Calvin and Hobbes Mafia(GAME OVER! Grownups Mafia Wins!)

[Psyche]

Skullduggery, rofl's flip confirms multiball.

[Varsoon]

@Skull: Jailkeeper doesn't seem that powerful in such a huge game. And, yeah, I -do- believe that scum would sacrifice a Jailkeeper in a 21-person game so that he could survive, given that Zoidberg's PR is probably way better in this setup.

Regardless, I hate how Zoidberg has responded to any pressure so far.
So, I'd like to see what he says.


PEDIT:
@Psyche: I suppose so. I just can't shake that he's scum, especially given that multi-ball is confirmed now and he was so anxious about slipping over it.

[Rubicon]

Jailkeeper doesn't seem to prove multiball, it just proves there's more than one killing role but we already knew that.

Welp, someone redirected my night action to Radioactive Wolf, and it was useless since he was NK'd.

VOTE: Varsoon

I changed my mind, you're not a VT, you're just scum. "Someone redirected my night action" -> trying to establish a defense against other PRs saying they can prove you're scum. Talking about redirectors and bus drivers is my new favorite scum tell, actually.

[Zoidberg]

Welp, someone redirected my night action to Radioactive Wolf, and it was useless since he was NK'd.

How convenient for you!

Prove you weren't bussing your scum-buddy. I still don't buy that you're tracer bullet, especially since he's an alter-ego of Calvin, who just died.
It's too convenient that you had a cop-related ability, ESPECIALLY in light of the PRs that just flipped.

I can guarantee that at least one other "calvin alter-ego" exists in the game.

[Zoidberg]

Jailkeeper doesn't seem to prove multiball, it just proves there's more than one killing role but we already knew that.

I think the "slimy girls mafia" confirms multiball. Otherwise mafia wouldn't have a name.

[Zoidberg]

If I'm in a real pinch, I'll let you know my role and why I know Zoidberg is full of shit.

Are you claiming to have concrete proof that I'm scum? Yes or no?

Yes.

Still waiting for this, BTW. You said you had concrete proof and yet it never seems to materialize.

Gee, I wonder why that is?

[Zoidberg]

Regardless of his flip, I'm reading this as Zoidberg getting town lynched to survive a single day longer or him bussing his scum-buddy to earn towncred.

Translates to "I'm going to disregard anything so that I still have an excuse to continue tunneling."

VOTE: varsoon

[Desperado]

I'm very interested in hearing more about Varsoon's role.

As in, that needs to happen before we do anything else.

[Psyche]

Not posting again until Varsoons fully claims. Have fun.

[TheIrishPope]

I tracked Varsoon and he visited Radioactive; there was no redirecting. Scummy scum.
VOTE: Varsoon

[Nobody Special]

I am curious how Varsoon knows his action was redirected. Usually that's not something the Mod informs you of.

[Rubicon]

Would've been better to wait on that reveal, TIP, but oh well.

[TheIrishPope]

Then vote Varsoon

[Dante]

Vote Varsoon

Seems like a good place to start.

[Rubicon]

Then vote Varsoon

I am

[Varsoon]

TIP, you're full of it.

Regardless, my full claim, since people want to hear it so badly, is Snowman. I'm a miller/two-shot neighborizer. I tried to Neighbor Skullduggery last night, but the message that the mod sent back to me was "You successfully neighborized radioactive wolf but he died."

I assume this wasted one of my shots.

As to why I know Zoidberg is scum, and the evidence I have towards it, my role-pm also included info confirming a multiball setup. Based on that, Zoidberg's slip about the multiball setup and the flip of 'Slimy Girls mafia' confirms that there is a multiball and Zoidberg knew about it beforehand.

Speculate all you want, but I've been tunneling Zoidberg hard because there's a heavy chance he is scum. His response to my immediate pressure today was slander and question-dodging. You know who does that shit? Scum.

Now, please, do some actual hunting of your own, or give me actual proof that Zoidberg isn't scum. Anything else is a waste of time.

[TheIrishPope]

Yeah right
And your "there's a heavy chance he is scum" doesn't help you
Let's lynch Varsoon

[Desperado]

Vote: Varsoon

[Varsoon]

What evidence do you have against me, TIP?
I am tunneling a player that I believe is scum. I've provided several instances and examples of why he is scum. Is that scummy?

Please, explain to me why I warrant a lynch--other than you wanting to cut the day short and stifle actual scumhunting.

[Desperado]

He tracked you to one of the dead people...

[Desperado]

Like that's pretty damning evidence.

And then you told him he's full of it even though he confirms what you claim to have done.

And then you were totally nonspecific about what information you got that confirmed the setup as multiball which is weird because you're argument is that Zoid is scum because he knows it's multiball (because he's scum) and he slipped, but...you're town, and you know it's multiball. So why is he automatically scum???

Oh yeah because you're scum.

[Varsoon]

Because, like I said, my ability--neighborizer--was redirected from Skullduggery to Radioactive Wolf.

Desperado, are you going to believe anything people say? His 'tracking' me is absolute bullshit. You're sheeping the aplenty-of-votes on me while regurgitating flimsy logic.

If you ISO me, it's fairly obvious that I already breadcrumbed my entire role PM and hinted strongly at either neighboring Skullduggery or Psyche.

[Desperado]

OK. But you still visited Radioactive.

And what does TIPscum gain from fakeclaiming tracker with a guilty on you?

Your "Would you jump off a bridge if he told you to?" defense is pathetic.

[Varsoon]

I'm not allowed to fully quote my role PM, but it includes that I win when there are "no ant-town players" left in the game and that both the "grownups and the girls" often see me as horrific. Seeing as one scum-team is confirmed slimy girls, I can only assume the other is grownups, in this scenario.

Yeah, I factored for Zoidberg having similar reason to believe there'd be a multiball, but given how loose he was with his role-related information and how anxious he was over slipping about multiball, you'd think he'd share the PM-related info that confirmed it for him. Or he's just scum and slipped.


P-EDIT: What would TIP claim from fake-trackering a guilty on me? Oh, I don't know, false leverage used to move my wagon. Regardless, even if he did track me, it would reveal that I used a night-action on radioactive wolf, because that's the end result of what happened. I tried to neighbor Skullduggery, and then someone redirected my night action to Radioactive. This is why I said it immediately in the game-thread, because I knew someone would likely try to slander me with either A) Bullshit or B) Tracking me and seeing how that turned out.

[Psyche]

So, Varsoons. You lied to us yesterday, waited to claim miller, and just so happened to be redirected to the player who got killed last night.