Tales of You (Endgame)

[Red Gyarados]

I don't get the scumslip bit

can you explain it to me like I'm five

[CarbonFiber]

AP, are you actually reading my posts?

[AngryPidgeon]

I don't get the scumslip bit

can you explain it to me like I'm five

Earlier this game (start of D3) Tammy voted him and he had this really faked freak out in which he called Tammy confirmed scum and was like "omg I cant believe I didnt see this before"

When he posted "Sigh, faking suspicion Tammy backfired

again

" I took it to mean he was referring to the start of D3 which he explicitly said was real at the time.

Now he is denying that the "again" part has to do with this game, but I just. I just cant argue against all these gymnastics. I dont know where the truth begins and what of it is bullshit. Im not going to PbP argue all these things again when I just

know

that CF is scum and sure hes probably being truthful or intentionally doing some things, but hes scum. This whole recent shenanigans is just carnival of lunacy at best and I want it voted so I can be full of myself post game. Its like anything goes, I can see it. Were mislynching some random townie Today like Nacho and then Im getting killed and PA is going down in Lylo despite my ability to read her and claling her obvtown.

[CarbonFiber]

AP, I JUST explained it to you that the "again" wasn't referring to this game? What don't you get? It is like you are ignoring my posts to continue to harp on it.

[CarbonFiber]

Like you said my pretending to be suspicious had to do with early D3.

I pointed out that I wasn't referring to this game at all.

Then you are again saying that I am suspicious for it and can't grasp the mental gymnastics that I was referring to a different game? Like, are you five?

[CarbonFiber]

The one thing my reaction test did was ABSOLUTELY confirm beyond a doubt that AP is scum. I'll eat a hat if I'm wrong about this.

[AngryPidgeon]

Yes, I see that. Fine, I'll retract that post.

Im not going to get caught up in point-by-point arguments anymore.

Your play here makes zero sense from town.

I don't know if you are just trying to derail the Nacho wagon or just carnival of lunacy or what, but Im over it.

[AngryPidgeon]

The one thing my reaction test did was ABSOLUTELY confirm beyond a doubt that AP is scum. I'll eat a hat if I'm wrong about this.

Yes your reads are godlike, help me lynch myself please.

You earned it.

Me finding you scummy over blatant horseshit clearly means Im just scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

Oh this is awkward, I thought you wouldnt be around when I was tryingto push this lynch on myself.

You said you were going away, crap.

[AngryPidgeon]

I want to get lynched so I can just see your reaction tomorrow in thread. Im 100% serious.

I want to see just how your poor brain is going to handle all this cognitive dissonance. Fake or real it should be amazing.

Actually probalby not.

Im probably just going to be a death Godfather for sure. Its the only thing that makes sense seeing as how my scumrole literally does everything.

[CarbonFiber]

AP, did you ever vote yourself as town out of frustration?

[AngryPidgeon]

AP, did you ever vote yourself as town out of frustration?

Yes.

[AngryPidgeon]

JUST NOW.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[CarbonFiber]

How about in the past?

Because if you never did, this feels like theatrics.

[AngryPidgeon]

Like you said my pretending to be suspicious had to do with early D3.

I pointed out that I wasn't referring to this game at all.

Then you are again saying that I am suspicious for it and can't grasp the mental gymnastics that I was referring to a different game? Like, are you five?

No I just think you are scum and I dont care what parts of your posts I technically correctly nailed you for and which parts are just you flailing around legitimately.

[AngryPidgeon]

How about in the past?

Because if you never did, this feels like theatrics.

Ask Nacho! I'm sure he could tell you one or three!

[CarbonFiber]

I don't get why you'd vote yourself though besides wanting everyone to think that you are frustrated town?

[Just Sheep Us]

or maybe

just maybe

he's actually frustrated town

[The Fox and the Hound]

Pen or Pencil?
Old gen console or latest gen console?
What are you doing right now (other than responding to this)?

GTKAS <3

You and DV on the other hand, scumread me for scumhunting you, throw in discredits, and try to position yourself against me. If you are town, I don't even know what to say.

See, this kind of stuff is just ridiculous. I haven't even voted for you, and I explained why I thought your reasons for suspicious us didn't make sense, and I really don't get how it's unreasonable for me to investigate this further. I'm not relentlessly tunneling or doing anything else that I feel could require this 'if you're town I don't know what to say' stuff. And you're the one complaining about discredits!

I'm not positioning. I'm saying what I think about different posts. This is how I play mafia. Eventually it all, in theory, adds up to an opinion.

This is exactly how I am. <3

It could not possibly be more boring?

Scumreading me is never boring.

Thank god, someone that actually makes sense posted. You should have killed AP N2. Anyways, PV, give me a quick update on where your reads are at.

Unless the last 30 pages contain mystical answers to as yet asked questions,

Town-me, you, JustSheep

Not first choice for scum -
Breakfast
FoxHound

Used to think was town before replacement
16 Penguin_Alien16 Clyton
4 Magenta_thegreat (mara and orci) 4 orcinus_theoriginal

Leaving 4 scum by PoE & play

1 Kagura (borkjerfkin + nachomamma8) <--most likely
5 Titan (Tammy + Sir Arthur Dane) <---I know this is unpopular, but I want empirical evidence of townhood, not circumstantial
9 AngryPidgeon 9 ElementalHawk (Prohawk+3dicerolling) <----This may be switchable with the 2 categories above it.
13 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience) <-----because I still have a null-read 7000 posts into the game. Experience says that it's probably scum.

This makes a lot of sense and feels town as fuck.

Thank god, someone that actually makes sense posted. You should have killed AP N2. Anyways, PV, give me a quick update on where your reads are at.

Unless the last 30 pages contain mystical answers to as yet asked questions,

Town-me, you, JustSheep

Not first choice for scum -
Breakfast
FoxHound

Used to think was town before replacement
16 Penguin_Alien16 Clyton
4 Magenta_thegreat (mara and orci) 4 orcinus_theoriginal

Leaving 4 scum by PoE & play

1 Kagura (borkjerfkin + nachomamma8) <--most likely
5 Titan (Tammy + Sir Arthur Dane) <---I know this is unpopular, but I want empirical evidence of townhood, not circumstantial
9 AngryPidgeon 9 ElementalHawk (Prohawk+3dicerolling) <----This may be switchable with the 2 categories above it.
13 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience) <-----because I still have a null-read 7000 posts into the game. Experience says that it's probably scum.

Thisthisthisthisthisthisthis. So fucking this.

Just look at this post, see how much sense it makes.

I was getting really confused and lost with all the latest posting but I'm glad PV jumped in and actually started making sense and looking at the game in a way that I can understand. Thank god you are in the game.

I am so confused.

And I applaud that your scum team is going to get me lynched, but considering I'm actually going to argue for my own lynch today unless something weird happens, it's whatever.

Tammy, if you have something that you really really think makes lynching you a good idea (I'd like penguin's thoughts on this too actually), then I'm happy to do it. But if it's even so much as partly because you're frustrated with the game or think scum is going to get you lynched anyway, then there's no way I'm going to touch you. I've decided that unless something really odd happens I'm just going to assume you're town and do away with any semblance of paranoia. I know you don't trust me, but unless I really believe that you genuinely think lynching you is a good idea, I'm going to fight against your lynch regardless of what Ceph thinks.

Now CF, my immediate reaction to your posts was more confusion than actually finding you scummy, but your posts were strange enough that I think it's pretty reasonable and even expected that Tammy would scumread you for it. So, after everything you've gone through with Tammy this game, I don't understand why something that is not even scummy causes you to completely revert you read, especially from someone who has insulted my townplay because I pressure people who suspect me. You've even voted for Tammy previously in the game, so having such a problem with Tammy voting for you doesn't make any sense! Please explain this to me.

Go read Carbon's first 50 posts. If you still think he is scum, come back and explain why.

I read what was probably their 50 posts last night. I thought they were pretty town, but they're not nearly as amazing as you seem to be implying.

NotScience, can you explain why you prefer not to lynch Tammy when she asked to be lynched? That implies a certain role that benefits from being lynched, doesn't it?

If I can tell that this is probably at least partly emotion-based and not necessarily the best course of action, then surely you can too. I mean, she's even voting for you.

Woah, what is going on?

Vote Tammy please or explain in detail why you won't.

I'm not voting Tammy because I have no idea why I should (I'll read up soon though).

Okay, let me know when you are ready?

I take it back.

I have no interest in hydraing with you.

Tammy, if he's scum then he's doing all this because it's to his win condition and is probably hating it as he's doing it. If he's town then he genuinely thinks you're scum. Please don't make this a thing outside the game.

Gah, pretending to suspect Tammy always ends in disaster.

UNVOTE:

Ok this feels pretty fake.

Hmm, I'm once again conflicted on CF, and I don't think I'd vote for him without reading all of his posts anyway, so I'll do that and then make a decision.

What I do think though is that what CF did is the kind of thing that looked really scummy and was bound to be considered suspicious. So, wanting to see who would jump on doesn't make any sense because I feel like that's what town would do. I actually think it odd that RG didn't react to the whole CF thing despite having CF as a scumread. I know that I was trying to think of ways how CF was not scum and coming up short, and didn't even consider that it might be a reaction test. Theories about RG & CF being scum together with this being a ploy to enable CF to townread RG convincingly (and maybe get RG townread by others too) are going through my mind, but I'm not sure how likely this is.

1) Why am I not voting the Nacho wagon is a stupid accusation. We are nowhere near deadline. We're not lynching right now. Who I am voting is irrelevant.

But you know after previous events in this game that often lynches are essentially decided way before deadline (e.g. Mastin, Cupcake), so this doesn't make sense.

CF, AP's reaction test, although not a very good one, made a lot of sense based on a post he made before it (I forget exactly what it was). Although the apparent lack of scum motivation is what's causing me to be cautious about this whole thing, I don't understand your reaction test at all, not your conclusions, your expectations nor your behaviour. The PV thing makes sense, but the Tammy stuff? I feel like town just nips it in the bud as soon as it starts to go downhill (e.g. what AP did), not try to continue it. That feels like scum that tries to fake a town reaction test, but that doesn't know the best way to make themselves look good out of it after.

AP, don't do this self-voting thing. Although I don't feel the same way I do about Tammy, there's no way I'm going to support some lynching you scheme to prove that CF is scum when it actually does nothing to achieve that anyway.

I've kind of skimmed some of the most recent posts, but this is too much for me right now. I'll be back a bit later today.

[The Fox and the Hound]

Oh obviously, no one needs to explain something if they already have.

[AngryPidgeon]

Im just so over this game.

Everyone in this game has an ego the size of a fucking blimp.

No one in this game is actually willing to lay a vote down on a wagon to get anything done.

All thats happened is we are now approaching 300 pages of fucking NOTHING except repeating the same points and people being too stubborn to actually do anything.

PV wont even claim his night action but hes LOLTOWN VIGCLAIM LOLOL.

You just admitted to faking a scumread on Tammy and are trying to take it back and Im scummy for being even remotely suspicious about how much of that is true, how much is just flailing. And even if it WAS all planned, I just cant see it being from town. It doesnt fit with what I've see you doing the rest of this game.

Yes Im freaking frustrated. The intertia in this town. The derp. The "Oh ya just read the firts 250 pages of CF's ISO, that'll clear it on up".

PVs reaction to you didnt look WEIRD AS HELL? I mean he clearly isnt reading the game, but wow.

[The Fox and the Hound]

*after it starts to go badly for them

[AngryPidgeon]

Oh and Magenta has done actually nothing this game Day except soft a roleblock on myself and Stalin and deny being a roleblocker.

How are they still alive?

[CarbonFiber]

BUT, I'd actually rather prefer I get lynched because if we lynch some other townie today, we lose for sure.

So, everyone please vote me in your next post.

Also, please realize that if we mislynch today and I get to LYLO, everyone will obviously vote me, so it is more strategic to lynch me today so town at least has a chance tomorrow. I don't want to be the auto-lynch in LYLO and I kinda want out anyways,

[CarbonFiber]

Fox is obvscum based on their last post. It is absolutely ridiculous. There is no way any of AP/Nacho/Fox are town in this game. The last scum has to be between Magenta, and Penguin although I am a little paranoid of PV.