Micro 827: The Team Odds - Game Over

[BNL]

VC 1.19

Dunnstral (3): Eragon, Wh4t, Performer
Performer (2): Dunnstral, schadd_
Eragon (2): northsidegal, RadiantCowbells
Skygazer (1): Skygazer

Not Voting (1) - Carcalilly

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[RadiantCowbells]

I take nsg opposing the wagon very seriously and it doesn't make me want to not Lynch performer.

VOTE: performer

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm even gonna like make a case

[Carcalilly]

I'm even gonna like make a case

cases are scummy

[RadiantCowbells]

fuck off chamber

[RadiantCowbells]

So, as like an aside that comes before everything else, Dunnstral's play pisses me off but I'm not really sure if it's more likely to be scum.
Carcalilly I'm outright leaning town on right now.

Skygazer can drop to lowest category simply based on the fact that, like, she has done absolutely nothing for a massive amount of time and that probably makes her scum.

[Performer]

The thing is , rc, that people can do annoying things to us all the time. In his case, I find him scummy.
Carca definitely doesn't look like her scum game with mulch (he said he won 5+ scum games in a row wth) and a mafia traitor, in this game.

Rc if I end up as lynch, we both might die in the same phase. Me d1 you n1.
I also have moved eragon off null based on yesterday's interaction.

nsg can you provide more to us please....for instance why you tr me.

[RadiantCowbells]

i've won well over 5 scum games in a row many times o.O

[RadiantCowbells]

This post is so bizarre.

Why the word choice of "buddying" and mentioning rc voted you. I get a bad feeling that you might be scum instead with a teammate. Of all the things carca that you could say, "interacted/talked to/etc" with me, why are you saying that? That just looks really disturbing.
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I'm not sure if carc's interactions with me are genuine town because of that 1 newbie game ages ago, or...faked from a mafia role...sigh...
this is absolutely going to haunt me.

"I love that rc voted me"
"oh because I am buddying performer?"

Wth

So I'm not entirely sure whether these point to SvS or SvT but I think these are extremely indicative of Scum!Performer
I feel like Town!Performer would scumread it and vote it whereas he's kind of weirdly waffling where he shouldn't and he's like making a show of being uncertain of it?

VOTE: carcalilly
Your thought process here varied from our first game onsite . It sounds like scum agenda (because "I am buddying performer?" and scum coasting with your random posting. I don't believe you're town here.

Even this really doesn't sound like a town thought process, and the way he says 'I dont believe you're town here' vibes really scum to me, like he feels the need to say it?

Hold on, you mentioned 3 people and I had the 2nd highest % to be scum . None of those 3 were me or the bottom 2 iirc.
Plus we've played 22 games together where I've never seen you come out of the gate voting someone like this.

Only reason I haven't put you on L-1 is that I'm not sure if we have any quick hammer types in here, I've never played a game without any prs like this , and so...that dual combination scares me on pg 2. If we had prs, I'd feel much safer with a safety net but damn. I've also seen your town game in case you are actually town so putting you at L-1 in case someone quick hammers, is too risky so early.

I want to see what more people say.

Like I've seen Performer as town be overexplainy too and it's gotten him in hot water before but this is over the line even for him.

It's just that...it's not just 1 but 2 people
who have special experience (1 modded my scum game, the other played together for so long & knows I'm the type not to change my meta much if at all)

and yet they sr me yet I am town, in this gamestate with dunnstral and someone who self voted a bunch, still doesn't have reads, and is somehow not a lead wagon (skygazer).

It's just irritating and unbelievable in this situation.

This feels like scum too, like caught for the wrong reasons, like he's saying these people are scummier than he is rather than saying that he's town kinda?

why am i sring you more than dunnie

All I saw in your reads list was you needed to meta my scum game despite thinking I'm possibly town, voted me later, and nothing else.

as for rc, he's talking about how this is different than my town game..without saying anything else, as usual of him.
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you guys both see how this is not helping anything and feeds into confirmation bias?

Again just like he's kind of half treating us like we're town and half talking about whether we're scum and it's really bad.

So I feel fairly convinced of Performer scum.

My current pick for their partner I'll go into in my next post.

[RadiantCowbells]

I refuse on principle to try and bring quotes-in-quotes out of Eragon's walls, it's way too much effort. Find yourself if you need them.

hmm I like this as starting off the game trying to put info out there and get the game rolling

1) Eragon is the only person in the observable universe who townread Performer's opening post.

uhh, its the logical thing.
"you didnt mention me"
when "I'm"(performer) has one of the best chances of flipping scum, so ignoring that is weird.

And so what if its an info dump no one asked for?
did anyone ask you to post?
if yes, then your scum because no one said in this thread
If no, then your being hypocritical.
your choice

This response to dunnstral feels really excessive (which is why at one point I thought they may be buddies) and, dare I say, chainsawy?

In post 27, schadd_ wrote:
VOTE: dunnie :/

uhh defense OMGUS??
idk what to make of this b/c I think Scum buddies would be more careful about their defense, but the timing would be odd for town!schadd voting.

So this is a huge deal.
It wasn't an OMGUS, Dunn was voting Performer and Schadd voted Dunn.
So what Eragon is -actually- saying, is that Schadd is chainsaw defending Performer... but at this time, Eragon is townreading Performer.
Why does town!Eragon who is townreading Performer feel the need to read this much into Schadd's vote unless he knows that Performer is scum and that this might look bad for schadd later?

dunn's post
"im town, look at __, __, __"
"performer scum"
/vote performer
"Schad scummy"

???

again just a really ick way of discrediting dunn

I think this TR came too easily, but I dont think its wrong so-to-speak

Questions performer without actually questioning them

And like I'm bored I don't really want ot respond to everything Eragon's said when we're already in this commanding of a position

I officially think Carcalilly is town
RC is town
Wh4t is town
NSG is town
Schadd is town

that's enough and we can still lynch Skygazer before endgame for being a lurksack

Performer->Eragon->Skygazer->Dunnstral wins the game, I don't want to keep going into more detail

I do think it's performeragon right now though, also largely because of their interactions on the last like couple pages? being super forced but I DONT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT

CUZ THE GAME IS SOLVED YOU CLOWNFUCKS

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah I didn't really want to effort

Can we just powerlynch performer and go from there

[Performer]

@rc dude 84 & 97 were still early in the day, I was sorting if I needed to vote dunn or carca at that point.
The line about me being "overexplainy" .... I can't even begin with this one.

As for 673, "half treating you like town and half like scum" - what in the ? I was trying to get you guys to contribute more about what on Earth you guys were sring , in the process of continued sorting. It's D A Y O N E, there's sorting to be done on d1...you know this. Also, sentences like "oh meta" or "oh I sr x more than y" or " you thought I was keeping up but surprise I never said I was keeping up" - just saying bare bone sentences like that , how does that help future folks in future phrases or my read of a slot that's saying that ? It DOESN'T & it's scummy.

Basically the wagon on me is this: dunn - self explanatory, you - gut, shad - sheeping you yet he is likely town. But to go further by casing me with those posts...that's just too paranoid

[Carcalilly]

I’d rather do dunnstral before any of them

And performer, RC has a point. :/

[Carcalilly]

I might even Sheep him if you don’t give me a reason not to

[Dunnstral]

Why me wtf

The way you were pushing me looked like you trying to replicate your game as town, but you have a history of reading me wrong and didn't really have anything to go off of there

I do think it is unlikely that you are scum with performer when I reconsider it. I'm ok with lynching Performer, then Carca, maybe eragon

[schadd_]

All the wannabe meta types are severely misguided or scum

hi you're throwing if you're town

there are obvious differences between this and your towngame and if you are going to neither acknowledge that nor make effort to change it there is no way for ppl to know

look at 606 and 609 with that in mind please

[Dunnstral]

I've definitely lurked as town before, selectively looking through games where I played different isn't building a case against me

[schadd_]

you are capable of not lurking as town :^)

[Carcalilly]

it’s not really because you’re lurking

[schadd_]

and that isn't exactly the substance of why i think you're scum

pedit yeah

[RadiantCowbells]

i want you to not lurk though

so i can read you and interact with you

[RadiantCowbells]

our administration has accomplished more than any other administration in the history of our country

[Carcalilly]

rc how are you feeling

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm feeling cute af

[Dunnstral]

and that isn't exactly the substance of why i think you're scum

pedit yeah

But it is