It Could Be A Bus Driver As Well

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:58 am
by VP Baltar
In post 7213, Sakura Hana wrote:the mod does mention that my targets werent aligned with each other.
This is very specific language.

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:00 am
by Sakura Hana
Bus Driver would've to guess who I'm targeting, while it's not impossible it's rarer since i never gave any hint of where i would target. Trying to save themselves from a guilty if i target them while giving me a fake guilty if i target their target is not a bad thing to do, but I find the chances of me hitting a false positive due to a bus driver more unlikely that me hitting a false negative.

I went to assume since I didnt get "same alignment" I wasnt redirected since I assumed a redirector would change both of my targets to the same person hence always being "same alignment" regardless of which 2 I target.

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:00 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 7215, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 7213, Sakura Hana wrote:the mod does mention that my targets werent aligned with each other.
This is very specific language.
It's normal practice in themes to avoid the "mod lied to the player" when redirection is possible but not certain.

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:04 am
by Sakura Hana
But as I said, since i got "different alignments" i didnt think of redirection as a possibility.
If we had a bus driver tho, that'd be very bad luck, so i'm willing to risk the chance of that possibility.

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:06 am
by Something_Smart
Well I Mean Or You Could Give Me A Chance To Prove Myself

I Think It's Likely I Have Two Charges By This Point

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:11 am
by Sakura Hana
You know, it's kinda funny how both you and gypyx are claiming some sort of publicly announced information to clear yourselves.
More importantly you supposedly clear 2 people as well.

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:13 am
by Sakura Hana
Alternatively, you could just be scum, and decided to not interfere with me to pull the "she got redirected" card and didnt expect me to target 2 different aligned people which kind of debunks the redirector theory.

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:13 am
by Enchant
I just noticed day started.

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:22 am
by VP Baltar
SS is scum bargaining I think. We should also consider how many cops and clears are likely in the game.

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:26 am
by Enchant
Who Sakura also checked? Or Parity was one shot.