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Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:45 am**

In post 568, faüstiv wrote: hmmmmmmm...
GBJ could actually be scum here.

There's been no resistance at all on GuiltyLion's wagon. PtvUrist is on the wagon. Map Wolf has announced intent to hammer it. So has GBJ. In contrast, there has been resistance on the Ptv and Map wagon, mainly coming from GBJ. He votes then unvotes soon after and shadethrows on GL. Though saying that, he was on the Titus wagon early D2 too. I'm not sure whether he's town with a scattered mindset or scum looking for the easy ML. I'm leaning more towards town though; seeing as he's been on 4 wagons today. I don't think he'd join those wagons so quickly as scum and then come off them so quickly too, it's just drawing attention to himself.

PEDIT: just seen GBJ's most recent post, saying if GL is mafia then partner is Map. I don't get this thought process. Could you explain it?

Do you view GBJ has town now? Just curious reading through this post.

In post 585, GuiltyLion wrote:Because Titus and faustiv and GBJ sure aren't scum

What GL writes here turns out to be false in hindsight. One of the three are scum.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:48 am**

In post 722, Titus wrote:Map Wolf's posting feels really yucky. It's like she's throwing around who sticks with PvT but always pushes the other slot first...

Wrong pronoun assuming you are referring to me.

And yes, I am throwing around alignments, because I don't know what alignments people have for sure.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:49 am**

Official Vote Count 3.03

River Danube, Europe

LynchingWith 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to lynch.

Everybody

(0): Nobody

Not Voting

(5): faüstiv, GayBabyJailor, Map Wolf, PvtUrist, Titus

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-12-05 20:00:00).

Mod notes:

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Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:54 am**

In post 626, PvtUrist wrote:Town needs all 3 votes but scum only needs 1.
Assuming Titus is town,
it's up to faustiv whether we win or lose this game.

Hmmmmmmmmmm...

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:54 am**

PvtUrist¹ has been prodded early^{Rule 12} on request. If he posts in the next (expired on 2019-12-01 10:40:00) it won't count as a real prod. If he doesn't post in the next (expired on 2019-12-02 17:20:00), I'll start looking for a replacement.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:56 am**

I could have sworn PvT said that but I can't find the direct quote. Maybe it was a context thing.

I kinda had PvT as heavily town for if too at SoD but if my mind was wrong...

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:58 am**

Correct me if I've misinterpreted here, but this is what I think people's views are.

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Still prefer Titus lynch.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:03 am**

In post 725, Map Wolf wrote:
In post 568, faüstiv wrote: hmmmmmmm...
GBJ could actually be scum here.

There's been no resistance at all on GuiltyLion's wagon. PtvUrist is on the wagon. Map Wolf has announced intent to hammer it. So has GBJ. In contrast, there has been resistance on the Ptv and Map wagon, mainly coming from GBJ. He votes then unvotes soon after and shadethrows on GL. Though saying that, he was on the Titus wagon early D2 too. I'm not sure whether he's town with a scattered mindset or scum looking for the easy ML. I'm leaning more towards town though; seeing as he's been on 4 wagons today. I don't think he'd join those wagons so quickly as scum and then come off them so quickly too, it's just drawing attention to himself.

PEDIT: just seen GBJ's most recent post, saying if GL is mafia then partner is Map. I don't get this thought process. Could you explain it?
Do you view GBJ has town now? Just curious reading through this post.

In post 585, GuiltyLion wrote:Because Titus and faustiv and GBJ sure aren't scum
What GL writes here turns out to be false in hindsight. One of the three are scum.

yes I tr GBJ

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:04 am**

In post 731, Map Wolf wrote:Correct me if I've misinterpreted here, but this is what I think people's views are.

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Still prefer Titus lynch.

what do the colours mean?

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:06 am**

In post 733, faüstiv wrote: what do the colours mean?

Green townread, yellow null/neutral, red scumread. Darker color indicates strong read.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:13 am**

In post 725, Map Wolf wrote:
In post 585, GuiltyLion wrote:Because Titus and faustiv and GBJ sure aren't scum
What GL writes here turns out to be false in hindsight. One of the three are scum.

why bring this up

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:26 am**

Okay so these are the 10 possible options for the setup. 4 (in grey) I eliminate by the virtue of them containing me. Another (brown) would basically imply Faustiv is pushing for a correct lynch (Pvt) rather than Titus.

The three in green are the ones involving Titus, all of which I find very possible. The remaining (in yellow) involve GBJ. GBJ advocates for either MW/Titus or Titus/Pvt. So for it to be GBJ/Pvt, he'd basically be hoping for a Titus or MW lynch, while still kind of bussing his partner. The other one in yellow is Faustiv/GBJ. This is what Titus thinks is possible. And I suppose it is, but that would truly be insane.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:31 am**

i actually have pvt/map or pvt/titus now map wolf

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:32 am**

In post 736, Map Wolf wrote:
Okay so these are the 10 possible options for the setup. 4 (in grey) I eliminate by the virtue of them containing me. Another (brown) would basically imply Faustiv is pushing for a correct lynch (Pvt) rather than Titus.

The three in green are the ones involving Titus, all of which I find very possible. The remaining (in yellow) involve GBJ. GBJ advocates for either MW/Titus or Titus/Pvt. So for it to be GBJ/Pvt, he'd basically be hoping for a Titus or MW lynch, while still kind of bussing his partner. The other one in yellow is Faustiv/GBJ. This is what Titus thinks is possible. And I suppose it is, but that would truly be insane.

i mean i'm open to either Titus or PvT but sure.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:53 am**

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... p=drivesdk
my sheet

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:13 am**

In post 731, Map Wolf wrote:Correct me if I've misinterpreted here, but this is what I think people's views are.

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Still prefer Titus lynch.

This is yucky. Faustiv isn't at me and PvT are scumpartners at the exclusion of everyone else.

Second, you imply that I have done no work in sorting the game at all.

Third, you imply GBJ has PvT as lockscum despite not voting him.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:23 am**

tbf, i do think pvt is almost certainly scum, but it is always possible

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:23 am**

for pvt to be town

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:28 am**

In post 740, Titus wrote:
In post 731, Map Wolf wrote:Correct me if I've misinterpreted here, but this is what I think people's views are.

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Still prefer Titus lynch.
This is yucky. Faustiv isn't at me and PvT are scumpartners at the exclusion of everyone else.

Second, you imply that I have done no work in sorting the game at all.

Third, you imply GBJ has PvT as lockscum despite not voting him.

I colored you and Pvt red on the Faustiv row since that's his main read, although I can see that as being a bit misleading.

I colored your row yellow because what you are basically implying is that it likely is Faustiv/GBJ OR MW/Pvt.

I colored GBJ --> Pvt dark red because he is implying that Pvt is almost certainly scum.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:30 am**

In post 735, GayBabyJailor wrote:
In post 725, Map Wolf wrote:
In post 585, GuiltyLion wrote:Because Titus and faustiv and GBJ sure aren't scum
What GL writes here turns out to be false in hindsight. One of the three are scum.
why bring this up

Because I found it interesting. I like seeing posts that are wrong in hindsight.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:32 am**

In post 744, Map Wolf wrote:
In post 735, GayBabyJailor wrote:
In post 725, Map Wolf wrote:
In post 585, GuiltyLion wrote:Because Titus and faustiv and GBJ sure aren't scum
What GL writes here turns out to be false in hindsight. One of the three are scum.
why bring this up
Because I found it interesting. I like seeing posts that are wrong in hindsight.

it pings me more as "this post is wrong because im obviously town" which i don't really like

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:45 am**

In post 745, GayBabyJailor wrote:
In post 744, Map Wolf wrote:
In post 735, GayBabyJailor wrote:
In post 725, Map Wolf wrote:
In post 585, GuiltyLion wrote:Because Titus and faustiv and GBJ sure aren't scum
What GL writes here turns out to be false in hindsight. One of the three are scum.
why bring this up
Because I found it interesting. I like seeing posts that are wrong in hindsight.
it pings me more as "this post is wrong because im obviously town" which i don't really like

Sure I get that.
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I suppose that, unless we get some activity from Pvt soon, that we move to lynch Titus?
Now if Titus is town, then we honestly just deserve to lose this game. If scum is actually Faustiv/GBJ, then that's well played by them.
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I am sure that GL's thoughts would've been different had he known that Rise was the pr.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:38 pm**

sorry folks, was traveling for the past two days and will have limited access for another week.

I really don't know who I think is scum here anymore. Not putting my vote on Map Wolf today.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:42 pm**

ive read pvt's iso, and it's possible he just had the mentality of "why don't these people get that these other people are obvscum" and just got dead set on their day 1 scumreads. not saying i don't think he's scum now, but he could be town

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:55 pm**

In post 747, PvtUrist wrote:sorry folks, was traveling for the past two days and will have limited access for another week.

I really don't know who I think is scum here anymore. Not putting my vote on Map Wolf today.

So who do you think is the optimal lynch for today? Do you have any idea as to who the scumteam is?

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