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↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:Bookitty... what happened to you? What happened to us? What cruel world finds us as diametrically opposed to one another? Evil such as Baron Happlebap feels righteous to hunt down: like it is a particularly engaging sport, or video game. But lynching you even though you are scum simply hurts

At this point, I'm going to discuss some of my feelings and I'm not even going to care if your votes rain down upon me like whipped cream sliding off the top of an oversized ice cream sundae and onto the patent-leather shoes of a toddler on Sunday.

I have no clue why you think I'm scum, nor do I honestly care. I've never played with Titus before, so I don't have a good handle on her; same with you, though I'm sure you're town here because of F-16.

NotScience replaced out and T-Bone came in. I didn't think the hammer was especially telling, but my vote on Nobody Special was intended to elicit reactions. The reactions I EXPECTED were "Oh, he always plays like that," and sheep sheep sheep given that people were saying they couldn't keep up with the game. I also wanted a reaction from Nobody Special that has YET to materialise.

These were not the reactions I got. T-Bone had a conniption about people voting for Nobody Special when they were on Espeonage's wagon. However, both of the people who had voted for Nobody Special at that point had done so PRIOR to the replacement request. Muffin hadn't voted for Nobody Special yet when T-Bone began his diatribe.

Whenever I hear people saying "Everyone on the wagon is responsible!" I start thinking that they are posturing. T-Bone is no exception to this rule. It's such an obvious thing to say, especially given that we lost a player who was giving us zero way to read him. Yeah, he was town, but he wasn't helpful town. I believe that someone who sashays in and spills a Cheeto-smeared hammer vote all over the already besmudged wagon is ALSO responsible. Slamming down the hammer doesn't make you LESS responsible, but that's the tone that derives from T-Bone's comments.

I find it really ironic that AngryPidgeon then votes Titus for "fake posturing" when T-Bone's tone changes COMPLETELY after I correct some of his mistakes. All of Post 700 feels like fake outrage to me.

AngryPidgeon's Yesterday suspicions have all vanished with a town lynch. Titus wasn't on that lynch, by the way. She actually warned people off it. AngryPidgeon argued with her about it in Post 677 and was arguing also for T-Bone/NotScience scum while keeping his vote safely on ChannelDelibird, someone I think is town.

This evolution makes no real sense to me:

↑ AngryPidgeon wrote:Tbone replaced....NS. I kind of see Titus's vote there right now. I'm frankly going to go right ahead and assert that Ika was probably bussed because I know I would have if I were scum.

↑ AngryPidgeon wrote:

↑ Titus wrote:@AP, If you think Tbone is pond scum growing on a dam, then why didn't you vote him?

Because I don't think that.

↑ AngryPidgeon wrote:T-bone replaces NotScience. My read on NotScience waffled between light town and null-scum. I am tempted to drink muffin's koolaid on the slot because T-bone's hammer in one post schtick felt off from my limited experience of T-bone and I thought T-bone's defense

↑ T-Bone wrote:I dropped the proverbial emerald (SOOOOO SHINY) into Ika's coffin because he was scum. lol at 'T-Bone hammered to shut Ika up".... Are we reading the same game? The same game in which someone complained about Ika's LACK OF posting? Ika was the inevitable lynch, so let's not pretend I'm scummy because I came in and finished it. Certainly not to "shut him up".

was technically valid, buuuuuut I didn't like it. I think town would be more likely to approach this differently rather than try to pin a contradiction on Titus. I think there is some interesting thought behind what Titus said here and instead of trying to understand her perspective (and she is a person of interest given who she replaced) just takes what is on the surface and scoffs at it. Meh. Not sure. I'd probably vote this Today.

↑ AngryPidgeon wrote:

↑ Titus wrote:@AP, How long have you thought TBone was pondscum on a damn? Your recent mobility on him is giving me headaches.

Have you read the game? I have been talking about NotScience a fair amount before Tbone replaced him. I thought T-bone's posts in the thread all looked less than town. I don't know what you think you see with my 'progression' but you are clearly missing something important.

My gut has been rumbling about AngryPidgeon from the start. (My ISO will bear this out, I'm sure.) I still have Nacho as town, Ffery as town (though she seems a bit detached -- not going to read into that right now), ChannelDelibird as town. I think Titus is town too. T-Bone could be scum too, but I'm not thinking Nobody Special is scum at the moment. More a null read for me.

My most confident scumread at the moment is AngryPidgeon, so that is where I'm going to dump my vote like a big old plate of pasta marinara on the pristine ivory tablecloth of this game. I was deferring to others with more experience with him, but I'm done with that now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: AngryPidgeon

BooKitty you wiggle more than a worm fertiziling the ground while on adderall. Stop it. Let's pick any one of the three and fucking stay put. I'm fine with NS, TBone or AP but you're basically making it impossible to get a wagon stable because you are jumping around so much.

I'm thinking you're town, Titus, but I don't think your addition of lemon sauce stains really helps my new spring frock stand out from the crowd.

I'm not so fine with NS. I'm okay with T-Bone, but I'm sticking with AngryPidgeon. I don't care about people sheeping me or building a stable wagon this early in the day; I'm interested in voting for the people I think are scum. I was all for building a consensus among people I think are town, but that depends on my trust in their judgment. There's no point in building a town bloc when I think town is being wrong. Being wrong doesn't make them scum, but it surely reduces my trust in their reads.

↑ Bookitty wrote:My most confident scumread at the moment is AngryPidgeon

Ya its just as good as that espeonage wagon you quicklynched!

Full of bile.

Bookitty again, I was trying to explain my thought process, and I got ahead of myself and was asking you about something that Muffin actually did, something I meant to ask Muffin about. I must have been distracted by Amanda Bynes latest meltdown on TV or something. In all that my point was to not accuse you or really anyone for the espionage lynch, but to ask those who were around and could have let the replacement come in (Brantz and Muffin and then NS) why they did not. It wasn't about deflecting off of NS, it wasn't about throwing accusations everywhere it was about discussing the chain of events that led to the lynch.

↑ Bookitty wrote:Whenever I hear people saying "Everyone on the wagon is responsible!" I start thinking that they are posturing.

Or maybe you should actually consider the point that was being made, which was that the votes on NS made no fucking sense whatsoever and many of them were hypocrtical!

Have you made a non-hypocritical vote or a vote that wasn't on town for that matter? I suppose you voted F16 at some point before abandoning that vote like a [analogy too offensive, censored] yet you are quick to remind us about it!

You know your last post reminded me why you are town. and its because your suspicion on me is pretty genuine. Just as genuine as the facedecking happening on my end when I read it. Ugh no my lips are all quivering with naughty words.

Shit I forgot about BRantz softclaim.

Hes still alive though. And its 17p game witha JK + mason/mason and 2 flipped goons. Im guessing 4 Town PRs max since this seems to be a relatively vanilla game.

-clears throat-

So I need to think about that. I thought BRantz soft claim was pretty town, but not totally buying it based on what is here.

Hes already softclaimed so:
fullclaim next post or get dunked. tyvm

↑ AngryPidgeon wrote:Have you made a non-hypocritical vote or a vote that wasn't on town for that matter? I suppose you voted F16 at some point before abandoning that vote like a [analogy too offensive, censored] yet you are quick to remind us about it!

I'm glad you chose to dump your cheese sauce all over my dress, but joke's on you -- it's already that colour of orange. Ha!

None of what you're saying here relates to anything I've done. I was dead wrong about Espeonage, you betcha. I did vote F-16 when I was suspicious of him BUT I didn't have a thing to do with his death and I wasn't voting him when he was modkilled. I voted Ika even though I was only meh-convinced he was scum when I did so; it was his later actions that made me feel it was probably merited.

So put up or shut up. Where have I been "quick to remind us about it" that I voted F-16? When have I EVER used that as a reason to think I'm town?

You're making this stuff up, AP. I already pointed this out once, you agreed and then omg here it is again. So quotes or it didn't happen.

I'm going to go wash my dress, not because of the cheese stain, but because I don't know where your hand has been.

↑ Bookitty wrote:This evolution makes no real sense to me:

Thats because you aren't really capable of understanding other peoples perspectives if they aren't 100% purely logical and organized.

To be 100% clear Im saying you are bad at mafia.

I'm done being Mr. Nice guy this game, its time for people to get dunked.

Other people need to start posting disappointing things so I can townread them accordingly as well.

Ffery, how is your liver doing? You didn't really seem too concerned about the speed of the espe lynch yesterday despite me expressing (admittedly casual) doubts about it. Nacho, why are you just chugging right along here? I think BooKitty is likely a vote Baron Happlebap would make

Look you don't seem to get it.

I dont give a shit about arguing with you.

You are terrible at reading me.

You have only annoyed me all game by nitpicking the shit out of the posts I make and not caring about my overall attitude which is really glaringly town.

You are wasting everyone's time by distracting from people who are actually scum.

Stop contributing to the bile in the thread.

I am not going to go fish up quotes that show just how disappointed in you I am, jesus christ.

Imagine my surprise that you're not going to come up with quotes that don't exist.

Almost as shocking as when my quintuple decker ice cream cone ended up mostly on my shirt. That was shocking too.

Having an illogical thought process is one thing. Being wishy-washy and coming down on every side of an issue is another. Your out-of-game outbursts about "unethical players" and players who are "bad at Mafia" just read as so much noise to me.

Nitpicking is part of Mafia. If this is your normal playstyle and you're so obviously town, I'm sure my one vote will be a lonely little crusade replete with chocolate-smeared fingers and cheap romance novels. So you got nothing to worry about, right?

↑ AngryPidgeon wrote:Ffery, how is your liver doing? You didn't really seem too concerned about the speed of the espe lynch yesterday despite me expressing (admittedly casual) doubts about it. Nacho, why are you just chugging right along here? I think BooKitty is likely a vote Baron Happlebap would make

Bronchitis and beer were a thing. still are.

Anyway, I kept my vote off espe despite thinking he was scum because I thought he'd be replaced. If I'd seen the L-1 vote I would have spoken up.

I'm going on a valentines day hike! So no play-by-play from me until later.

I'd like to understand Nacho's reasons for voting Bookitty. I don't like BRantz. I am getting unpleasant vibes about T-Bone's indignation about the hammer.

I've liked CDB for town most of the game but I feel like he's not had a lot of impact.

↑ fferyllt wrote:I am getting unpleasant vibes about T-Bone's indignation about the hammer.

Kinda oldnews here . I am having trouble discerning if I actually think T-bone's recent indignation is townish or Im just feeling contrarian. I really want to firm up my Nacho read Today at some point. His espe and Boo votes are not really making my stomach feel any better. I mainly thought his adamant attitude about not being on F16's team was likely town. IT seemed genuine at least, but Im getting concerned that isn't a great reason to townbin someone.

What indignation about the hammer? Honestly, I know I'm distracted by Kim Kardashian's marriage, but is no one actually reading my posts? Literally I have been asking why Espionage was lynched when the Mods were in the process of being replaced. It doesn't get any fucking clearer than that. I asked that because a few players either were voting him and posted after the Mods said this OR added votes to the wagon after the Mods said that. How is that not crystal clear? I felt coming into the day phase those were important things, but I guess since people are constantly telling me that I am doing stuff completely different from what I'm actually doing, I must be wrong and or scum. I mean, if you look at my posts I have: defended NS, condemned NS, insulted everyone's mothers, condemned everyone voting for espionage, chainsaw defended myself, got indignified by the hammer vote, and a bunch of other things. (For those playing at home, I have done NONE of those things). But please, I would love for another player to tell me what my posts are about, because I obviously don't know what I mean.

Tbone, I'm pretty sure everyone is talking about the ika hammer, not the espe hammer.

At least I think I'm sifting through all this bile correctly.

That was in regards to Ffery who I thought was implying I was indignified about the NS hammer. My 'indignation' over my hammer comes from Titus' lunacy regarding it, as what he said happened and what actually happened are two completely different things. It's like the difference between a ruby and a pearl.

↑ T-Bone wrote:That was in regards to Ffery who I thought was implying I was indignified about the NS hammer. My 'indignation' over my hammer comes from Titus' lunacy regarding it, as what he said happened and what actually happened are two completely different things. It's like the difference between a ruby and a pearl.

I was in a hurry.

I meant indignation about the wagon/lynch. I've seen less histrionics over 1st and goal pass interceptions in the last 10 seconds of of the 4th quarter.

Well, TMZ is running a sting on the Michael Jackson estate, but hey, let's talk about this.

Here are my problems and issues:

1) My bridesmaid (the one who didn't vanish yesterday) has run off to Venezuela with one of the caterers' busboys;

2) I'm having a bad hair day, and the hairdresser guaranteed that after spending on a wedding-day hairstyle that it would last until after the ceremony;

3) AP seems far too abrasive to be town (I seem to recall his towngame to be intense yet non-abrasive);

4) Titus seems too-town-to-be-town, so must be scum;

5) ffery is (pretty sure) town so I may sheep her later (perhaps);

6) post restrictions make for an game.

VOTE: AngryPidgeon

↑ T-Bone wrote:Well, TMZ is running a sting on the Michael Jackson estate, but hey, let's talk about this.

Your tone is what it is.

I've got some meta to review.

I'm self hammering if I get to L - 1. Heads up.

No take backs.

This game makes my stomach sick.

Annoyed? Irritated? Frustrated? Yes, yes it is. All that glitters in gold...only shooting stars break the mol-old #SmashMouth (so cool)

NS... Titus is too town to be scum. I am gunna sheep Titus....

I wish I could force the lynch between NS TBone and AP.

↑ Titus wrote:NS... Titus is too town to be scum. I am gunna sheep Titus....

I wish I could force the lynch between NS TBone and AP.

Man the 3 leading votes/suspects are the people you wish you could lynch. How will you ever manage to succeed?

the day you correctly read me is the day ffery's liver finally gives out from all that beer.

One thing that stands out for me much like a gravy stain on an otherwise spotless white tuxedo is this:

Bookitty's Disgustingly Unofficial VoteCount

:

Nobody Special (3): Bookitty, Titus, Brantz

11 alive, 6 to lynch

T-Bone criticises those on the Nobody Special wagon and says essentially:

I guess we were all guilty, in a way. We all shot him, we all skinned him, and we all got a complimentary bumper sticker that said, "I helped skin Bob."

AngryPidgeon votes Titus. T-Bone votes Titus.

Bookitty's Disgustingly Unofficial VoteCount 2, now with more Titus:

Nobody Special (3): Bookitty, Titus, Brantz
Titus (2): AngryPidgeon, T-Bone

11 alive, 6 to lynch

Muffin votes T-Bone. I vote T-Bone.

Bookitty's Disgustingly Unofficial VoteCount 3, T-Bone steak stains on the tablecloth:

Nobody Special (2): Titus, Brantz
Titus (2): AngryPidgeon, T-Bone
T-Bone (2): Muffin, Bookitty

11 alive, 6 to lynch

Nacho votes me. Titus votes T-Bone.

Bookitty's Disgustingly Unofficial VoteCount 4, Kitty on the Menu:

Nobody Special (1): Brantz
Titus (2): AngryPidgeon, T-Bone
T-Bone (3): Muffin, Bookitty, Titus
Bookitty (1): Nachomamma

11 alive, 6 to lynch

I vote for AngryPidgeon. Titus doesn't want to, even though she was pushing that over Espeonage previously. She really doesn't want to, even after I tell her that I'm sticking there and Nobody Special's vote makes it more viable.

Bookitty's Disgustingly Unofficial VoteCount 5, Where is Titus?:

Nobody Special (1): Brantz
Titus (2): AngryPidgeon, T-Bone
T-Bone (2): Muffin, Titus
Bookitty (1): Nachomamma
AngryPidgeon (2): Bookitty, Nobody Special

11 alive, 6 to lynch

Now, I don't like being sheeped. I'm wrong often enough that I get antsy about making a mistake. That said, Titus sheeped me on NS, she sheeped me on T-Bone, and then on one of her PRIME suspects, AngryPidgeon, she said, "Ein minuten, bitte!" Since my vote on Nobody Special was intended to elicit certain reactions (I don't have him as scum; I've meta'd him and I've played with him -- to me, this is his townplay) I'm especially angsty about my push on T-Bone now.

It's like in an action film where three helpless victims are tied to chairs and being threatened with a giant pot of tomato ketchup. The hero resists valiantly and says nothing while one victim is viciously attacked and his clothes smeared. Another victim is drenched in the vile stuff. But when the hero's daughter/wife/husband/significant other is threatened, he speaks up and kicks into redirect mode.

I don't like it. I think it's weird. I want others to look at this and tell me if this ketchup stain looks like a scum silhouette or if it's just Rorschach messing with my head.