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Not sure if this is useful or not, but I had this game open on my mobile device when the crash happened and I have the last couple posts. There was a vote count, and then:

fuzzybutternut:
Hmmm.
Three likely scenarios:
Bro is scum and his scum buddy is afraid to bus him.
Bro is scum and his scum buddy is actively bussing him.
Bro is town and there is scum on his wagon.

I think situation two is most likely.

Lord Mhork:
So you think that PA is scum then?

fuzzybutternut:
Logically, yes. I do.
I'd rather lynch BRO over him today, see what happens tonight, and look at it again tomorrow.

Anything after this point I don't have. fuzzybutternut, what makes you want to lynch BROseidon? You said earlier you needed more information; what tipped you to voting him specifically?

Saint, an answer to fuzzybutternut's question here would be good:

In post 711, fuzzybutternut wrote:

In post 707, Saint wrote:I would have hammered as either alignment. js

Why?

as claiming you'd hammer with no warning or chance to claim as town is pretty suspect to me.

In post 725, penguin_alien wrote:Not sure if this is useful or not, but I had this game open on my mobile device when the crash happened and I have the last couple posts. There was a vote count, and then:

fuzzybutternut:
Hmmm.
Three likely scenarios:
Bro is scum and his scum buddy is afraid to bus him.
Bro is scum and his scum buddy is actively bussing him.
Bro is town and there is scum on his wagon.

I think situation two is most likely.

Lord Mhork:
So you think that PA is scum then?

fuzzybutternut:
Logically, yes. I do.
I'd rather lynch BRO over him today, see what happens tonight, and look at it again tomorrow.

Anything after this point I don't have. fuzzybutternut, what makes you want to lynch BROseidon? You said earlier you needed more information; what tipped you to voting him specifically?

Saint, an answer to fuzzybutternut's question here would be good:

In post 711, fuzzybutternut wrote:

In post 707, Saint wrote:I would have hammered as either alignment. js

Why?

as claiming you'd hammer with no warning or chance to claim as town is pretty suspect to me.

His posts strike me as scum. Which is odd, because he doesn't have many.

also
VOTE: Penguin_Alien

No hard feelings, but scum is scum.

In post 704, Lord Mhork wrote:ChannelDelibird, Ghostlin aside, who's scum?

I think there's a good chance that BROseidon is one, as I mentioned a little earlier Today. I'll want to have another look at a few people for a third - penguin_alien's mostly been a null read on the edge of the game, which is pretty bad now that I actually write it down in front of me. I have to consider everyone again at this point, obviously, although I'm pretty happy to write off you and Rach as town.

While buddies are important considerations, though, we do have to remember that we haven't got a scum flip yet, so really we should be lynching the scummiest player flat-out. I'd rather chase scummy individuals for now than connections between two or three unflipped players.

In post 706, Amrun wrote:Obviously it's weird. You couldn't see what penguin alien did with a weird vote? -.-

I'm going to look back at penguin_alien imminently but I'd like you to expand on this anyway.

In post 709, penguin_alien wrote:Your reservations [about Ghostlin], as far as I can tell, come from his vote on Saint at the beginning of Day One. I know some people think early-game is where they do their best scumhunting, but you're not specifically referring back to that case. If these reasons you discussed earlier are so compelling, why not detail them?

They do mostly come from Day 1 but you've missed this from Day 2 as well as linguistic issues around the hammer (actually hammering was null, a couple of the things he said around it look scummy). Let's not forget that we had Ghostlin hammer ArcAngel for a reason - we were looking like lynching him otherwise and might well have done if ArcAngel hadn't Done Her Thing. If we accept that the ArcAngel hammer wasn't the shining beacon of towniness that we wrote it off for before, then it really isn't that weird that I still have a scumread on him.

Fuzzy, you seem to have fairly strong scumreads on both penguin_alien and BROseidon (and, seemingly, Ghostlin, as you agreed with me earlier). What about penguin makes you vote her over the other two?

In post 728, ChannelDelibird wrote:

In post 706, Amrun wrote:Obviously it's weird. You couldn't see what penguin alien did with a weird vote? -.-

I'm going to look back at penguin_alien imminently but I'd like you to expand on this anyway.

How much clearer can it get? It was a reaction test which you handily ruined. Calling it weird downplays the vote and changes her reaction to it.

It was weird ON PURPOSE. Why didn't you wait for her to react to it?

Oh, sorry, I misread you. I thought you were implying that penguin had "done" a weird vote and that I hadn't seen the vote in question. Got you now.

As to why I didn't wait; I'm sorry, it didn't occur to me. That part of the risk you take when you do something deliberately weird.

Okay okay. But I was trying to draw her into the game more directly, and she's stayed on the periphery for the most part, though not entirely.

I'm liking the bro wagon but don't think I'm ready for L-1.

In post 730, ChannelDelibird wrote:Fuzzy, you seem to have fairly strong scumreads on both penguin_alien and BROseidon (and, seemingly, Ghostlin, as you agreed with me earlier). What about penguin makes you vote her over the other two?

The questioning she's doing is forced. Scum force questions to seem town.

"The toilet's never had anything as horrible as your head down it - it might be sick." - Harry Potter

A+ Quoting.

In post 719, Amrun wrote:Broseidon, are your only scum reads PoE?

I've found Ghost scummy all game. Also feeling off about p_a now, but that may be because I have town meta on her from a different site where the meta is pretty different (my meta there is very different as well).

Don't have time to reread everything until the weekend, which I want to do. Until then,

VOTE: Ghost

Going to park the vote there for now.

Hmm.
Why ghostlin over PA?

I forget why I ever tinfoiled on fuzzy. He was just wrong and that's okay.

...wat

Translation: you are more likely to be town than scum.

What was I wrong about again? I forgot because tigers.

ArcAngel.

Just going to pretend like I know what's going on.....

It's k it doesn't matter.

Ghost over fuzzy because I early townread p_a as town and ghost as scum. I want to reread day 1 to see if anything there pings in retrospect.

and by fuzzy I mean p_a.

Wow I am tired and need to learn to edit shit.

But what about Ghostlin's ArcAngel hammer? Why would scum him do that so easily? Why wouldn't he fight? Why would he just acquiesce?