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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:50 pm

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And yes, by mafia aligned SK i mean a scum with an extra NK.
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:59 pm

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d3sisted wrote:Then lynch me, foo.
Please continue digging your own grave while I try to decide if you are scum or SK and wait for the mod to answer my question.
d3sisted wrote:And yes, by mafia aligned SK i mean a scum with an extra NK.
= =. That's not a SK is it?

My scumdar has been extraordinarily bad this game, except for targeting WhoMe? N1.

HackerHuck's predecessor's actions are way scummy.

I think death_omen is the SK, because of N2.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:00 pm

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Streeflo wrote: My scumdar has been extraordinarily bad this game, except for targeting WhoMe? N1.
Actually, it was only bad yesterday. Nevermind this.
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:34 pm

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Streeflo wrote:Plus, how would Death_Omen being unkillable explain the lack of a nightkill D2?
Streeflo wrote:I think death_omen is the SK, because of N2.
Did you answer your own question?

d3sisted, how come you haven't volunteered the name of your target last night?

I'm also curious why you chose your target Streeflo...
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:46 pm

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How did I choose my target Streeflo?
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:49 pm

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HackerHuck wrote: I'm also curious why you chose your target Streeflo...
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Streeflo - I'm also curious why you chose your target...
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:49 pm

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Wait, nevermind. Misconstrued it because you're missing a comma.

I protected streeflo last night. Your last post was weird this way because it seemed like somehow you had knowledge that I targetted Streeflo last night.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:54 am

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Good luck, Evil Geniuses!
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:39 am

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Ay me, I die (again!).
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:53 pm

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Atm I'm thinking HackerHulk is the sk, he seems pretty picky about what other roles people have and is more concerned to venter into the past instead of looking whats about to come up and what we are faced with.

I am an Evil Genius Alligned Minion no powers, no abilities but im just here..

Im willing to bet the scums have a roleblocker because it seems so unlikely that one of the people undo targeted last night would have survived.

Streeflo you still havent answered my question on post 712, if you are the vig then why did you chose to use your power tonight unless you were dead sure you would hit the right people? This choice makes me doubt your allignment/role even more.
Wait, nevermind. Misconstrued it because you're missing a comma.

I protected streeflo last night. Your last post was weird this way because it seemed like somehow you had knowledge that I targetted Streeflo last night.
This post concerns me, how did Hacker know he protected Streeflo? Or it could be a double whammy from d3sisted?
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:01 pm

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d3sisted, how come you haven't volunteered the name of your target last night?

I'm also curious why you chose your target Streeflo...
I assumed both were questions directed to me. If I took it that way, somehow he had previous knowledge that I chose streeflo as my target even though I hadn't mentioned it yet.
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:04 pm

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death_omen wrote:Atm I'm thinking HackerHulk is the sk, he seems pretty picky about what other roles people have and is more concerned to venter into the past instead of looking whats about to come up and what we are faced with.
Interesting comment. I'm concerned about the roles people have because we need to be certain about what roles may be out there and who we need to target. The only way to determine what's out there is by looking back at what has happened. If there are two mafia, we have to kill one of them or they will win.

Maybe you can answer the question for me. Why do you think you survived the night when Streeflo claimed to have targeted you?
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Wait, nevermind. Misconstrued it because you're missing a comma.

I protected streeflo last night. Your last post was weird this way because it seemed like somehow you had knowledge that I targetted Streeflo last night.
This post concerns me, how did Hacker know he protected Streeflo? Or it could be a double whammy from d3sisted?
I don't like how you're trying to strawman me here. I was asking the same question of Streeflo that you did and you assumed I was asking d3sisted even though I just explained what I meant with my post.
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:49 pm

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Im willing to bet there is a roleblocker as I mentioned above. This is what I thought because logically odds are that undo might have got roleblocked because if he didnt we would have an extra person still with us. As for me not dying a roleblock might have been used against streeflo to take his powers out of the game because he did claim pretty early..

But HH do you still believe Streeflo's role claim, a vig is meant for the town why would he chose to kill on night 3 when he knows that we will be a lynch or lose tomorrow. I just cant see a vig playing like that.
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:01 pm

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death_omen wrote: Streeflo you still havent answered my question on post 712, if you are the vig then why did you chose to use your power tonight unless you were dead sure you would hit the right people? This choice makes me doubt your allignment/role even more.
I was waiting for d3sisted to claim his nightchoice.

I was dead certain that either MissMoo or Erg0 was scum. I didn't find Erg0's role believable, and I didn't realize the deadline had hit so quick when CES was lynched. I did not like that lynch.

I was thinking about targeting Erg0, but I knew that a SK would target Erg0 because they would think he was scum too. I did not want to revive Erg0 so I targeted MissMoo instead, hoping that two scum would die that night.

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A roleblock might be possible. HOWEVER, I really doubt a mafia roleblocker would choose to roleblock me over a one-shot reviver. Plus, it doesn't fit into the flavor of the game.

By the way, stop misrepresenting HackerHuck. It seemed clear he was directing the question at me.
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:48 pm

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death_omen wrote:But HH do you still believe Streeflo's role claim, a vig is meant for the town why would he chose to kill on night 3 when he knows that we will be a lynch or lose tomorrow. I just cant see a vig playing like that.
I still have my doubts on Streeflo's claim, much like everyone elses. I'm not convinced that any of you are town anymore.

I will say that I'm certain d3sisted isn't the SK. Doc is a horrible SK claim, since that would make him a pretty certain night target.

Right now, I'm thinking:
D3sisted - mafia
death_omen - sk
Streeflo - town (but possibly scum/independent role)

So based on my current thinking, I won't be voting for death_omen. I'm leaning toward D3sisted, but I'm trying to figure out how Streeflo fits into the picture before I vote.
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:56 pm

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That's interesting because I still think you are scum, along with Streeflo.
That said, I don't really mind that you are advocating lynching the claimed Doc, seeing as you are scum.
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:10 pm

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What I was asking the mod (who hasn't replied yet) is the scum's win condition.

There can't be two scum today, or they would have won already.

I'm curious to see how a two scumgroup will work out here. There wouldn't be a Godfather, but what would the other scum's power be?
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:40 pm

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It's 3 votes to lynch, not 2.
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:28 pm

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But town will never get the lynch they want, because they'll never get 3 votes.

It will have to eventually go into night through a no lynch or otherwise. They basically control the vote.
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:34 pm

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Damn, I don't have the balls to vote anyone right now, thought I'm pretty confident in my suspicions.
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:11 pm

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Scum letting the doc survive to endgame is not a winning strategy for them. That's a point against you. It's interesting that Streeflo didn't believe you enough to waste his protect on you. Do you believe it's likely that the two of you are both docs?
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:21 pm

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It's not that they wanted me around, but that they felt Erg0's role took precedence.
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:43 pm

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Because your role only works to prevent mafia kills?

You still didn't answer my question about the multiple doctor roles in this game. Do you find it likely that we would have your role, Erg0's role, and Streeflo's role? Obviously, at least one of you is lying.
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:57 pm

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From my position, either I accept the existence of 3 docs, or I must accept a mafia member with extra NK. Hence, I feel 3 docs is more likely. There was a time when I thought mafia with extra NK was possible, but after checking out past games, this idea seems extremely foreign now, and quite implausible.

I am alive because the scum played the nk WIFOM game with streeflo and lost. Or they just opted for safety and went with the next best kill they had. They may have expected Erg0 to immunize streeflo, hence chose not to nk the vig.
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:55 am

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Atm I'm leaning to Streeflo/HackerHulk being sk/scum over d3sisted.
As for HH's 3 doc suspects I think we can take out Erg0 and put the spotlight on d3sisted and Streeflo, one of them is lying.
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