Newbie 1867 - Game Over

[TheRampage]

Serious question @Rampage: why

must

I be scum? Even if you don't think the probability is high, why do you feel that you must ignore the possibiities where I am town?

I had actually thought about commenting on that possibility, but some one had already brought it up several posts back. They said if you and I are both town, they are laughing their asses off right now. Here is what happens if you flip town. One more town will be killed tonight unless there is a doctor and they guess right on the save. Then I will get lynched, which will put the town down to 4 v 2, then we get another town kill at night, making it 3 v 2, meaning that another mislynch ends the game. So yes, if we are both town, then we are pretty much fucked; but no matter what, if I get lynched or you get lynched, if we are both town, this is the path it will be on. I just have to move forward and hope that my read is right, just like you have to hope that yours is right. Cause yes, if you are not scum, then we are fucked. The only saving grace would be if their is a cop and they investigate the survivor tonight. If the survivor pops not guilty, then we could possibly look elsewhere and get to 5-1 at the end of day 2, cause that is the best case scenario. Still, I have no clue what town roles are in this game outside of mine, meaning I have no clue whether there will be a save or an investigation or a jailing; so I am looking at the best case, and that is that you are scum. Because if you aren't, we are fucked.

[Scioness Sajj]

this feels awful honestly

i'm going to watch a movie, will be back in an hour and we probably should make a decision.

[Ircher]

Serious question @Rampage: why

must

I be scum? Even if you don't think the probability is high, why do you feel that you must ignore the possibiities where I am town?

I had actually thought about commenting on that possibility, but some one had already brought it up several posts back. They said if you and I are both town, they are laughing their asses off right now. Here is what happens if you flip town. One more town will be killed tonight unless there is a doctor and they guess right on the save. Then I will get lynched, which will put the town down to 4 v 2, then we get another town kill at night, making it 3 v 2, meaning that another mislynch ends the game. So yes, if we are both town, then we are pretty much fucked; but no matter what, if I get lynched or you get lynched, if we are both town, this is the path it will be on. I just have to move forward and hope that my read is right, just like you have to hope that yours is right. Cause yes, if you are not scum, then we are fucked. The only saving grace would be if their is a cop and they investigate the survivor tonight. If the survivor pops not guilty, then we could possibly look elsewhere and get to 5-1 at the end of day 2, cause that is the best case scenario. Still, I have no clue what town roles are in this game outside of mine, meaning I have no clue whether there will be a save or an investigation or a jailing; so I am looking at the best case, and that is that you are scum. Because if you aren't, we are fucked.

Town can reevaluate; if we are both town, town isn't screwed because of aforementioned reevaluation.

[Huntress]

Vote Count 1.19

Ircher (4) - teacher, vulcan logician, TheRampage, Draynth
TheRampage (3) - Ircher, Scioness Sajj, northsidegal
northsidegal (1) - Nachomamma8
teacher (1) - nancy

Not voting (0) -


With nine players alive, it takes five votes to lynch.

New deadline for Day One is Monday, 21st May, 11pm BST

, (in (expired on 2018-05-21 23:00:00)).

[Ircher]

i could jump on draynth wagon btw


but i guess i intent to hammer ircher anyways

You guess?

[TheRampage]

@Ircher here is my question for you. While yes, town can reevaluate me or you if we mislynch, I want to know why you feel so strongly about being the one who stays in the game. If you were a town power role, you would have made sure to stay in the background, making solid arguments for your votes, but not leading as you would try to avoid being seen as a leader by the scummers. Only 2 types of roles fight to stay, power and scum. I was willing to sacrifice myself for the better of the town and getting ready. Why aren't you willing to do the same? Why not give your final reads if you are town and give us more places to look when we get to day 2? It is leaning towards you getting lynched right now, so give us your reads in the event that you flip green

[Ircher]

Simple: I think you are very likely scum, and I have laid out why.

But fine, some reads:
Nacho - Pretty much town albeit I am worried I am being too lazy in evaluating this slot.
Draynth - Somewhat town; there's been some good things he has done, some bad.
TheRampage - Scum; I've explained why so many times
Scion - Somewhat town; the predecessor (Etromin) wasn't that good but Sajj has been registering more as town lately
Teacher - Leaning scum; I explained why (and this considers Ofrhz as well)
Nancy - Leaning town; I liked Harambey for the most part (though he had a lot of bad posts as he did good posts) and nancy has been pretty good as well
North - Mixed; Alciel had like 1 good and 1 bad post and meh in terms of North.
Vulcan - Likely town; while I definitely don't agree with a lot of his opinions, I think he is being genuine in his posting and haven't found him really be unreasonable; his posts read as town.

[Scioness Sajj]

Rampage, I think you run on a lot of assumptions that are generally not true.

Ircher - I don't really want to hammer you but I'm here and I will be here until the deadline so I will do it if that's what we need.

[Ircher]

I'm waiting for Nacho to get back here before doing anything....

[Ircher]

I have until 5:30 PM.

[Draynth]

We have an hour and a half left fyi

[Scioness Sajj]

we do, indeed

[Scioness Sajj]

I have until 5:30 PM.

when's that?

[TheRampage]

Rampage, I think you run on a lot of assumptions that are generally not true.

Ircher - I don't really want to hammer you but I'm here and I will be here until the deadline so I will do it if that's what we need.

As town on Day 1, assumptions and gut feelings is all we have. To me, Mafia is a poker game. I only know my cards. Mafia has the advantage cause they know one of our whole cards. They know who is town. All I can do is read everyone at the table, maybe put out some feelers and get a read. My main thing against Ircher is that he is way too defensive. You saw how I was when we were both ar L-2. I put myself at L-1 and was willing to be lynched to better the towns reads. My whole goal is to help the town wed out the scum. Still, I am willing to wait. My reads are as follows

TOWN - Vulcan, Draynth, Possibly Nacho and Nancy

SCUM LEANS - Teacher, Scioness, North could be wrong about these cause they are based on how they are voting and when they voted.

SCUM - Ircher

There, no matter what happens or who gets lynched, you know our final thoughts

[Scioness Sajj]

yeah your readlist is basically who votes you and who doesn't lol

[Scioness Sajj]

that's what makes me think you are scum with some direction from a mate tbf

you have those well composed posts but they are pretty empty

[Scioness Sajj]

like i have this feeling your reads cover with majority's opinion if you have any

you didn't put any effort in to get info out of people

hope im wrong

[Scioness Sajj]

i do feel like you are faking it

idk maybe wishful thinking but

[Scioness Sajj]

intent to hammer

[Scioness Sajj]

where are all the people that were supposed to be here?

[Ircher]

I have until 5:30 PM.

when's that?

(expired on 2018-05-21 17:30:00)

[Scioness Sajj]

should have said im busy as just lurk it out lmao

p.edit do you have any claims to make or nah? does it even matter now?

[Ircher]

As town on Day 1, assumptions and gut feelings is all we have. To me, Mafia is a poker game. I only know my cards. Mafia has the advantage cause they know one of our whole cards. They know who is town. All I can do is read everyone at the table, maybe put out some feelers and get a read. My main thing against Ircher is that he is way too defensive. You saw how I was when we were both ar L-2. I put myself at L-1 and was willing to be lynched to better the towns reads. My whole goal is to help the town wed out the scum. Still, I am willing to wait. My reads are as follows

Defensiveness really isn't a scumtell; town should actually put an effort into staying alive versus giving up. Scum moreso, but that doesn't mean town should just quit.

Pedit: I claim...........

[Scioness Sajj]

dude

[Ircher]

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