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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:43 am
by Ame
You’re still acting like a savior in 719. I’d like to hear what bugs has to say before judging their alignment.

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:43 am
by gobbledygook
I didn’t want to kill SS, but Bugspray lolhammered before I could say anything. I should have unvoted when HEM left because that felt townie but I was distracted by other games.

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:44 am
by gobbledygook
In post 725, Ame wrote:You’re still acting like a savior in 719. I’d like to hear what bugs has to say before judging their alignment.
lol? If you think that’s what sounding like a savior is, then I don’t know. That was me explaining the gravity of my actions so far have not been as bad as bugspray

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:47 am
by Ame
In post 724, gobbledygook wrote:I think the only reason you didn’t get lynched yesterday was because you claimed. I know HG didn’t find your catchup particularly convincing and I’m not sure would have lived a Bugspray lolhammer
You don’t know that because you didn’t give me a chance. The logical thing would have been to put me at intent if my catchup wasn’t convincing not before.

but sure all hail the turkey Messiah

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:49 am
by gobbledygook
Truthfully america you’re lucky I didn’t just lolhammer you myself. I contemplated it when I gave intent to save you the trouble of reading the game.

Please reread end of day yesterday and give me your opinions on Bugspray hammering the literal vote after a vote count and not realizing it was a hammer vote.

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:50 am
by gobbledygook
Contemplated it before I gave intent

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:11 am
by Ame
In post 729, gobbledygook wrote:I contemplated it when I gave intent to save you the trouble of reading the game.
I HAD JUST STATED THAT I HAD CAUGHT UP AND WAS WORKING ON A POST

Why are you ignoring this

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:12 am
by Ame
In post 408, Ame wrote:
In post 402, HoldenGolden wrote:Did you catch up gobble. What are your reads?

VOTE: Ame
L1 pressure train lets go
Um what was the purpose for this?

I’m caught up! Thoughts in just a bit.
In post 410, gobbledygook wrote:I also am claiming intent on Ame.

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:12 am
by gobbledygook
I just clarified that I meant before I gave intent, like when exemplar replaced out I contemplated hammering the slot to save the mod from finding a replacement.

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:12 am
by Ame
In post 729, gobbledygook wrote:Please reread end of day yesterday and give me your opinions on Bugspray hammering the literal vote after a vote count and not realizing it was a hammer vote.
Do you mean like how the player you wanted to save from catching up had just posted that they caught up?

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:13 am
by gobbledygook
In post 734, Ame wrote:
In post 729, gobbledygook wrote:Please reread end of day yesterday and give me your opinions on Bugspray hammering the literal vote after a vote count and not realizing it was a hammer vote.
Do you mean like how the player you wanted to save from catching up had just posted that they caught up?
If you're gonna be like this then I'm not going to try to work with you.

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:16 am
by Ame
@Porkens why did you vote when you did?

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:16 am
by Ame
We need to have Inutile commit to reads today because they are just coasting.

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:16 am
by Porkens
Which time?

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:17 am
by Ame
popo doesn't seem to be doing anything either. They made that case on exemplar and have been riding that

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:17 am
by Ame
In post 738, Porkens wrote:Which time?
Oh sorry, HEM

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:18 am
by Ame
Gobbles, why did you town read me yesterday?

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:22 am
by Porkens
The replace out triggered me to vote him. It was time for a corpse anyway. However, I should have unvoted after SS didn’t self. Big sprays oopshammer is bullshit imo.

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:26 am
by gobbledygook
In post 741, Ame wrote:Gobbles, why did you town read me yesterday?
I townread Exemplar for his play prior to ragequitting. I also thought the ragequit was more likely to come from town than scum. When you defended bugspray, I thought there was a possibility my read on bugspray was wrong. However, after that hammer and the fake mea culpa afterward I think that I was right. I now scumread you because you have been a strident defender of bugspray who I think is scum.

The confidence is 70%. I still think there is a possibility that you are town and I do not want to lynch you today.
farside not gunning for my throat when I said I could not confirm someone is suspicious. She wants to kill me on a good day and this is most definitely a Bad Day, so her not wanting to kill me is odd.

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:31 am
by popopopopopopo
In post 743, gobbledygook wrote:I townread Exemplar for his play prior to ragequitting. I also thought the ragequit was more likely to come from town than scum.
In post 410, gobbledygook wrote:I also am claiming intent on Ame.
??

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:33 am
by popopopopopopo
vote gobble


hes lying about stuff

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:34 am
by inutile
In post 712, Ame wrote:Inutile what are your reads?
like i said i have been scumreading pretty much everyone to some extent so this list is mostly an attempt to weigh those scumreads against eachother. when i am kinda manic and excited to play i become don quixote tilting at windmills.

least likely to be mafia

farside - the associatives with porkens are the only thing i've noted as scummy. her stance on me feels unfair but not necessarily mafia indicative.
popopopopopopo - making a show out of wanting content instead of trying to get that content from players still feels mafia indicative to me. refusing to discuss that further also felt scummy to me. confidently declaring exemplar 100% scum probably a playstyle thing.
porkens - associatives with farside + the readslist being presented as a 'hey look i'm not scummy anymore' type of thing. like before that he was understanding of people scumreading him and then he made a big show out of having this big post coming, and then he presented that post as if it were meant to make him look town not to solve the game.
ame - the possible mafia reasons for the initial reads you presented feel stronger to me than the town reasons.
bugspray - it is hard to put that hammer any higher than this. i think they knew it was a hammer, but i don't know if town!bugspray would lie about not knowing it was a hammer. maybe. like 'i am going to believe in my reads this game' then hammering someone they thought was scummy follows, but the oh didn't mean to hammer part doesn't.
gobbledygook - too hard for me to believe him with all of the factors considered.

most likely to be mafia

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:35 am
by inutile
In post 715, gobbledygook wrote:So you two think Bugspray is town?
not particularly but i don't think you would never bus here either.

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:48 am
by gobbledygook
In post 747, inutile wrote:
In post 715, gobbledygook wrote:So you two think Bugspray is town?
not particularly but i don't think you would never bus here either.
You mean I actively try to kill my partner after claiming a role drew immediate suspicion and I don't hammer the person who claimed tracker?

Uh....

Right.....

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:53 am
by inutile
In post 748, gobbledygook wrote:You mean I actively try to kill my partner after claiming a role drew immediate suspicion and I don't hammer the person who claimed tracker?

Uh....

Right.....
hammering ame would have been an even scummier hammer than bugspray's. if you and bugspray are partners here, only one of you can be lynched today and then the other looks towny because of the reasoning you just laid out. i'm not saying it is a super strong associative, but it doesn't seem impossible and i also don't think one has to definitively say either you are mafia or bugspray is mafia. i am more confident that you are mafia but that doesn't mean i think bugspray is always town or even more likely town than other players.