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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:31 pm
by the worst
In post 724, skitter30 wrote:why is he objectively wrong on you?
he thinks I'm scum

read this in context of my objection pls

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:31 pm
by skitter30
In post 723, the worst wrote:What's your problem wrt me referring to knowing my own alignment?

I also figure you'll see where I was coming from with Punk Bill but if not lmk
idk, feels weird for you to use that to say his reads are upside down

i guess the pink ball thing is like a personality clash maybe but it feels kinda wrong. i did see that you're coming around to him but i don't like how you were treating him earlier

maybe i just on principle don't like the notion of just like shutting down people who are trying to reach out to you and that's why i don't like it idk

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:33 pm
by skitter30
In post 725, the worst wrote:
In post 724, skitter30 wrote:why is he objectively wrong on you?
he thinks I'm scum

read this in context of my objection pl
s
i'm not following what you're trying to say here tbh

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:39 pm
by sheepsaysmeep
dont make a read on her subbing out

please

im not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with that but i dont want to angleshoot like that

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:39 pm
by the worst
In retrospect I feel like we were not reaching out to each other very mutually. I feel like you're struggling with a lot of sorting/play choices I've made this game but I'm not sure what you think is coming from scum!me?

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:39 pm
by the worst
In post 728, sheepsaysmeep wrote:dont make a read on her subbing out

please

im not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with that but i dont want to angleshoot like that
HONOUR FAM

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:40 pm
by sheepsaysmeep
twtbw means too wolfy to be wolf

not used in the way like oh theyre wolfy therefore they must be villa but theyre acting in a way where if they were wolf they would be too self conscious/care too much about how they look/are read to do that

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:40 pm
by sheepsaysmeep
tw can you link me to some recent ms w games of yours

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:40 pm
by the worst
In post 727, skitter30 wrote:
In post 725, the worst wrote:
In post 724, skitter30 wrote:why is he objectively wrong on you?
he thinks I'm scum

read this in context of my objection pl
s
i'm not following what you're trying to say here tbh
We were talking about why I was finding it difficult to respond any differently to how I was responding and I'm pretty sure I chose those words when I was asking how he expected scum!me to respond

like, fmpov I'm always going to absolutely disagree with what he's saying

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:43 pm
by skitter30
In post 729, the worst wrote:In retrospect I feel like we were not reaching out to each other very mutually. I feel like you're struggling with a lot of sorting/play choices I've made this game but I'm not sure what you think is coming from scum!me?
idk

not feeling like town!you (ie all the posts that i pulled that i said felt weird)

i know that's not very helpful but that's how i read you, based on how 'not wrong' you feel

like i can't really describe or explain why i think it's scummy. i don't even know if i think it's scummy; more like it feels wrong and i associate wrong!you with you being scum (or like jungle republic)

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:44 pm
by skitter30
In post 728, sheepsaysmeep wrote:dont make a read on her subbing out

please

im not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with that but i dont want to angleshoot like that
fair enough

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:45 pm
by skitter30
In post 733, the worst wrote:
In post 727, skitter30 wrote:
In post 725, the worst wrote:
In post 724, skitter30 wrote:why is he objectively wrong on you?
he thinks I'm scum

read this in context of my objection pl
s
i'm not following what you're trying to say here tbh
We were talking about why I was finding it difficult to respond any differently to how I was responding and I'm pretty sure I chose those words when I was asking how he expected scum!me to respond

like, fmpov I'm always going to absolutely disagree with what he's saying
ah ok i think i didn't put it in the broader context correctly, sorry

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:46 pm
by skitter30
In post 734, skitter30 wrote:
In post 729, the worst wrote:In retrospect I feel like we were not reaching out to each other very mutually. I feel like you're struggling with a lot of sorting/play choices I've made this game but I'm not sure what you think is coming from scum!me?
idk

not feeling like town!you (ie all the posts that i pulled that i said felt weird)

i know that's not very helpful but that's how i read you, based on how 'not wrong' you feel

like i can't really describe or explain why i think it's scummy. i don't even know if i think it's scummy; more like it feels wrong and i associate wrong!you with you being scum (or like jungle republic)
again i know that 'feeling wrong' isn't very helpful on your end but i don't know how to explain better than that, like better than 'doesn't feel like town!you'

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:47 pm
by Nibbui
It's not only her subbing out, it's a lot of coincidences but I don't feel like talking about it, I'll give a chance for the replacement but if I ever need to case I'll explain why it seems really scum indicative for her to rep out here.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:48 pm
by northsidegal
The only thing binding me to this game (beyond a general aversion to replacing out) is a strong desire to prove you all wrong, and that isn't healthy, good for the game, and I don't think it would be particularly enjoyable for anyone.

Suffice it to say, if you think me doing this is scum-indicative, you must think very poorly of me as a person and as a mafia player. The thought that I would leave this game, the mod and my scumbuddy behind just because I rolled scum (despite the fact that I made an effort and made it to endgame in TAZ, a game with
RC
in it) is actually just very insulting.

Last post.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:52 pm
by the worst
In post 734, skitter30 wrote:
In post 729, the worst wrote:In retrospect I feel like we were not reaching out to each other very mutually. I feel like you're struggling with a lot of sorting/play choices I've made this game but I'm not sure what you think is coming from scum!me?
idk

not feeling like town!you (ie all the posts that i pulled that i said felt weird)

i know that's not very helpful but that's how i read you, based on how 'not wrong' you feel

like i can't really describe or explain why i think it's scummy. i don't even know if i think it's scummy; more like it feels wrong and i associate wrong!you with you being scum (or like jungle republic)
I'm not really sure where to go with this...? I'll have a re-read of Bill/you but I didn't really get strong town vibes from it on first impression

ftr I don't think this is a carbon copy of jjh's game, I wanted to talk to sheep but I don't think he'll go too far into it on his own initiative for now anyway so just in case: basically, I want him to check the metric he's using for reading you because you read very different to quite a lot of other analytical wallposty players.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:53 pm
by the worst
In post 739, northsidegal wrote:The only thing binding me to this game (beyond a general aversion to replacing out) is a strong desire to prove you all wrong, and that isn't healthy, good for the game, and I don't think it would be particularly enjoyable for anyone.

Suffice it to say, if you think me doing this is scum-indicative, you must think very poorly of me as a person and as a mafia player. The thought that I would leave this game, the mod and my scumbuddy behind just because I rolled scum (despite the fact that I made an effort and made it to endgame in TAZ, a game with
RC
in it) is actually just very insulting.

Last post.
I'll engage with you post-game about this. The only disappointment for me is you clearly haven't read my comments around your CONTRIBUTIONS to this game -- your replacing out is something I will be treating as NAI.

If you care to stick around I'll engage with you and sort through what was on your mind in a heartbeat because I think you're phenomenal. Regardless of alignment.

But this "I don't sub out as wolf just because I'm wolf!!!" is offensive when i've detailed what I didn't like.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:54 pm
by skitter30
do you still think i can toneread you?

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:54 pm
by Pink Ball
In post 728, sheepsaysmeep wrote:dont make a read on her subbing out

please

im not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with that but i dont want to angleshoot like that
Omg preach, you tell them sheep

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:57 pm
by the worst
In post 742, skitter30 wrote:do you still think i can toneread you?
post stack the deck not really, my tone is dead inside most of the time and I've become bolder and more candid as both alignments

you did come around in stack the deck but I think that was a more content heavy read moreso than tone

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:57 pm
by skitter30
In post 740, the worst wrote:ftr I don't think this is a carbon copy of jjh's game, I wanted to talk to sheep but I don't think he'll go too far into it on his own initiative for now anyway so just in case: basically, I want him to check the metric he's using for reading you because you read very different to quite a lot of other analytical wallposty players.
i mean i guess i'll let sheep answer this but i don't think this game looks much like that one at all
and i guess i'm a little confused why you picked gerrymandering and not your game

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:58 pm
by Pink Ball
@NSG you are a wonderful gal and your replacement will be treated fairly. Just a little sad for not being able to play with you :(

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:59 pm
by the worst
In post 745, skitter30 wrote:
In post 740, the worst wrote:ftr I don't think this is a carbon copy of jjh's game, I wanted to talk to sheep but I don't think he'll go too far into it on his own initiative for now anyway so just in case: basically, I want him to check the metric he's using for reading you because you read very different to quite a lot of other analytical wallposty players.
i mean i guess i'll let sheep answer this but i don't think this game looks much like that one at all
and i guess i'm a little confused why you picked gerrymandering and not your game
it came to mind first

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:00 pm
by the worst
does your playstyle have to look substantially similar to another game's for you to be the same alignment? I absolutely assume your wolfrange is capable of expansion

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:00 pm
by skitter30
In post 744, the worst wrote:
In post 742, skitter30 wrote:do you still think i can toneread you?
post stack the deck not really, my tone is dead inside most of the time and I've become bolder and more candid as both alignments

you did come around in stack the deck but I think that was a more content heavy read moreso than tone
yeah i kinda messed up in stack-the-deck and i'm aware of that. and i'm a little wary now and that's why i'm not like trying ot lead a lynch mob against obv!scum!tw rn

but a lot of your posts have that fake feel to them tho, especially your interaction with pink ball. or like over-the-top or like bravado-y and that all reads fake to me

and like i could be wrong but if i am idk how to get past the wrong-ness vibe i'm getting from you and that's affecting my read like a lot