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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:21 pm
by artemiskitty
In post 660, Rail Tracer wrote:i highly doubt dessew was perceived as a threat because of his suspicions. more likely PR hunting or something.

anyway, my pool of suspects today is {mario, mogamma, natirasha}. outside chance at titus and maaaaaaybe ns if someone can convince me, but these three i feel are most likely scum.

general question for anyone to answer: where's the scum on this wagon?

Daniel Bryan (7): Rebel Without a Pulse, Rail Tracer. Brian Skies, Sound of Silence, Natirasha, Dessew, Titus (LYNCH)
I can say though this post pinged a lot.

So you want people to answer this without answering it yourself. Seems like you are trying to see what people say in order to use that in the future for your benefit.

Your top three scum suspects are not
even
on this wagon so why are you asking others to answer it when you barely believe it yourself? You only stated Titus with hesitation, I might add.

Then you drill our slot to answer it after others ignored it.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:25 pm
by artemiskitty
In post 659, Natirasha wrote:Mario needs to post or replace out, really.

Dessew's main scumspect was Brian Skies. The nk fits in with my perception of Brian Skies, but as usual with NKA, >WIFOM. Move Skies down a tier in my reads for now.
I do have to say this NK is interesting. I need to see if Brain Skies has any scum games on site I can dig through.

I really wish the DB lynch didn't happen because a few posts were really from a town-mindset, but I think people were too "focused" on him being scum to see it.

I actually thought Dessew was scummy so him being NK'd was a shock to me.

Only thing I could maybe be thinking is that there is no scum on the wagon (hard to agree with that when we maybe have 3 scum in the game) and that the kill HAD to be on the wagon because killing someone off the wagon would do harm in VCA along the way.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:27 pm
by Sound of Silence
In post 724, artemiskitty wrote:
artemiskitty (mantis/mala) - paranoia about me could be a put on, but it looks pretty townish. Mantis also blatantly keeps asking lots of questions after mentioning it's part of her scum game.
GiF - we need to talk.

This is Mala speaking, but you confused Mantis' meta read of Fery with something you think Mantis is self metaing.
This is Fery speaking, and the above words were mine. It's two separate thoughts and the read is leaning town.

pedit Mala, he has no completed games at MS so far. I checked again earlier today.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:28 pm
by artemiskitty
In post 675, Rail Tracer wrote:@ak,

i would like you to explain the nat town read because i'm going over his iso now and don't see it. he largely coasted by d1 contributing virtually nothing in the way of content and his position on the db wagon is about where i'd expect scum.

for reference, i'm reading the other three players at the front end of the db wagon as town and i do not believe there was no scum on that wagon.
nat wrote:It is not completely out of the realm of imagination to assume that seven people voted wrong--even assuming the worst numbers of 3 scum+SK, that leaves 9 town to mislynch.
no, it is highly unlikely given how hesitant people were to lynch DB. that suggests there was already scum on the wagon. i may be wrong about one of my town reads in the early part of the wagon, but i'm almost certain there was at least one, maybe two scum on the wagon prior to titus's hammer.
nat wrote:If there must be scum on the wagon, it's probably between Brian, Rail Tracer, and Titus.
if you had to pick one, tell me who you'd pick
I don't really believe you believe this, just saying.

~

Also how to tell Mantis and I apart:

Sorta like when I'm playing with Mollie, but so much different <3

Mantis doesn't use caps. :P
Mantis loves multiples posts in a row. (This is an exception since I feel like spam posting <3 yay.)
If it sounds semi-snarky it's probably Mala. Mantis is sweeter than I am <3

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:31 pm
by artemiskitty
In post 727, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 724, artemiskitty wrote:
artemiskitty (mantis/mala) - paranoia about me could be a put on, but it looks pretty townish. Mantis also blatantly keeps asking lots of questions after mentioning it's part of her scum game.
GiF - we need to talk.

This is Mala speaking, but you confused Mantis' meta read of Fery with something you think Mantis is self metaing.
This is Fery speaking, and the above words were mine. It's two separate thoughts and the read is leaning town.

pedit Mala, he has no completed games at MS so far. I checked again earlier today.

Seriously now, no way. I really thought it was GiF.

And okay.

Yeah I was kinda hoping there was something here. There's nothing to really know how he would act one way or another. So a lynch on him is sorta a toss up for alignment information purposes. (still doesn't make me feel better)

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:34 pm
by Sound of Silence
You're talking about lynching Brian Skies?

I'm kinda not too thrilled about that idea tbh.

GiF's strongest scum read is Titus.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:39 pm
by artemiskitty
;-;

Don't talk about Paradox Prime. It brings unwanted, sad memories back up for me.

As for Nati's play he does coast as either alignment. He coasted when he was town in my game for a bit.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:41 pm
by artemiskitty
In post 730, Sound of Silence wrote:You're talking about lynching Brian Skies?

I'm kinda not too thrilled about that idea tbh.

GiF's strongest scum read is Titus.
I gotta talk to Mantis about it, but right now RT is making me really uneasy. Maybe it's just gut, but I'm not liking his current posts.

I also don't have ns giving me the same warm and fuzzy feelings he normally gives me as town.

Now see I can read Titus, but it's a later stage in the game.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:45 pm
by Sound of Silence
In post 731, artemiskitty wrote:;-;

Don't talk about Paradox Prime. It brings unwanted, sad memories back up for me.

As for Nati's play he does coast as either alignment. He coasted when he was town in my game for a bit.
IME he coasts on day 1 and becomes more proactive, though still in a sort of laid back way, on day 2.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:49 pm
by artemiskitty
In post 733, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 731, artemiskitty wrote:;-;

Don't talk about Paradox Prime. It brings unwanted, sad memories back up for me.

As for Nati's play he does coast as either alignment. He coasted when he was town in my game for a bit.
IME he coasts on day 1 and becomes more proactive, though still in a sort of laid back way, on day 2.
Yeah, actually I can see this somewhat in my game.

HB was a different experience though because Mac was able to hide behind him and then die and then BRO tracked Mac to Nati. So we couldn't see what scum-Nati would have played like on Day 2 because he was essentially cop-investigated.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:32 pm
by Sound of Silence
In post 734, artemiskitty wrote:
In post 733, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 731, artemiskitty wrote:;-;

Don't talk about Paradox Prime. It brings unwanted, sad memories back up for me.

As for Nati's play he does coast as either alignment. He coasted when he was town in my game for a bit.
IME he coasts on day 1 and becomes more proactive, though still in a sort of laid back way, on day 2.
Yeah, actually I can see this somewhat in my game.

HB was a different experience though because Mac was able to hide behind him and then die and then BRO tracked Mac to Nati. So we couldn't see what scum-Nati would have played like on Day 2 because he was essentially cop-investigated.
Yeah I know, and that's troubling.

But, what I saw in HB on day 1 was that he's maybe a little more accommodating of questions/requests/demands as scum than as town.

If all I have is town games, then all I can build is a town model, and look for stuff that doesn't fit that model. It's not as useful as a real scum model for comparison purposes, but it's better than nothing.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:47 pm
by Natirasha
Oh, girls, all this talking about me is making me blush.

Mala, Rail Tracer might be off on his tunnel of me, but he's really really townie.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:31 pm
by Rebel Without a Pulse
In post 625, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 621, Rebel Without a Pulse wrote:Wait, what do your reads look like?
You disagree about dessew?
Yup. I was probably wrong.
In post 661, artemiskitty wrote:i think nat and mario are town.

can we lynch notscience today?

VOTE: notscience
I think both are scum. Talk to me about Mario.
In post 666, Natirasha wrote:Rest assured, I'll place a vote on him when I'm ready. Let's see how he enters the thread today at least.
Why wait?
In post 706, Ranawey wrote:You didn't even gave me a day
I did! What are your thoughts?

If Natirasha isn't scum on that wagon in my sexvotecount, I'm guessing Brian is.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:37 pm
by Rail Tracer
ak wrote:So you want people to answer this without answering it yourself.
what are you smoking? it should be pretty fucking obvious who i think is scum on the wagon. (hint: you're wrong about my top three suspects not being on the wagon, you derptard)
ak wrote:Then you drill our slot to answer it after others ignored it.
because natirasha answered it and sos made it clear who they suspect? duh?
ak wrote:I don't really believe you believe this, just saying.
i have no retort for this. you win this battle!

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:41 pm
by Natirasha
Why wait?
The perceived impact of a vote can be just as important as the vote itself. I was exercising caution due to the facts in place. I'm bothered that everyone keeps asking me why I didn't vote immediately.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:46 pm
by Rail Tracer
who are you thinking about voting nacho?

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:55 pm
by Rebel Without a Pulse
In post 740, Rail Tracer wrote:who are you thinking about voting nacho?
Mario.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:12 pm
by Rail Tracer
your scum suspects are mario, nati and anyone else?

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:50 am
by Malakittens
So RT wanna actually talk to me like I'm a person or you want to continue treating me like I'm not one?

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:50 am
by Rebel Without a Pulse
Mogamma, probably.

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:10 am
by Rail Tracer
mala, i'm treating you like a person, just not one worth giving a serious response to.

when you start realising how blatantly obvious it is that i'm town and how off your reads are, we'll talk.

besides, there's nothing in your posts worth commenting on, really. this part i'm not saying in jest. i just couldn't find anything that was really worth discussing in anything you said.

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:11 am
by Rail Tracer
@ns,

thoughts on natirasha?

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:38 am
by Titus
In post 725, artemiskitty wrote:
In post 660, Rail Tracer wrote:i highly doubt dessew was perceived as a threat because of his suspicions. more likely PR hunting or something.

anyway, my pool of suspects today is {mario, mogamma, natirasha}. outside chance at titus and maaaaaaybe ns if someone can convince me, but these three i feel are most likely scum.

general question for anyone to answer: where's the scum on this wagon?

Daniel Bryan (7): Rebel Without a Pulse, Rail Tracer. Brian Skies, Sound of Silence, Natirasha, Dessew, Titus (LYNCH)
I can say though this post pinged a lot.

So you want people to answer this without answering it yourself. Seems like you are trying to see what people say in order to use that in the future for your benefit.

Your top three scum suspects are not
even
on this wagon so why are you asking others to answer it when you barely believe it yourself? You only stated Titus with hesitation, I might add.

Then you drill our slot to answer it after others ignored it.
I really like this post. I minimally read the opening of Day 2 but this post stood out. I usually suspect those who push questions that they don't answer.

Plus, I am surprised at the allegations of my coasting an being scum. My play has allowed for a lo of content, really at the end of day 1. The sudden switch by people suggests that NS really was scum and I am being setup. SoS's FoS is the only one that seems genuine.

VOTE: notscience

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:41 am
by Ranawey
@mod: Guess I was too ambitious and thought that replacing would be an easy or at least medium difficulty thing to do, but I'm really having a hard time trying to catchup. I feel extremely sorry, but I'll have to /replace out. I can't contribute, and this is most likely hurting town, maybe someone else could be more useful. Sorry guys, enjoy the game.

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:42 am
by Rail Tracer
what are your other reads, titus?