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Titus wrote:Awoo, what am I supposed to do here? Yes my day 1 sucked. I own that. I also think Menalque is just mindlessly gunning and not sorting. I can respect voting me in a T v T v T situation as early play is my weakest. Just realize I was set up post flip.

In post 727, Menalque wrote:

chenn, could we get deadline countdowns in the VCs pls?

In post 732, Sujimichi wrote:I replaced Dongempire and am voting Titus (709).

In post 647, Awoo wrote:

In post 642, Joey_ wrote: Hm, she didn't anti-town, she just outed her reads who ended up wrong just like most of the table. Burying scum from your pov isn't that anti-town and it was on the verge of the lynch, so she had town behind her back and mutant was pretty much the designated lynch.

It's true titus has been pretty bad since d2 (and imo d1 was sloppy af). That doesn't make her scum tho. What is the scum agenda in being useless in a lynchpool?

BTw, you have been biased towards your reads since the very beginning with the latest post saying "Titus sounds like giving up scum" which comes from someone trying to confirm their POV.

I'll get to what I'm getting at. We go into the day. Titus is supposed to be the strongest person in the lynch pool, gets self nominated as scum. Norwegianboy just mishammered, and correspondence is afk. EZ mislynches in the bag, free towncred incoming.

Things don't go as planned, no one buys the correspondence thing, and norwegianboy doesn't catch on either. Momentum swings to titus. Scum partners (in union with the rest of the gmae) start calling titus scum and get ready for the bus. Titus as scum with daychat knows she's being bussed, and starts playing the giving up routine instead of actually fighting like mutant did. Lines up, doesn't it? And it's not too crazy of a story. Doesn't rely on specific associations with any hypothetical partners, and it explains her current behaviour.

What does titus have to do to say she's been set up? She needs to call me scum.

In post 649, Joey_ wrote:I mean, you have this read because his read list is very "convenient" aka common & not unique in anyway, correct?
From the moment you saw his list, you basically already believed he was mafia and tried to confirm that by questioning him; your whole line of questioning is biased and your conclusion too.
I understand why having a convenient read list can be scummy, but why is it not possible it's just coming from town ? You know a lot of people share this list, so I am assuming a lot of town too, so why not another townie, because of a replace in?

I don't really have any answers to those questions but I am just trying to make you realize the way you approached his posts.

"if he lied about his having a written out readslist developed when he said he did, and actually he just had some reads from skimming the last few pages and reading the overall state -- that he then later fleshed out and came up with reasons for -- I'm saying that's scum indicative"

I understand your rationale and suji could be mafia, I just think his answers were pretty good and made sens from a town pov, thats all.

"The thing is, he could also very well have posted the exact way he said he did and still be scum."

It's rhetoric but basically assomption A being true (his read list rdy or something) doesn't make assomption B true (his alignement). Like, he could've lied or exaggerated the reality for town purposes rather than scum ones etc. Basically I am saying that its not a good way to find his alignement

In post 652, Menalque wrote:NGL joey, if I'm wrong somewhere and suji flips scum you're looking

real

good for partners right about now

the fact that you seem really keen to encourage thinking about what might be possible regarding suji rather than what's likely is a big fat scumping for me

In post 680, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The vote is being pushed away from her and onto me, can’t you see it?

In post 703, Titus wrote:I feel confident in his ability to see I am town

In post 738, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 680, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The vote is being pushed away from her and onto me, can’t you see it?

can you be a bit more explicit about who is doing the pushing and what you think their alignments are? vague generalities like this without naming names are bad

In post 740, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Well Joey's been pushing for me and now he seems to think me and Titus are town and you (

referring to GuiltyLion

) might be scum.

So if Titus is scum then obviously i'd be suspicious of him.

chennisden wrote:

VC 2.5:

Titus (4)	Awoo 380, Menalque 391, NorwegianboyEE 479, Sujimichi 709.
NorwegianboyEE (3)	PMysterious, 492, Joey_ 612, Titus 474
GuiltyLion (0)
Not Voting (3)	pisskop 484, Creature, Correspondence

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2019-10-15 12:05:08).

In post 728, Joey_ wrote:Somehow I am starting to lean that GL might be the best flip, somehow. My guts says both titus/nEE are town meh

In post 746, PMysterious wrote:

In post 728, Joey_ wrote:Somehow I am starting to lean that GL might be the best flip, somehow. My guts says both titus/nEE are town meh

I saw this, and now I'm curious. If you think GL is the best flip, then explain a few things.

1. For everyone voting Titus, explain why you think Titus is town.

2. For everyone voting NorwegianboyEE (like me), explain why you think Norway is town.

3. If you think GuiltyLion is the best lynch, then why aren't you voting him yourself?

In post 728, Joey_ wrote:Somehow I am starting to lean that GL might be the best flip, somehow. My guts says both titus/nEE are town meh

In post 740, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 738, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 680, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The vote is being pushed away from her and onto me, can’t you see it?

can you be a bit more explicit about who is doing the pushing and what you think their alignments are? vague generalities like this without naming names are bad

Well Joey's been pushing for me and now he seems to think me and Titus are town and you might be scum. So if Titus is scum then obviously i'd be suspicious of him.