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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:27 am
by RadiantCowbells
Anything uPick: Votecount 5.297
Something_Smart (4): Sakura Hana, Good Luck Buddy, Taly, Ydrasse
T3 (0):
Gypyx (0):
Sakura Hana
(0):
Galron (0):
Good Luck Buddy (0):
Enchant (0):
Deimos27 (0):
Taly (0):
VP Baltar (0):
Ydrasse (0):
Not Voting: Gypyx, VP Baltar, T3, Something_Smart, Galron, Enchant, Deimos27
With 11 alive it's 6 to lim.
The day will end in
(expired on 2021-12-30 11:00:00).
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:40 am
by Something_Smart
In post 7223, VP Baltar wrote:SS is scum bargaining I think. We should also consider how many cops and clears are likely in the game.
Consider Also That Many Of Them Are Not Perfectly Reliable Though
This Is Basically A Bastard Game Or At Least It Has Bastard Elements
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:16 am
by VP Baltar
Which investigative roles that we know about have not been reliable?
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:22 am
by Galron
In post 7216, Sakura Hana wrote:Bus Driver would've to guess who I'm targeting, while it's not impossible it's rarer since i never gave any hint of where i would target. Trying to save themselves from a guilty if i target them while giving me a fake guilty if i target their target is not a bad thing to do, but I find the chances of me hitting a false positive due to a bus driver more unlikely that me hitting a false negative.
I went to assume since I didnt get "same alignment" I wasnt redirected since I assumed a redirector would change both of my targets to the same person hence always being "same alignment" regardless of which 2 I target.
It's not all that improbable given that several have scum read S_S. You don't really have to jump through a lot of hoops to get there. But regardless, we'd have to give him the benefit of the doubt that a redirector does exist, something I'm not willing to do at this point. And it's a defense that's easy for S_S to make. That, combined with "I can prove myself tomorrow" just seems a bit hinky to me.
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:31 am
by Something_Smart
Titus Was Not Redirect Immune Sakura Is Vulnerable At Least To A Bus Driver And Possibly A Redirector As Well
I Don't Know How Reliable My Check Is But A Godfather At Least Is Plausible
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:35 am
by Deimos27
Either Ydra is lying or there is indeed a scum role at least somehow akin to a redirector or bus driver. If they were town they really should've claimed by now.
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:39 am
by Deimos27
Would a redirector get to redirect both of Sakura's targets?
If they only got to redirect one target how would it be decided which?
So presumably they get to redirect both.
But then they must have guessed that Sakura was only parity cop or else they wouldn't have redirected to scum with one of the shots in case they just gave a free guilty?
Had Sakura claimed the parity modifier?
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:43 am
by Deimos27
Oh no wait yeah I'm being dumb.
Redirector wouldn't try intentionally to mislead Sakura with a fake positive in the first place because they don't know whether Sakura did investigate 1 scum 1 town. The only safe play is to redirect to two players with the same alignment.
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:43 am
by Deimos27
So either way I don't see scum motivation to redirect a target to themselves
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:44 am
by Deimos27
So it would have to be a clutch bus driver
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:46 am
by Deimos27
Did we ever get an explanation of how 2 people were affected? No normal bus driver could accomplish that.
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:17 am
by VP Baltar
In post 7229, Something_Smart wrote:
Titus Was Not Redirect Immune Sakura Is Vulnerable At Least To A Bus Driver And Possibly A Redirector As Well
I Don't Know How Reliable My Check Is But A Godfather At Least Is Plausible
So you want us to not lim you on hypothetical things that did not happen.
Titus had a true cop result on me.
I have reliable knowledge that Demios is conf town.
So that's two counter points that are proven. This is what I mean when I say you sound like scum bargaining. Both you and Gypyx have promised amazing future outcomes that are entirely contingent on town letting you live for an indeterminate amount of time.
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:29 pm
by T3
VOTE: ss
i haven't read but he has votes on him so he's probably the guilty
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:29 pm
by VP Baltar
In post 7237, T3 wrote:VOTE: ss
i haven't read but he has votes on him so he's probably the guilty
Lol
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:31 pm
by T3
even if he isn't the guilty i'm going to vote him because i hear stuff about mech
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:52 pm
by Sakura Hana
In post 7237, T3 wrote:VOTE: ss
i haven't read but he has votes on him so he's probably the guilty
In post 7239, T3 wrote:even if he isn't the guilty i'm going to vote him because i hear stuff about mech
This sounds informed
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:54 pm
by Sakura Hana
As in the "SS is my scummate and i see he's getting votes so imma assume he was who got caught" kind of sense.
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:58 pm
by VP Baltar
In post 7240, Sakura Hana wrote: In post 7237, T3 wrote:VOTE: ss
i haven't read but he has votes on him so he's probably the guilty
In post 7239, T3 wrote:even if he isn't the guilty i'm going to vote him because i hear stuff about mech
This sounds informed
+1
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:33 pm
by T3
In post 7240, Sakura Hana wrote: In post 7237, T3 wrote:VOTE: ss
i haven't read but he has votes on him so he's probably the guilty
In post 7239, T3 wrote:even if he isn't the guilty i'm going to vote him because i hear stuff about mech
This sounds informed
y
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:34 pm
by Good Luck Buddy
didn't we already know T3 was scum yesterday.
It was taly fault that we didn't yeet him that day instead went for loftwing.
Again always blame taly
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:08 pm
by Good Luck Buddy
In post 7244, Good Luck Buddy wrote:didn't we already know T3 was scum yesterday.
It was taly fault that we didn't yeet him that day instead went for loftwing.
Again always blame taly
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:11 pm
by Taly
I stand by my 1000 IQ decision
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:55 pm
by Galron
HOw long do we leave SS hanging at e1
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:25 pm
by Galron
Hint: someone unvote so we can talk some more. All for the lim though.
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:03 am
by Taly
what do you wanna talk about
galron
darling