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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:40 pm
by StrangerCoug
Am I the only one here?

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:09 pm
by Green Crayons
Apparently. I'm most suspicious of Coug. I want to know from who/what OGML stole.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:31 pm
by sam.samhorn
Green Crayons wrote:Apparently. I'm most suspicious of Coug. I want to know from who/what OGML stole.
Me too. Currently I still think Coug is town and since I'm pretty sure at this point that OGML is town I've got it narrowed down to semioldguy/GC.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:38 am
by semioldguy
@sam.samhorn
Now that we can be pretty sure that Kublai Khan's initial claim for bus driving was likely true due to other results and reveals. Why do you think he would switch two town members with each other instead of one town and one of his mafia buddies? I think one of either OhGodMyLife or sam.samhorn are likely scum.

Would like to hear what was stolen last night as well.

Also plan to do a re-read of the thread now that we have a dead scum player to analyze.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:45 am
by StrangerCoug
semioldguy wrote:I think one of either OhGodMyLife or sam.samhorn are likely scum.
I can see how OhGodMyLife could have feigned ignorance of the movie his character's from (Kublai Khan switches him with a townie, then his scumbuddies think of something OhGodMyLife could have stolen from himself to support faking thief in case someone's a full tracker), but if we must lynch one of those two, then at this point it should be sam.samhorn. I still think OhGodMyLife and Panzerjager are the same alignment, which clears the former in my mind since the latter flipped as aligned with the town.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:56 am
by semioldguy
StrangerCoug Post 634 wrote:
semioldguy wrote:Also, why are you getting on OhGodMyLife's case about a partial claim, but have not ever gotten on Green Crayons' case about his partial claim?
Your question implies that I find OhGodMyLife scummy for a partial claim when I'm taking a neutral stance on it while I determine why it's pro-town to wait until full-claiming. I also voted Green Crayons for his partial claim making no sense to me until he explained it, so by definition I was on his case for it.

FoS: semioldguy
I don't feel that this was so much of a misrepresentation as it was a misunderstanding in that I felt you pressured OhGodMyLife significantly more than you did of Green Crayons, who you left behind without getting the full claim and didn't continue to press the issue.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:59 am
by semioldguy
StrangerCoug wrote:
semioldguy wrote:I think one of either OhGodMyLife or sam.samhorn are likely scum.
I can see how OhGodMyLife could have feigned ignorance of the movie his character's from (Kublai Khan switches him with a townie, then his scumbuddies think of something OhGodMyLife could have stolen from himself to support faking thief in case someone's a full tracker), but if we must lynch one of those two, then at this point it should be sam.samhorn. I still think OhGodMyLife and Panzerjager are the same alignment, which clears the former in my mind since the latter flipped as aligned with the town.
If sam.samhorn is scum that means he didn't submit the kill on the previous night if Khan's switch was true. That would make one of the revealed roles as the other scum since I don't think the scum who sent in a kill would have claimed vanilla knowing that he could have been tracked to disprove that.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:47 pm
by StrangerCoug
semioldguy wrote:
StrangerCoug Post 634 wrote:
semioldguy wrote:Also, why are you getting on OhGodMyLife's case about a partial claim, but have not ever gotten on Green Crayons' case about his partial claim?
Your question implies that I find OhGodMyLife scummy for a partial claim when I'm taking a neutral stance on it while I determine why it's pro-town to wait until full-claiming. I also voted Green Crayons for his partial claim making no sense to me until he explained it, so by definition I was on his case for it.

FoS: semioldguy
I don't feel that this was so much of a misrepresentation as it was a misunderstanding in that I felt you pressured OhGodMyLife significantly more than you did of Green Crayons, who you left behind without getting the full claim and didn't continue to press the issue.
OK, I understand what happened here. I did indeed lay off Green Crayons once I had a basic understanding of what his role did. I actually thought he full-claimed and then I moved along, but according to you, it's the other way around. You do not play Mafia by arguing over trivia, however, so since we both agree that I dropped it after I got more details about what Green Crayons is, I'm not going to continue this further (unless you have questions about it).
semioldguy wrote:
StrangerCoug wrote:
semioldguy wrote:I think one of either OhGodMyLife or sam.samhorn are likely scum.
I can see how OhGodMyLife could have feigned ignorance of the movie his character's from (Kublai Khan switches him with a townie, then his scumbuddies think of something OhGodMyLife could have stolen from himself to support faking thief in case someone's a full tracker), but if we must lynch one of those two, then at this point it should be sam.samhorn. I still think OhGodMyLife and Panzerjager are the same alignment, which clears the former in my mind since the latter flipped as aligned with the town.
If sam.samhorn is scum that means he didn't submit the kill on the previous night if Khan's switch was true. That would make one of the revealed roles as the other scum since I don't think the scum who sent in a kill would have claimed vanilla knowing that he could have been tracked to disprove that.
Do you think Kublai Khan really bus-drove sam.samhorn and OhGodMyLife?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:24 am
by OhGodMyLife
I stole a dumpling from StrangerCoug, which confirms his claimed character but does not confirm his alignment, since as we saw with Kublai mafia roles are not necessarily bad guys in movies.

Aside: I am
so
hung over right now.

I'm still pretty much positive that its SC and sam, but I'm going to do some re-reading later to make sure.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:55 am
by sam.samhorn
semioldguy wrote:@sam.samhorn
Now that we can be pretty sure that Kublai Khan's initial claim for bus driving was likely true due to other results and reveals. Why do you think he would switch two town members with each other instead of one town and one of his mafia buddies? I think one of either OhGodMyLife or sam.samhorn are likely scum.
Mmm. This makes sense but it's still faulty and leaky. You can't be sure that KK even switched us at all last night.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:23 am
by OhGodMyLife
Vote: sam.samhorn

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:34 am
by StrangerCoug
OhGodMyLife taking a dumpling from me makes sense, so I'm
REALLY
going to lay off him.

While I buy semioldguy's defense, I don't feel ready to call sam.samhorn and Green Crayons the remaining scum by process of elimination (and somebody needs to wake me up with what the case on sam.samhorn is)

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:00 am
by sam.samhorn
Most of the reason the logic is faulty though of course is that I'm p. sure OGML is town at this point and I know I'm town, but I don't expect to use that as a believable defense, so

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:27 am
by StrangerCoug
*goes off shooting fireworks since no one else seems to be posting*

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:00 am
by LlamaFluff
Everyone but SC has been prodded. Due to the holiday weekend in some parts of the world, I will not start looking for any replacements untill Tuesday if prods have not been picked up

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:21 am
by OhGodMyLife
My vote is in place. My head hurts.

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:31 pm
by StrangerCoug
Wake me up when something important happens. I've exhausted my semioldguy lead, and I don't have anything good on sam.samhorn and Green Crayons.

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:16 pm
by sam.samhorn
What are the possibilities OGML is pulling a gambit? I see no reason to make him town yet, especially since one mafioso has an additional ability.

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:12 pm
by StrangerCoug
sam.samhorn wrote:What are the possibilities OGML is pulling a gambit? I see no reason to make him town yet, especially since one mafioso has an additional ability.
The Mafia having more than one power role to their side is rare in a mini, though I've played awhile in an exception.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:18 pm
by OhGodMyLife
sam.samhorn wrote:What are the possibilities OGML is pulling a gambit? I see no reason to make him town yet, especially since one mafioso has an additional ability.
Scum have every reason to try to keep as few people confirmed as possible.

Lynch sam.samhorn please.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:50 pm
by sam.samhorn
OhGodMyLife wrote:
sam.samhorn wrote:What are the possibilities OGML is pulling a gambit? I see no reason to make him town yet, especially since one mafioso has an additional ability.
Scum have every reason to try to keep as few people confirmed as possible.

Lynch sam.samhorn please.
So do townies??

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:02 pm
by Green Crayons
You're saying town doesn't want confirmed innocents?


Sam, why did you have a sudden hesitation for Khan's lynch yesterday?

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:06 pm
by StrangerCoug
sam.samhorn wrote:
OhGodMyLife wrote:
sam.samhorn wrote:What are the possibilities OGML is pulling a gambit? I see no reason to make him town yet, especially since one mafioso has an additional ability.
Scum have every reason to try to keep as few people confirmed as possible.

Lynch sam.samhorn please.
So do townies??
This makes absolutely no sense to me. Town
LIKES
confirmed players. I believe I said I viewed OhGodMyLife that way.

Unvote
if I need to, but I don't think so
Vote: sam.samhorn

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:47 am
by sam.samhorn
Green Crayons wrote:You're saying town doesn't want confirmed innocents?


Sam, why did you have a sudden hesitation for Khan's lynch yesterday?
They do want confirmed innocents but there's reasonable logic here that would imply that OGML could be pulling a gambit. Townie's don't want confirmed innocents who aren't really confirmed.

I hesitated on Khan's lynch because I was confused about what was going on. You might notice I did pretty much nothing other than ask questions once the Panzer/OGML/Khan was underway because I wasn't sure as to what was going on. By the time everything was explained to me, someone else dropped the hammer.

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:52 am
by StrangerCoug
sam.samhorn wrote:
Green Crayons wrote:You're saying town doesn't want confirmed innocents?


Sam, why did you have a sudden hesitation for Khan's lynch yesterday?
They do want confirmed innocents but there's reasonable logic here that would imply that OGML could be pulling a gambit. Townie's don't want confirmed innocents who aren't really confirmed.
I got yelled at in 774 for trying to paint a somewhat confirmed town (via doc protection) as the SK. So believe me when I say that doesn't fly.