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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:34 am
by Ydrasse
In post 7223, petapan wrote:mothfucker
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:35 am
by petapan
In post 7223, petapan wrote:like mothfucker how do you sit there as town and still do "derp i think it's just taly" this far into the day phase and not evaluate for contingencies
because you should be playing like it isn't taly, that degree of laziness is inexcusable from town but makes sense if you just ran out of people to bus


we might have been really close to outright losing the game if cakez hadn't sacrificed for ydrasse

on me for throwing in heaven i guess

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:37 am
by petapan
oh my god ydrasse look at #25 from unwnd in the blue room

the last line

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:37 am
by petapan
i'm glad we had like 5 days and just got inadvertently slowrolled because there really is a mountain of material to work with

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:39 am
by the worst
In post 7152, petapan wrote:i've put in the work and made my judgment, if you want to argue otherwise make a case but i have no need for idly trying to chip away at the read
don't think this is a fair characterisation of what I'm doing here.

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:39 am
by Gammagooey
petapan wrote:also i got the sense that gammagooey doesn't actually give a shit about anything i'm posting and isn't really reading it to evaluate it

would be really funny if there was a reason for not caring
literally everyone except me is basically working on the assumption that taly is going to flip town at this point and I think that's a wrong assumption, but it's going to be proven one way or another regardless of what I do at this point

I'm very capable of going over and discussing things after the flip. I'm here to have fun playing mafia and no offense but going through literal pages of quote-walls aint it

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:40 am
by petapan
In post 7229, the worst wrote:
In post 7152, petapan wrote:i've put in the work and made my judgment, if you want to argue otherwise make a case but i have no need for idly trying to chip away at the read
don't think this is a fair characterisation of what I'm doing here.
lol you might wanna

join us in the present

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:40 am
by Taly
In post 7221, petapan wrote:also i got the sense that gammagooey doesn't actually give a shit about anything i'm posting and isn't really reading it to evaluate it


would be really funny if there was a reason for not caring
I can think of a great one!

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:41 am
by petapan
In post 7230, Gammagooey wrote:
petapan wrote:also i got the sense that gammagooey doesn't actually give a shit about anything i'm posting and isn't really reading it to evaluate it

would be really funny if there was a reason for not caring
literally everyone except me is basically working on the assumption that taly is going to flip town at this point and I think that's a wrong assumption, but it's going to be proven one way or another regardless of what I do at this point

I'm very capable of going over and discussing things after the flip. I'm here to have fun playing mafia and no offense but going through literal pages of quote-walls aint it
i'm gonna turbo you and laugh about it

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:41 am
by the worst
In post 7153, petapan wrote:see e.g. popcorn where (as vulture) she tried to distance herself from enchant/lukewarm to set herself up to endgame: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=87343

very standard stuff

here she didn't really claim any pelts and was just kind of weak toward skitter

and the whole dynamic between her and skitter was off, it was atypical or scum distancing. most scum play it very vanilla, you push me, i push you back type stuff, e.g. the skitter/dunn interactions, which i eventually realized weren't clearing. here ydrasse basically doesn't punch back at skitter at all. were it a different player doing it i wouldn't consider that clearing but i don't think they'd be likely to fabricate that particular interaction
this is cerebral and is about what I was looking for. thanks.

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:41 am
by Gammagooey
like honestly

say whatever shit you want about me and I can deal with it

just don't try to convince ydrasse to sacrifice herself to spite theoretical-scum me and I'll be fine with it

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:42 am
by petapan
In post 7151, petapan wrote:
In post 7142, the worst wrote:I'm also very wary of skitter's scum ability and deliberately spewing a lategame carry is a LOT more valuable than pocketing someone like ydrasse who is just a completely reasonable nightkill if town.
there are no nightkills
me 6 hours ago: buhh worst fake dumbtell?????

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:44 am
by petapan
the fucking parenthetical on the blue room skitter read in #169

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:45 am
by petapan
this is gonna be it, the redemption of cakez

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:50 am
by Taly
In post 7235, Gammagooey wrote:like honestly

say whatever shit you want about me and I can deal with it

just don't try to convince ydrasse to sacrifice herself to spite theoretical-scum me and I'll be fine with it
WHERE DO I FIT IN THIS PICTURE? CONFSCUM?

WAS I GUILTIED?

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:51 am
by petapan
In post 7230, Gammagooey wrote:
petapan wrote:also i got the sense that gammagooey doesn't actually give a shit about anything i'm posting and isn't really reading it to evaluate it

would be really funny if there was a reason for not caring
literally everyone except me is basically working on the assumption that taly is going to flip town at this point and I think that's a wrong assumption, but it's going to be proven one way or another regardless of what I do at this point

I'm very capable of going over and discussing things after the flip. I'm here to have fun playing mafia and no offense but going through literal pages of quote-walls aint it
you can just post "i don't care about solving the game" you know

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:53 am
by the worst
In post 7160, petapan wrote:so, hypothetically, there's a world where skitter, feeling the heat in the Pink Room, starts to feel her enthusiasm for the game dropping and tells her teammate to bus her so they can endgame. it's not an implausible narrative at all. so, gammagooey's immediate case on skitter isn't really as clearing as i thought.

but is that the most likely scenario? i'm still not sure about that. there are other factors that have to be considered.
this does make me feel a lot better particularly around ydrasse fwiw. skitter is hard to read in a vacuum and I'm aware everyone has some level of tell but it is pretty comforting that skitter's associatives conform to a pattern.

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:53 am
by petapan
In post 2108, Saber wrote:
In post 2025, petapan wrote:
In post 1963, Galron wrote:
In post 1938, petapan wrote:
In post 1937, ulyana wrote:
In post 1935, petapan wrote:i hope you're town so i don't get accused of that post being scum theater
you think dwlee about to be flipped or…?
no just

down the line


anyway i got what i wanted out of this phase and i'm ready to move on, was just typing some thoughts up
This sounds like you knew this phase was coming.
shut the fuck up wolf
Why are you mad at him if you think he's a stagehand doing his job?

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:59 am
by the worst
Sharon van Etten & Angel Olsen are my scumbuddies irl.

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:59 am
by petapan
see theres a hypothetical world where GE was obviously leaning on skitter to be the carry and take him to endgame and that got mucked up


buuuuut unwnd's posts just bleed being informed

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:59 am
by petapan
In post 7243, the worst wrote:Sharon van Etten & Angel Olsen are my scumbuddies irl.
nice

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:02 am
by petapan
oh right i'm a DUMBASS

skitter trying to dismantle the wagon on gamma can make sense from a teamed perspective but if at that moment gamma is positioned toward scumreading dunn she obviously wants to avoid that as it's possible he executes a teammate and spews himself town where instead she can pull off a bus on a guy who's posting really terribly and snatch the glory for herself

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:07 am
by the worst
In post 7216, Gammagooey wrote:I'll argue with ya'll about why I'm not scum when taly is dead if the game isn't over then

As for Harley hating me in particular aside peta I think it was because I (and I think peta too) was referencing Saber a lot when we were talking about our read on the slot instead of specifically talking about Harley Quinn. She had a post I think near when she replaced out saying that she didn't like people talking about her while not addressing her directly.
at this point I just think it's you. if it isn't you, and it isn't Taly, taking the sidelines just because you're getting the elim you want is exactly what will let a deeper wolf in ydra/peta/me take the game away.

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:08 am
by Ydrasse
awooooo

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:08 am
by petapan
admittedly gamma emerald did a similar thing with sheeping my bad read on skitter. but. unwnd's is so much spewier