I be scum? Even if you don't think the probability is high, why do you feel that you must ignore the possibiities where I am town?
I had actually thought about commenting on that possibility, but some one had already brought it up several posts back. They said if you and I are both town, they are laughing their asses off right now. Here is what happens if you flip town. One more town will be killed tonight unless there is a doctor and they guess right on the save. Then I will get lynched, which will put the town down to 4 v 2, then we get another town kill at night, making it 3 v 2, meaning that another mislynch ends the game. So yes, if we are both town, then we are pretty much fucked; but no matter what, if I get lynched or you get lynched, if we are both town, this is the path it will be on. I just have to move forward and hope that my read is right, just like you have to hope that yours is right. Cause yes, if you are not scum, then we are fucked. The only saving grace would be if their is a cop and they investigate the survivor tonight. If the survivor pops not guilty, then we could possibly look elsewhere and get to 5-1 at the end of day 2, cause that is the best case scenario. Still, I have no clue what town roles are in this game outside of mine, meaning I have no clue whether there will be a save or an investigation or a jailing; so I am looking at the best case, and that is that you are scum. Because if you aren't, we are fucked.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:16 am
by Scioness Sajj
this feels awful honestly
i'm going to watch a movie, will be back in an hour and we probably should make a decision.
I be scum? Even if you don't think the probability is high, why do you feel that you must ignore the possibiities where I am town?
I had actually thought about commenting on that possibility, but some one had already brought it up several posts back. They said if you and I are both town, they are laughing their asses off right now. Here is what happens if you flip town. One more town will be killed tonight unless there is a doctor and they guess right on the save. Then I will get lynched, which will put the town down to 4 v 2, then we get another town kill at night, making it 3 v 2, meaning that another mislynch ends the game. So yes, if we are both town, then we are pretty much fucked; but no matter what, if I get lynched or you get lynched, if we are both town, this is the path it will be on. I just have to move forward and hope that my read is right, just like you have to hope that yours is right. Cause yes, if you are not scum, then we are fucked. The only saving grace would be if their is a cop and they investigate the survivor tonight. If the survivor pops not guilty, then we could possibly look elsewhere and get to 5-1 at the end of day 2, cause that is the best case scenario. Still, I have no clue what town roles are in this game outside of mine, meaning I have no clue whether there will be a save or an investigation or a jailing; so I am looking at the best case, and that is that you are scum. Because if you aren't, we are fucked.
Town can reevaluate; if we are both town, town isn't screwed because of aforementioned reevaluation.
@Ircher here is my question for you. While yes, town can reevaluate me or you if we mislynch, I want to know why you feel so strongly about being the one who stays in the game. If you were a town power role, you would have made sure to stay in the background, making solid arguments for your votes, but not leading as you would try to avoid being seen as a leader by the scummers. Only 2 types of roles fight to stay, power and scum. I was willing to sacrifice myself for the better of the town and getting ready. Why aren't you willing to do the same? Why not give your final reads if you are town and give us more places to look when we get to day 2? It is leaning towards you getting lynched right now, so give us your reads in the event that you flip green
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:32 am
by Ircher
Simple: I think you are very likely scum, and I have laid out why.
But fine, some reads:
Nacho - Pretty much town albeit I am worried I am being too lazy in evaluating this slot.
Draynth - Somewhat town; there's been some good things he has done, some bad.
TheRampage - Scum; I've explained why so many times
Scion - Somewhat town; the predecessor (Etromin) wasn't that good but Sajj has been registering more as town lately
Teacher - Leaning scum; I explained why (and this considers Ofrhz as well)
Nancy - Leaning town; I liked Harambey for the most part (though he had a lot of bad posts as he did good posts) and nancy has been pretty good as well
North - Mixed; Alciel had like 1 good and 1 bad post and meh in terms of North.
Vulcan - Likely town; while I definitely don't agree with a lot of his opinions, I think he is being genuine in his posting and haven't found him really be unreasonable; his posts read as town.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:34 am
by Scioness Sajj
Rampage, I think you run on a lot of assumptions that are generally not true.
Ircher - I don't really want to hammer you but I'm here and I will be here until the deadline so I will do it if that's what we need.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:45 am
by Ircher
I'm waiting for Nacho to get back here before doing anything....
In post 732, Scioness Sajj wrote:Rampage, I think you run on a lot of assumptions that are generally not true.
Ircher - I don't really want to hammer you but I'm here and I will be here until the deadline so I will do it if that's what we need.
As town on Day 1, assumptions and gut feelings is all we have. To me, Mafia is a poker game. I only know my cards. Mafia has the advantage cause they know one of our whole cards. They know who is town. All I can do is read everyone at the table, maybe put out some feelers and get a read. My main thing against Ircher is that he is way too defensive. You saw how I was when we were both ar L-2. I put myself at L-1 and was willing to be lynched to better the towns reads. My whole goal is to help the town wed out the scum. Still, I am willing to wait. My reads are as follows
TOWN - Vulcan, Draynth, Possibly Nacho and Nancy
SCUM LEANS - Teacher, Scioness, North could be wrong about these cause they are based on how they are voting and when they voted.
SCUM - Ircher
There, no matter what happens or who gets lynched, you know our final thoughts
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:39 am
by Scioness Sajj
yeah your readlist is basically who votes you and who doesn't lol
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:41 am
by Scioness Sajj
that's what makes me think you are scum with some direction from a mate tbf
you have those well composed posts but they are pretty empty
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:42 am
by Scioness Sajj
like i have this feeling your reads cover with majority's opinion if you have any
you didn't put any effort in to get info out of people
hope im wrong
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:43 am
by Scioness Sajj
i do feel like you are faking it
idk maybe wishful thinking but
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:45 am
by Scioness Sajj
intent to hammer
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:47 am
by Scioness Sajj
where are all the people that were supposed to be here?
p.edit do you have any claims to make or nah? does it even matter now?
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:51 am
by Ircher
In post 738, TheRampage wrote:As town on Day 1, assumptions and gut feelings is all we have. To me, Mafia is a poker game. I only know my cards. Mafia has the advantage cause they know one of our whole cards. They know who is town. All I can do is read everyone at the table, maybe put out some feelers and get a read. My main thing against Ircher is that he is way too defensive. You saw how I was when we were both ar L-2. I put myself at L-1 and was willing to be lynched to better the towns reads. My whole goal is to help the town wed out the scum. Still, I am willing to wait. My reads are as follows
Defensiveness really isn't a scumtell; town should actually put an effort into staying alive versus giving up. Scum moreso, but that doesn't mean town should just quit.