Super UPick - Abandoned by mods

[Pomegranate]

Anything you'd like me to answer or comment on?

[Iecerint]

The main reason I suspect you is that your ability making players Hated explains Pyro's really bizarre apparent "I'll claim at L-1!"-as-a-Hated-player behavior. We'd been assuming that Pyro was just playing absurdly anti-town, but Drench's vote being responsible would explain it.

I doubt you can really do much with that apart from a) claiming it's not the case b) making set-up arguments ala tajo or c) offering alternate targets, but I'd welcome any of that.

[Pomegranate]

I doubt you can really do much with that apart from a) claiming it's not the case b) making set-up arguments ala tajo or c) offering alternate targets, but I'd welcome any of that.

I don't know if I make people hated. I guess it fits with what's happened.

What do you mean about alternate targets?

[Iecerint]

People to shoot who aren't you (e.g. "I think XXX is a better target because YYY").

Could you claim your rolename?

[Pomegranate]

I am Tsuruya, from the Meloncholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. I haven't actually watched this anime, so I don't really know anything about it.

[populartajo]

Iecerint:

Where the hell did Pome claim to have an ability to make players Hated?

[Iecerint]

She didn't. I think you're misparsing my 726's first sentence. Make it subjunctive.

[populartajo]

Occams razor, Iecering.

Did you really think Pyro was playing this game to win?

I think the ill claim l-1 was a way of joking about his role.

Pom is a doublevoter. The Mod has posted that she does have two votes, there were no hated involved. I dont understand why you think its more possible that she has powers of making people hated instead of the most obvious explanation:

Boxman; (2) Pop, Deathnote

I made an error Day 1. Drench did have two votes on Pyro

[Iecerint]

Pyro said some obnoxious things, but I like to think that no player would do something THAT against their win condition (e.g. DeathNote plays pretty anti-town, but I don't think he'd openly invite L-1 as a Hated player).

The Mod's meaning is hard to interpret; Drench should have had two votes on Pyro, but he also doesn't list double votes in the VC -- or even a single vote from Pome. <_<

Moreover, to the extent that it is feasible that scum could have a functional doublevoter who makes players Hated, it seems like it's feasible that they could have the real thing, since they're identical from a mechanics perspective, especially if the real doublevoter has his vote hidden. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Do you think someone else is a better candidate?

[populartajo]

Hey, Iecerint, what does this statement say to you?

Drench did have two votes on Pyro

[Iecerint]

It could mean that Drench is a doublevoter and so is Pome or it could mean that they have an ability that works like a doublevote. I would assume the former in the general case, but the inconsistencies I've mentioned make me unsure.

Also, you ignored my post.

[Empking]

Boxman; (3) Pom, Pop, Deathnote,
Bogre (1) - Boxman

[Iecerint]

lol.

I suppose that changes things.

[MafiaSSK]

lol.

I suppose that changes things.

Indeed.

[Iecerint]

Tajo, do you think someone else is a better candidate? Goes for SSK, too, and whoever else wants to chime in.

[chamber]

Iec, can you vig boxman nowish please.

[Iecerint]

No. My opinions on that issue have not changed since page 24. I would shoot Pome, Primate, Ortolan, Bogre, or DeathNote before I shot BM.

Have there been games with actually-unlynchable scum? That seems like a difficult mechanic to balance. I suppose that 3 DKers and an NKer might approach it, though. <_<

[Bogre]

No. My opinions on that issue have not changed since page 24. I would shoot Pome, Primate, Ortolan, Bogre, or DeathNote before I shot BM.

you would shoot...anyone...before you shot an actual scum?

uh..what..the..

I imagine the only way that -not- being completely stupid is if you consider the possibility of Boxman's lynch giving him some sort of added immunity or power.

But we really lose nothing for you to shoot him, when the chances of you vigging another scum are pretty low, compared to killing another townie.

Also, why would you shoot me? That would really be wasting your vig.

Vote: Icerint

[Iecerint]

I would shoot any of various players I think may have been culted before I shoot the NK-proof scum, yes.

As for you, I, err, forgot that you were DK proof. I made my list by ruling out players I think are unlikely to have been culted. I wouldn't want to shoot tajo unless Pome flipped scum, and I think Chamber's willingness to clarify the list in a timely way limits his likelihood, too. SSK I'm clearing based on DKers not being recruitable.

[chamber]

ssk, wana shoot box for me? That way we can get on to lynching Iec.

[ortolan]

I feel like some chocolate

[Iecerint]

I suppose I've given everyone a chance to suggest someone.

Kill: Pomegranate

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[Empking]

Pom was Daykilled.

Pom was a Un-NKable Mafia Double Voting Traitor.

[chamber]

ssk, wana shoot box for me so that we can get on to lynching someone whos yet undecided?

[Iecerint]

PM from the Mod. I have another shot.

Is nice that that's a third one. Is less nice that the traitor aspect makes it harder to interpret. <_<