In post 721, Iconeum wrote:If any of you think that you can control my gun target this night ur wrong. I'm not barricading, and i'm most likely shooting Gandalf.
If ya'll wanna strand me go ahead, i'm dying either way tonight
If you're not gonna play ball and shoot Hectic then
Intent on Iconeum.
You can stop this by:
(1) explaining why you no longer scumread Hectic (or at least scumread Hectic more); and
(2) giving me a plausible narrative for the world where neither you nor Hectic is scum.
~
This reminds me, how should we handle mason claims? I don't want to strand a mason but I also think it's probably terrible to have them out to prevent a stranding since that outs someone else for the strongman.
I'd be stunned if Iconeum is a mason so hopefully it never matters, but masons are the only people whose stranding should worry us so I'd like to figure out an answer. Hopefully they're just in the town piles so it won't matter.
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:14 pm
by Delta Klim
It's Day 1. On an ordinary Day 1 we would have time to delay a lynch of a claimed Mason for a day, but this game's mechanics (and it being a blitz game) make that more difficult.
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:20 pm
by Carl Tuckerson
Well, we should always have time to delay it I'd think, even if it meant piling up quick on somebody else
In post 721, Iconeum wrote:If any of you think that you can control my gun target this night ur wrong. I'm not barricading, and i'm most likely shooting Gandalf.
If ya'll wanna strand me go ahead, i'm dying either way tonight
If you're not gonna play ball and shoot Hectic then
Intent on Iconeum.
You can stop this by:
(1) explaining why you no longer scumread Hectic (or at least scumread Hectic more); and
(2) giving me a plausible narrative for the world where neither you nor Hectic is scum.
~
This reminds me, how should we handle mason claims? I don't want to strand a mason but I also think it's probably terrible to have them out to prevent a stranding since that outs someone else for the strongman.
I'd be stunned if Iconeum is a mason so hopefully it never matters, but masons are the only people whose stranding should worry us so I'd like to figure out an answer. Hopefully they're just in the town piles so it won't matter.
Have you read the past couple pages? The 1v1 with Hectic and me ended in, let's call it a draw.
You think you can threaten me with that intent? If you think I'm scum, shoot me. If you think Hectic is scum, shoot him. This game is as easy as that. Stranding isn't even close to the value a lynch gives.
I'm just gonna be salty if I'm stranded
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:57 pm
by Carl Tuckerson
Don't tempt me with salt value, especially after you buck up on me like you aren't worried about getting stranded.
Humor me a bit. I read it, and I didn't clearly see why you changed your mind on Hectic. I see why you moved on Gandalf and I thought your progression made sense, but you reaffirmed your (bad) conclusion that Hectic isn't on his previous town meta, said he was misrepresenting you/the situation regarding who was pushing who at one point, and I don't see why you decided otherwise. That's why I asked you why you changed your mind and why I should believe we're suddenly in a world where you're both town.
I suggest you play along with my questions while you have the chance.
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:00 pm
by Iconeum
Why would I stay on Hectic if
1)it gets me stranded
2)it's not going to get him stranded
Our 1v1 should guarantee our slots will be sorted come morning anyway, there's little point in wasting more time there
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:08 pm
by Carl Tuckerson
That's not what I'm asking. You said this shortly before moving off Hectic:
In post 650, Iconeum wrote:I'm gonna cry if this is TvT with gandalf the laughing scum
It's plausible to me that you'd think voting for Hectic is counterproductive, but that's not the point.
The point is that your read appears to change, and you appear to believe Hectic is town. Is this correct?
If so, I don't get what changed about Hectic's behavior to make you think this, and I don't get how it is that we had such divergent opinions about his behavior before your recent exchange with Hectic, how you said that you still didn't see the meta point I raised based off his self-reference, but you ended up thinking he was town.
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:09 pm
by Formerfish
VOTE: Unvote
Icons recent posts have been giving me some strong town pings. This is a lot of the same ways I was feeling when I was about to win a recent game and had to die to do it.
I will be around for a bit tonight and tomorrow as well. Over, I feel like you are the only person I can trust myself to work with here, care to tie your dance card up with me?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:33 pm
by Iconeum
In post 731, Carl Tuckerson wrote:The point is that your read appears to change, and you appear to believe Hectic is town. Is this correct?
My tunnel on him is gone. I still kinda scumread him for it, but i'm much less sure about it. Let's say I can now see a world where he is actually town. Especially with the short deadline I dont see it as productive to keep pushing a single slip, when there isn't general support for it. I literally can't do or say anything more to push him then I already had.
What's worse is that I'm being scumread for my push (which happens to me nearly every game). So yeah I don't see much benefit in keeping that up.
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:53 pm
by Delta Klim
UNVOTE:
That is what I needed to hear.
We have 24 hours remaining. We should make the most of them.
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:57 pm
by Gandalf
VOTE: unvote
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:14 pm
by Gandalf
VOTE: menalque
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:14 pm
by Gandalf
VOTE: menalque
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:32 pm
by Menalque
Does icon dying down mean we’re ready to do egduf?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:18 am
by Hectic
Nah, she's town.
In post 673, Menalque wrote:I’m on my phone so I’ll get back to you when I’m on laptop in a bit
But basically everything around the “scumslip” by hectic
Still waiting on an update to this^
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:54 am
by Persivul
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:48 am
by Menalque
ugh, you people are gonna make me play aren't you
okay, I'm rereading for real based on first ~5 pages this seems like a good place to park up
VOTE: carl
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:53 am
by Oversoul
Please explain that read Menalque.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:56 am
by Iconeum
And how do you think that is a usefull vote, 20 hours from deadline?
With not a single word to back it up or convince others?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:56 am
by Menalque
carl and Gandalf aren't scum together
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:57 am
by Menalque
also, Jesus, calm your tits, I'm just beginning a read through, there'll be words to back it up when I'm at page 30 not page 7
and I have 20 hours to get whatever needs to go through, through
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:10 am
by Oversoul
Doesn’t due to mod’s vla it is going to be a couple of days before we see the
carnage
results from night 1
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:15 am
by RCEnigma
VOTE: Hectic
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:18 am
by Tet
VOTE: Hectic What I get for reading before I hit the road.
@Mod
I'll be V/La for at least the next 36 hours, possibly until the 5th.