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In post 718, DVa wrote:

In post 709, MariaR wrote:Why does it bother you so much? Everyone was saying firebringer was trolling. Is it that hard to believe that I thought fire really forgot how many scum are in the set up?

yeah but trolling implies he knows the count and is acting dumb to provoke a reaction, it's very different from thinking he *actually* doesn't know the scum count in an open game

I know he tends to be way more focused on his personal relationships with people in games than on the actual scumminess of people but that seems pretty disengaged even for him

I don't know him saying he really did forget makes him scum but it certainly doesn't make him town

pedit: guess people are online right now

He could fake it you're 100% right I wouldn't base just my townread on that one little thing because any dumbtell can be faked. I don't think he did though. I find fires posting fine besides that whole ordeal. What I don't understand is how it is so impossible for you to understand my pov that you're scumreading me hard for it

In post 723, RadiantCowbells wrote:they're not inherently scummier than kokichi.

For real you town read Gamma Short and Karmeleon more than Kokichi!?

am I going to have to fight you on Gamma scum?

In post 709, MariaR wrote:

In post 706, DVa wrote:I guess you believe that Maria really thought Fire was dumbtelling with the 4 scum thing?

That post really bothered me ngl

Why does it bother you so much? Everyone was saying firebringer was trolling. Is it that hard to believe that I thought fire really forgot how many scum are in the set up?

After playing the setup 4 times in the past with 3 Mafia in all 4 dances?

Nahhhhh

i'm not actually particularly sure that karmeleon is town as much as i think i can get to that point if the game continues
(i would take it as a scumclaim if karmeleon accepted the poorly considered invite now)

gamma/short/dunn i have damn good reasons to tr

kokichi's just meh

keep in mind

3 100% towns
everyone left only has 21% odds of being scum

we can win this from there most of the time just by randomly selecting people and calling them town

this isn't about winning most of the time this is about winning this 100% of the time from here, that's what i'm looking for and i will accept nothing less.

like maria says dumb stuff like that it's nai

Oh yeah gamma too is actually more of a "there are a shit load of people in this game who can read him and maybe he'll get locktowned by all of them and be cleared"

but short/dunn good stuffs.

I myself had a moment where I forgot how many scum were in the setup. I corrected myself 10 seconds later but I did. I don't think it's so impossible as people say. We're not perfect human beings who have everything edged into our brains. Forgetting stuff like that isn't shocking.

In post 725, MariaR wrote:What I don't understand is how it is so impossible for you to understand my pov that you're scumreading me hard for it

you're highly capable and when you were town in Boundaries of Reality I felt like I really was in a groove with your posts (even though it's like we weren't even town in that game together since I died n1 and you only started posting on d2, but I did read that game closely).

I just really felt out of groove with you on Fire here and that has me very worried because a player as capable as you won't make a lot of slips

that being said I'd still lynch Gamma over you

pedit: I feel like I'm having a Cakez moment here with these preview posts

In post 731, RadiantCowbells wrote:Oh yeah gamma too is actually more of a "there are a shit load of people in this game who can read him and maybe he'll get locktowned by all of them and be cleared"

but short/dunn good stuffs.

So to be clear, and I can't believe I'm considering this because I really _Really_ think Short is scum, but

You'd be happier with

LLD/Dunn
DVA/Short
Maria/Cakez

and then doing a bunch of pair downs from there?

Still advocate a Mala leave out.

Now that you guys are talking about Fire, i have a concern, what if he doesnt come back on time to accept a dance? or will he at least be reading enough to accept?

In post 730, RadiantCowbells wrote:like maria says dumb stuff like that it's nai

Why are you being a dick for the sake of being a dick rn. It's not needed at all stop.

In post 735, Sakura Hana wrote:Now that you guys are talking about Fire, i have a concern, what if he doesnt come back on time to accept a dance? or will he at least be reading enough to accept?

he's a lady this game, so it's not accepting he needs to offer. If he doesn't offer in time, 2 ladies and 1 Gent will die pre-dance.

... no wait that's a lie, the other two could pair.

So just he would die?

I keep forgetting that detail, dont mind me.

if i had to right now pick a partner it's short, i have really good feels about so much

I myself had a moment where I forgot how many scum were in the setup. I corrected myself 10 seconds later but I did. I don't think it's so impossible as people say. We're not perfect human beings who have everything edged into our brains. Forgetting stuff like that isn't shocking.

i forgot there was no daytalk in the recently finished diffusion of power, ask gamma about it
i meant to say firebringer says dumb stuff ftr

RC/Sakura
DVA/Short

is super pleasing to me, yes

the rest i'm still like really uncertain about

Why are you being a dick for the sake of being a dick rn. It's not needed at all stop.

pls

reading lynchbait is one of my strongest claims to fame as a player ftr, short is ticking a shitload of town boxes

ok, then I'm just gonna do

In post 733, DVa wrote:

In post 725, MariaR wrote:What I don't understand is how it is so impossible for you to understand my pov that you're scumreading me hard for it

you're highly capable and when you were town in Boundaries of Reality I felt like I really was in a groove with your posts (even though it's like we weren't even town in that game together since I died n1 and you only started posting on d2, but I did read that game closely).

I just really felt out of groove with you on Fire here and that has me very worried because a player as capable as you won't make a lot of slips

that being said I'd still lynch Gamma over you

pedit: I feel like I'm having a Cakez moment here with these preview posts

Having disagreements/talks with other people is good and fine. Hell I would rather we not have the same reads (or at least the same reasons) to tr people because that's 2 dif viewpoints that can get talked about. Yes we're not grooving as you say but I don't think that's really scummy. I think looking at the reasons and seeing if you believe said reasons is more important then the read itself. I do understand that what fire said can be fake but that's not the only reason I want him to advice to the next stage of the dance. Gamma I have a really really good read rate on. He made 1 good post the rest of his iso is meh. I understand your want to lynch him but I would wait a bit more

In post 729, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'm not actually particularly sure that karmeleon is town as much as i think i can get to that point if the game continues
(i would take it as a scumclaim if karmeleon accepted the poorly considered invite now)

tbh I proposed partly to see if he would accept when you had said not to do early pairings

I did think that if he had accepted he would have been locktown to me for being willing to stand up to you as IC

I still think he's probably town but I'm slightly less sure than I was on page 2 lol

DVA, you should offer a dance to short

hey dva what are your thoughts on short

do you understand why i'm hard town on him

Well, if it'll put anyone's mind at ease, I'll make the following declaration:

As a newb, I know my reads suck. I will not value my own opinions over the decided course of action because you folks have been doing this thing a lot longer and we have the benefit of confirmed town organizing the game plan.

In post 746, RadiantCowbells wrote:hey dva what are your thoughts on short

do you understand why i'm hard town on him

I was gonna ask if this matters but I guess there's that whole like "what if they get real paranoid and kill each other" problem we should address

i rly like brian skies