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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:09 pm
by Sonic Boom
↑ istott wrote:At this moment, I still feel comfortable voting prohawk. I would also be fine with Guille being lynched. These two are my main scumreads at the moment.
For Guille, take a look at this:
↑ guille2015 wrote:Fine Fine,
My shos explanation is Up there.
I'll get into more detail in a little while.

↑ guille2015 wrote:Little by little sonic is growing in scummyness. But if my memory serves correctly i've played the heads or hydra and they have played similarly. Don't recall if they were scum or not.
Must check it later.

↑ guille2015 wrote:The sad part about everything is that i don't understand why others pinned you as town during your first half of the game.
I must check that.

↑ guille2015 wrote:and yes, I know the deadline is coming up.
I'll get to it
when my mind clears.

↑ guille2015 wrote:
Ok, I'm going to have to ISO prohawk without any bias
. Can't do it right know.

Are you a politician? You are reeking of active lurking.
In fact, while I am still scumreading Prohawk, I feel my vote would be better on VOTE: Guille.
I plan on doing a quickfire round of questions, if anyone has any questions they would like me to answer (that can be answered quickly), fire away!


Istott is town

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:11 pm
by istott
↑ Sonic Boom wrote:
↑ istott wrote:At this moment, I still feel comfortable voting prohawk. I would also be fine with Guille being lynched. These two are my main scumreads at the moment.
For Guille, take a look at this:
↑ guille2015 wrote:Fine Fine,
My shos explanation is Up there.
I'll get into more detail in a little while.

↑ guille2015 wrote:Little by little sonic is growing in scummyness. But if my memory serves correctly i've played the heads or hydra and they have played similarly. Don't recall if they were scum or not.
Must check it later.

↑ guille2015 wrote:The sad part about everything is that i don't understand why others pinned you as town during your first half of the game.
I must check that.

↑ guille2015 wrote:and yes, I know the deadline is coming up.
I'll get to it
when my mind clears.

↑ guille2015 wrote:
Ok, I'm going to have to ISO prohawk without any bias
. Can't do it right know.

Are you a politician? You are reeking of active lurking.
In fact, while I am still scumreading Prohawk, I feel my vote would be better on VOTE: Guille.
I plan on doing a quickfire round of questions, if anyone has any questions they would like me to answer (that can be answered quickly), fire away!


Istott is town

Any reason?

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:14 pm
by Metal Sonic
Because of the quoted post

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:15 pm
by Sonic Boom
↑ Metal Sonic wrote:Because of the quoted post


Oh noes! Mastina sees all!

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:18 pm
by istott
What, for giving my opinion? Or because I didnt scumread you?

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:28 pm
by Voidedmafia
↑ istott wrote:What, for giving my opinion? Or because I didnt scumread you?

Probly the latter at this point.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:29 pm
by istott
↑ Voidedmafia wrote:
↑ istott wrote:What, for giving my opinion? Or because I didnt scumread you?

Probly the latter at this point.

Yeah, I agree.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:08 pm
by istott
Mastin2: I will be leaving to go to another state for my sister's engagement party. I will be leaving at around 6pm GMT on Friday, and will get back at around 6am GMT on Monday. Local time, i'm leaving at 7am, so I probably wont have time to post before I wake up, so consider me VLA from 11am GMT on Friday to 6 am GMT on Monday.


<<< Alright, got it. >>>

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:29 pm
by pirate mollie
↑ ProHawk wrote:
↑ Mathdino wrote:You claim that you've been seeing me as scummy


Prove this. Now. Or you are guilty of a heinous lie and shall be lynched as such. Your head will dangle.

Next. You said I lied about Mollie not producing content. What I said was:

"But offhandedly I can't think of any content you have produced either... so there is that."

Question: How is that a lie class?

Answer: It's not because I LITERALLY couldn't think of any content Mollie had produced. You can't know if I was ACTUALLY lying or not because you can't see into my brain.

Your case is full of holes, my flip will drown you.


except I had provided content at the time? so you are attacking math thing's argument for saying that I had produced content while you had not? and you hadn't. it was a false correlation you tried to make in order to try to dismantle the argument that math thing presented.

how interesting you are staying away from bulba and any tirade he gets involved in.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:52 pm
by DrippingGoofball
↑ Sonic Boom wrote:Eyes on you, DGB


huh?

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:01 pm
by mastin2
I leave you for two hours.
Two hours.
And you give me a whole lotta new work to do.

...Well-done!


Image
guille2015 is at L-2.


Twenty-Fourth Votecount
:

guille2015 - 5 (Voidedmafia, Bulbazak, istott, ProHawk, Sonic Boom)

Voidedmafia - 3 (pirate mollie, Nazarene, shos)

ProHawk - 1 (Mathdino)
ika - 1 (guille2015)

Not voting - 3 (EddieFenix, DrippingGoofBall, ika)

With
13
alive, it's
7
to lynch.

Day One's deadline is Wednesday, November 19th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2014-11-19 16:15:00).


Spoiler: Changes from last votecount
Voidedmafia - 3 (pirate mollie, Nazarene, shos)
ProHawk - 1 (
istott
, Mathdino)
guille2015 - 5 (Voidedmafia, Bulbazak,
istott
,
ProHawk
,
Sonic Boom
)
Mathdino - 0 (
ProHawk
)
ika - 1 (guille2015)
DrippingGoofBall - 0 (
Sonic Boom
)

Not voting - 3 (EddieFenix, DrippingGoofBall, ika)
Last votecount was page 29, post 703.
Spoiler: Player Vote History D1
shos:
Nazarene->Jackel98->Bulbazak->guille2015->UNVOTE->guille2015->ProHawk->Voidedmafia
Nazarene:
pirate mollie->shos->Voidedmafia->Sonic Boom->Voidedmafia
Voidedmafia:
Nazarene->ProHawk->shos->Jackel98->guille2015->Sonic Boom->ProHawk->
UNVOTE
->ProHawk->guille2015
Sonic Boom:
Jackel98->
UNVOTE
->shos->guille2015->DrippingGoofBall->guille2015
Bulbazak:
Nazarene->Voidedmafia->Sonic Boom->ika->Sonic Boom->EddieFenix->ika->Doyouthinkhesaurus->guille2015
EddieFenix:
Bulbazak->Sonic Boom->
UNVOTE

ProHawk:
shos->pirate mollie->shos->Doyouthinkhesaurus->guille2015
ika:
Sonic Boom->
UN-VOTE

Doyouthinkhesaurus/Mathdino:
Nazarene->ProHawk->EddieFenix->ProHawk
BBMolla/guille2015:
DrippingGoofBall->ika | shos->
UN-VOTE
->Sonic Boom->
UN-VOTE
->ika
pirate mollie:
Voidedmafia->Jackel98->Voidedmafia->shos->Sonic Boom->
UN-VOTE
->Voidedmafia
Jackel98/istott:
BBMolla->shos | guille2015->ProHawk->guille2015
DrippingGoofBall:
EddieFenix->pirate mollie->
UN-VOTE
->EddieFenix->Sonic Boom->UN-VOTE->EddieFenix->
UN-VOTE
Spoiler: Voting Chronology for D1
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 05:21p,
Nazarene
Votes
pirate mollie
in post 54.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 05:22p,
Doyouthinkhesaurus
Votes
Nazarene
in post 55.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 05:58p,
Voidedmafia
votes
Nazarene
in post 59.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 07:57p,
Jackel98
Votes
BBMolla
in post 71.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 08:25p,
Bulbazak
votes
Nazarene
in post 72.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 12:46a,
shos
Votes
Nazarene
in post 83.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 06:44a,
ProHawk
Votes
shos
in post 99.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 07:05a,
EddieFenix
votes
Bulbazak
in post 100.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 01:37p,
Vodedmafia
votes
ProHawk
in post 108.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 03:43p,
DrippingGoofBall
Votes
EddieFenix
in post 115.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 05:10a,
Nazarene
Votes
shos
in post 120.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 01:21p,
Jackel98
Votes
shos
in post 130.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 03:06p,
Voidedmafia
votes
shos
in post 133.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 08:27p,
pirate mollie
Votes
Voidedmafia
in post 138.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 08:32p,
BBMolla
Votes
DrippingGoofBall
in post 139.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 04:31a,
Nazarene
Votes
Voidedmafia
in post 160.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 12:01p,
Bulbazak
unvotes, and votes
Voidedmafia
in post 169.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 02:13p,
Doyouthinkhesaurus
unvotes
Nazarene
and votes
ProHawk
in post 178.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 06:45p,
ika
Votes
Sonic Boom
in post 183.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 08:34p,
BBMolla
Unvotes, and Votes
ika
in post 188.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 09:33p,
ProHawk
Votes
pirate mollie
in post 190.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 09:34p,
pirate mollie
Votes
Jackel98
in post 192.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 09:53p,
Sonic Boom
Votes
Jackel98
in post 193.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 11:14p,
Bulbazak
unvotes, and votes
Sonic Boom
in post 201.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 11:16p,
Voidedmafia
votes
Jackel98
in post 202.
On Sun, Nov 11/09/14 @ 12:10p,
DrippingGoofBall
Votes
pirate mollie
in post 224.
On Sun, Nov 11/09/14 @ 07:22p,
pirate mollie
Votes
Voidedmafia
in post 238.
On Sun, Nov 11/09/14 @ 10:06p,
ProHawk
Votes
shos
in post 248.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 03:26a,
shos
Votes
Jackel98
in post 252.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 11:37a,
Sonic Boom
unvotes in post 267.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 03:23p,
shos
Votes
Bulbazak
in post 281.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 06:14p,
DrippingGoofBall
Unvotes in post 290.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 06:16p,
DrippingGoofBall
Votes
EddieFenix
in post 291.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 08:49p,
pirate mollie
Votes
shos
in post 297.
On Tue, Nov 11/11/14 @ 05:05a,
Sonic Boom
Votes
shos
in post 306.
On Wed, Nov 11/12/14 @ 03:41p,
guille2015
(BBMolla) votes
shos
in post 353.
On Wed, Nov 11/12/14 @ 04:56p,
Voidedmafia
votes
guille2015
in post 365.
On Thu, Nov 11/13/14 @ 04:48a,
shos
Votes
guille2015
in post 378.
On Thu, Nov 11/13/14 @ 04:29p,
Bulbazak
unvotes, and votes
ika
in post 407.
On Thu, Nov 11/13/14 @ 07:56p,
istott
Unvotes
shos
and Votes
guille2015
in post 413.
On Thu, Nov 11/13/14 @ 08:37p,
Sonic Boom
Votes
guille2015
in post 415.
On Thu, Nov 11/13/14 @ 10:45p,
Bulbazak
unvotes, and votes
Sonic Boom
in post 421.
On Fri, Nov 11/14/14 @ 07:14a,
guille2015
Unvotes
shos
in post 434.
On Fri, Nov 11/14/14 @ 07:30a,
guille2015
Votes
Sonic Boom
in post 435.
On Fri, Nov 11/14/14 @ 02:04p,
Vodedmafia
votes
Sonic Boom
in post 442.
On Fri, Nov 11/14/14 @ 02:53p,
pirate mollie
Votes
Sonic Boom
in post 443.
On Fri, Nov 11/14/14 @ 04:36p,
DrippingGoofBall
Votes
Sonic Boom
in post 445.
On Fri, Nov 11/14/14 @ 10:33p,
Bulbazak
unvotes, and votes
EddieFenix
in post 467.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 12:11a,
Nazarene
Votes
Sonic Boom
in post 472.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 05:38a,
shos
unvotes (
guille2015
) in post 482.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 08:58a,
DrippingGoofBall
Unvotes in post 492.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 09:24a,
EddieFenix
unvotes, and votes
Sonic Boom
in post 497.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 01:25p,
DrippingGoofBall
Votes
EddieFenix
in post 506.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 02:25p,
Doyouthinkhesaurus
Unvotes
ProHawk
and Votes
EddieFenix
in post 513.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 02:33p,
shos
Votes
guille2015
in post 514.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 05:33p,
guille2015
Unvotes
Sonic Boom
in post 515.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 05:49p,
guille2015
votes
ika
in post 518.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 07:07p,
ProHawk
Votes
Doyouthinkhesaurus
in post 520.
On Sat, Nov 11/15/14 @ 11:08p,
Bulbazak
unvotes, and votes
ika
in post 530.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 01:15a,
shos
Votes
ProHawk
in post 533.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 03:53a,
istott
Votes
ProHawk
in post 543.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 06:37a,
EddieFenix
unvotes
Sonic Boom
in post 544.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 10:31a,
Voidedmafia
votes
ProHawk
in post 559.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 10:43a,
Bulbazak
unvotes, and votes
Doyouthinkhesaurus
in post 561.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 01:42p,
pirate mollie
Unvotes
Sonic Boom
in post 572.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 01:46p,
Voidedmafia
unvotes [prohawk] in post 574.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 01:47p,
pirate mollie
Votes
Voidedmafia
in post 575.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 03:13p,
Nazarene
Votes
Voidedmafia
in post 580.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 06:44p,
DrippingGoofBall
Unvotes in post 598.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 09:52p,
ika
Unvotes in post 603.
On Sun, Nov 11/16/14 @ 10:22p,
Doyouthinkhesaurus/Mathdino
Unvotes
EddieFenix
and Votes
ProHawk
in post 610.
On Mon, Nov 11/17/14 @ 02:31p,
Voidedmafia
votes
ProHawk
in post 634.
On Tue, Nov 11/18/14 @ 10:29a,
Sonic Boomb
Votes
DrippingGoofBall
in post 688.
On Tue, Nov 11/18/14 @ 01:34p,
Voidedmafia
votes
guille2015
in post 697.
On Tue, Nov 11/18/14 @ 01:41p,
Bulbazak
unvotes, and votes
guille2015
in post 701.
On Tue, Nov 11/18/14 @ 01:43p,
shos
Votes
Voidedmafia
in post 702.
On Tue, Nov 11/18/14 @ 05:31p,
istott
Votes
guille2015
in post 714.
On Tue, Nov 11/18/14 @ 05:45p,
ProHawk
Votes
guille2015
in post 719.
On Tue, Nov 11/18/14 @ 06:08p,
Sonic Boom
Votes
guille2015
in post 724.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:07 pm
by Nazarene
This Head is very disappointed with this deadline wagon. This Head hates all deadline wagons.

This Head is even more disappointed that obv-scum SB is not being lynched because he claimed a PR, which is setting a precedent that makes it easy for scum to get through Day 1 intact.

Nevertheless, the Heads want a lynch, but this Head at least will be on before deadline, so the Heads currently have no interest in changing our vote.

Vote voided.

-A

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:17 pm
by ProHawk
↑ pirate mollie wrote:how interesting you are staying away from bulba and any tirade he gets involved in.


How interesting you completely ignored everything I said about you.

Also, sue me for not remembering your contributions that weren't worth remembering in the first place.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:06 pm
by Sonic Boom
Titus can help with the suing^

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:10 pm
by ProHawk
Does she do the suing or defending?

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:15 pm
by Sonic Boom
She is a defense lawyer actually

But since you are more active than mollie I can ask her to defend you from the suing

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:17 pm
by EddieFenix
Hey Bulb, why the vote on Guille?

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:41 pm
by Bulbazak
↑ pirate mollie wrote:
you were actively discrediting me in that game. period. end of story.


I don't consider calling you paranoid a discredit, but whatever.

↑ pirate mollie wrote:
I was in that game. guess what I am not here.


I'm confused. Are we talking about paranoia or something else?

↑ pirate mollie wrote:
^ erm...wat? you did discredit dgb that is why she is saying she is moping around being useless. own it.


I think we have 2 different views of discrediting. I see it as a scum tactic to weaken a push, which is not what I was trying to do with DGB. All I said at the time was that she tends to derpwagon, which was my effort to get Eddie to shift his focus off of DGB's tunneling. I know him, and he would get obsessed and paranoid about it, something which I was hoping to avoid.

↑ pirate mollie wrote:
and no1 was voting you so how exactly was attention being drawn off of math thing and onto you? and it is citing specific instances where you said that dgb's play was shit is explicitly discrediting her. math thing is discrediting your case not you as a player while you are discrediting dgb as a player. there is a difference.


I was getting it confused with what it eventually led to. Again, saying that DGB tends to derpwagon or tunnel is not my definition of discrediting, and it was an aside to a friend in an effort to get him to focus on other things. I didn't think it was worth commenting on, and if it was, it should have stopped with your experience of her play. It was you calling it a discredit that got to me, and that whole conversation and what stemmed out of it was a humongous distraction at a very important juncture.

↑ pirate mollie wrote:
tell me how this is prohawk's town game.


His statements when examined in context tend to have a little bit of weight behind them, and he's looking at motivation and intent, which is real scumhunting, not fake.

↑ Mathdino wrote:Somehow I feel like Bulba pulling 3 different games, links, and analysis isn't an "offhand comment to Eddie".
Somehow I feel like you don't get to blame someone else for a conflict that you had.

This conversation is literally the dumbest possible one we could be having this close to LyLo, FFS.


Mollie, this is scum posting, as he's simply trying to stoke the fire.

↑ Mathdino wrote:
I underlined the misreps for you. He came up with a conspiracy theory in which 3 people are asking for a CC, which is simply not true. This is misrepping. Not ONCE did I say that I was calling for a counterclaim today.


Neither of those are misreps. One is a conclusion based on analysis. The other states that Sonic's partners were calling for a counter claim, which, again, is a theory based on analysis. The only way that is a misrep is if you're scum, and that was not what you were doing. Is that the case?

↑ Mathdino wrote:
3. It's strawmanning because he keeps fighting against the idea that DGB, guille and I are asking for a counterclaim and rolefishing, which I am not (can't really speak for them).


Frankly, you have no idea what the terms you're using mean. Just stop. Unless he's trying to summarize your argument as the above in an effort to defeat you, it's not strawmanning.

↑ Nazarene wrote:
Bulba, give me a SUMMARY of your point on mathdino.
Three lines of text.
You can do it.
-Tier


Dino's posting has been for show, and there is zero genuine scumhunting. His case on ProHawk contained zero analysis and focused on an easy non-reason that he could push: fluff, which he just repeated over and over without explaining. Since being on the defensive, he's resorted to buzzwords to try to push or discredit lines of reasoning, and he's tried to strawman my case by saying that I'm only scumreading him for his vote on ProHawk, which is not true.

↑ EddieFenix wrote:Hey Bulb, why the vote on Guille?


Compromise. You have 18 hours. What are you going to do?

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:49 pm
by ika
damn i just calculated where i will be in 18 hrs and its most likely scool (got wrk in morn)

i guess i will have to ask what the plan is atm cus im going to slerp soon

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:10 pm
by Voidedmafia
Vote me or vote guille.

Preferably Guille.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:15 pm
by Mathdino
I'm more comfortable with a guille lynch than Voided, but at the same time I feel like guille's become lynchbait for bad maneuvers.

I'll be around to hammer by the deadline if it comes to that, but for now I'm sticking with ProHawk or Fenix.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:16 pm
by ika
↑ Voidedmafia wrote:Vote me or vote guille.

Preferably Guille.


VOTE: void
VOTE: gile

how about both?

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:22 pm
by Mathdino
gg, ika solved D1

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:31 pm
by EddieFenix
I will check in at some point BEFORE lynch tomorrow and have a decision made by then

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:31 pm
by mastin2
Bumpity, bump, bump, look at mastin go!
Bumpity bump, bump, oh, don't you know!

Mastin, the shameless mod she can be,
Not afraid to make things go bump-i-ty!
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