Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:31 am
↑ Metal Sonic wrote:What do you think of GreyICE?
Well he is leaning town. also GIF says he is prob town.
But he still doesnt feel that great. anything other than grey btw?
↑ Metal Sonic wrote:What do you think of GreyICE?
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:↑ Metal Sonic wrote:Having wgeurts in the town block instead of zar is pretty contrarian! I would really appreciate it if you could give the distinction: why wgeurts? Why not zar? Why wgeurts over zar?
3 questions with detailed answers please!
Why not Zar? Zar hasn't done anything vaguely townish. He's made a weak push on me, then disappeared.
Meanwhile, Empire made a couple good posts but his main push was on town (you). It's also been proven in ASOIAF that scum-Empire can make a couple good posts and it's making consistent town posts that separates town game from scum game.
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:Wgeurts has had fantastic aggression this entire game, comes across as incredibly genuine in points like #438, #478, and has an impressive body of work in a game with a strong playerlist when he doesn't actually have any sort of scum game at all.
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:Sotty/Kagami have teamed up at a couple of points against Grey, whereas I'm not really seeing anyone who has backed up Grey in the way that I would expect from a scum partner.
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:So, if Hoopla is scum, those two alternatives seem like pretty strong partner suggestions AND their flips will be more informative than Hoopla's AND I think there are stronger reasons to call those two scum whereas reasons to call Hoopla scum are pretty much just "useless, lurking".
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=60046
Here it is! I understand glancing through another game is -work- and not necessarily something you have a whole lot of time for, but I think it will help you understand where I'm coming from with my read on him, especially if you don't have experience with him before this game.
↑ EddieFenix wrote:MS, please get your ass on the GI wagon.
↑ Kagami wrote:
Scum
GreyICE (TBD)
Hoopla (Confectionery Animals)
Zar Empire (The Westeros Circlejerk)
wgeurts (Young and Beautiful)
Metal Sonic (team nocaps)
Nachomamma8 (Gestalt)
ZZZX (TEAM WITH NO NAME)
EddieFenix (The Leftovers)
Seraphim (The Unviggable Vegetables)
Sotty7 (The Kliq)
Albert B. Rampage (Blue, Meth, Blade and Associates)
Town
↑ Metal Sonic wrote:Your second post was a bit less shit, because you provided your reads, so that we can see where you stand on the players in the game. Unfortunately, it is still shit, because firstly, there was no trajectory on any of your reads, which means that it came out of nowhere. Secondly, there is a lack of accountability, as there was no previous indication on how you were arriving at your reads, we are unable to see your thought processes behind the reads. Thirdly, it is shit, because your reasoning is scarce, less than 9 words for each read, we are unable to gain any new insights from your post. Finally, it is shit, because anybody could come up with that readslist by making a "Town", "Null", and "Scum" section, and randomly fill in the appropriate categories with the names in the playerlist -- it is falsifiable.
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:During these five days of game time, he has made four posts. 5 days is more than enough time to get your bearing in the game and make an impression, but Zar hasn't... Why?
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:How long will you give him a free pass based on Empire's play which, unfortunately, wasn't that fantastic?
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:Empire's ISO has been regarded by many as "very town". Who are these people?
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:The people who can read Empire best and are in this game (Tammy, Llamarble, Mina, Regfan, me) are either on his team, not involved with this game, or are on my team. My team is not reading him as town. This is something important to remember if my slot ever flips.
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:Why didn't he interact with me more before he left?
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:Why didn't he post a big leaving post before he went? Why didn't he say anything?
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:Grey bussing Kagami/Sotty/Hoopla is possible.
↑ Zar wrote:I'm doing over a detailed read of the thread to catch up. Currently up to page 20. Bear with me, I will be fully caught up by tomorrow and have some team insight as well then. The reads wil be updated accordingly should there be any changes.
This is what I have so far:
READS
TOWN
ABR
Metal Sonic
GreyICE
wgeurts
ZZZX
Nachomamma
Hoopla
Kagami/Silver
Eddie
Seraphim
Sotty
SCUM
Spoiler: Reads
↑ Metal Sonic wrote:i'm "meh" on kagami. some of her points against GreyICE are valid but some of her posts are bad beyond bad. no way i can put her in a town block. meh.