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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:34 am
by Parama
...and who, pray tell, did you redirect from?

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:37 am
by Juls
oh...well....then

I assume they killed me then?

Unvote

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:43 am
by Cogito Ergo Sum
Yup. Scum tend to shoot at claimed protective roles.

Vote: Vifam

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:47 am
by Juls
Yeah, I was thinking Vifam too then. The bodyguard claim may have been a mistake.

Vote: Vifam

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:52 am
by Juls
Just my reads since I don't think anything is left to protect me:

Town

Magister Ludi - 100% clear
xRECKONERx - cleared by gandalf but it's still not 100%
Parama - so many missed kills makes me think he is town and does have the strongman
Cogito Ergo Sum - if he is telling the truth he has played it pretty protown
gandalf5166 - based on him being a cop but he could have taken that as scum. Be leary.
Ellibereth - based on CES saying the QT with Hoopla looked legit.
Zdenek - blocked him last night but other buddy still out there and could have done the kill.
Vifam - claimed bodyguard. When I pointed out that hoopla had claimed that he was like "lol yeah she is scum" and then voted. A little off.
Scum

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:04 am
by Cogito Ergo Sum
Juls wrote:Parama - so many missed kills makes me think he is town and does have the strongman

Well, we know he has the strongman per Nocmen. He's somewhat more likely to be gambitting than gandalf, I think.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:08 am
by Parama
>scum miss two kills
>haven't used my roleblock
>gambitting

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:09 am
by Juls
That's my point though. He does have it. I think if scum had it some of those early kills would have went through.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:10 am
by Juls
But playing devil's advocate, he did claim day 1 so he may not have ever intended to use it.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:41 am
by Magister Ludi
Wait, CES, exactly what night action did you use last night, and on who? I am taking it you didn't shoot katsuki with your vanilla vig, because doing so would mean that scum missed a kill, and the only explanation I have is that juls jailkept zdenek who either attempted the shot (likely) or was shot at (very unlikely).

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:57 am
by Cogito Ergo Sum
Redirector, switching Juls and Katsuki.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:59 am
by Magister Ludi
oh.
unvote

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:14 am
by Ellibereth
YAY I'M HERE AND THREAD ISN'T LOCKED.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:15 am
by Ellibereth
and do you get access to new qt's also or only old.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:17 am
by Ellibereth
Hoopla's read list:
(can't c and p and all that ugh you spy)

TOWN
Reck
imp
chamber
zden
Juls
Ludi

NEUTRAL
Elli
gandalf
Cogito
Parama

SCUm
Noc
Katsu
Sera
Vif

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:17 am
by Parama
vote: Vifam


Her scumlist:
town
town
town
unknown

WELP

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:22 am
by Parama
Hoopla wrote:Here are my reads in a sliding scale sort of order;

Town:

Reck
implosion
gandalf


Zdenek
(I agree with Seraphim here, that Zdenek/David interaction early looks too natural for it to be a scum/scum conversation. Scum would have to have been very canny to plan such a maneuver.
Magister Ludi
(Neighbouriser/White Mage pick looks like a pretty solid combination. If Juls is scum, then Ludi isn't, but if Juls is town then their partnership together is probably town/town)

Neutral:

Juls
(Thought she was pretty town, but I can't shake the possibility this is some epic scum gambit that's playing out that I can figure out)
Parama
(Strongman pick is kinda town the way he claimed it, but I'm not 100% sold)

Elli
(I want to believe he is town since he picked 3 neighbourisers, but he's done this before as scum, and I'm still paranoid about him. At times he gives me good vibes though)

Vifam
(hasn't done much, but is scummier than everyone above him and by PoE slightly scummy - it's what happens when everyone else is town)
CES
(same as above, though slightly scummier since chamber died with suspicion on CES)

Scummy:

Katsuki
(Done nothing, scummy opening post Day 2, PoE)
Nocmen
(explained mostly in my wagon analysis post. It makes too much sense)

HMM
WHICH PLAYER MOVED UP TO NEUTRAL FROM SCUM ON HER SLIDING SCALE SINCE THE LIST FROM THE QT? :roll:

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:41 am
by xRECKONERx
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Redirector, switching Juls and Katsuki.

Weird that it's called a redirector and not a bus driver here.

Vote: Vifam
or something. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:42 am
by Parama
one more to hammer

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:46 am
by xRECKONERx
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:13 am
by Cogito Ergo Sum
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Ellibereth wrote:and do you get access to new qt's also or only old.

Fairly sure I don't.

xRECKONERx wrote:Weird that it's called a redirector and not a bus driver here.

Yeah. I suspect the scum didn't even realize I could busdrive.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:50 am
by Ellibereth
did you see my new post in the qt :P

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:11 am
by Cogito Ergo Sum
Yeah. I don't think they'll believe me if I call you confirmed town. Odds are the scum team is Vifam-Zdenek anyway.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:12 am
by gandalf5166
Juls wrote:I jailkept Zednek last night.

We need to consider the possibility that gandalf claimed an innocent on his scumbuddy. It doesn't make sense to leave 4 clears (me, Ludi, gandalf, and Reck) in favor of Katsuki. We also need to consider that CES is picking off vanillas so that he doesn't have to shoot one of them later. It's better to get this question of gandalf out of the way sooner rather than later. Ludi and I are cleared 100%. If we lynch gandalf and clear him then we will have Reck as a clear 100%. That way tomorrow we have two or three 100% clears if scum want to play this game of kill a random person.

Vote: gandalf

This is a bullshit idea. I shouldn't have to explain why.

VOTE: Vifam

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:26 am
by Cogito Ergo Sum
If scum had killed Katsuki, that would've been really weird though.