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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:53 pm

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ill happily drop my questioning of the math wagon when someone on the math wagon can provide a solid reason for scumreading math
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:57 pm

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In post 707, Andresvmb wrote:I’ll catch up soon enough. Though I admit I might fall asleep doing it. I will say, there’s a lot of votes on Math all of a sudden (I skimmed) and that sort of thing tends not to catch Scum.
awaiting this take. i want this slot sorted the most out of yall cause i actually trust andres' reads most of the time
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:42 pm

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In post 659, Tayl0r Swift wrote:yeah but koba youre being emotionally manipulative. as town you shouldnt need to, and also its disruptive and causes disagreement. this is a team game, stop playing like an asshole.
In post 660, DkKoba wrote:And?
taylor u really had no reaction to my response?
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:43 pm

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i had nothing nice to say, so i said nothing at all. you behaving the way you are isnt fun but it probably isnt AI.
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:48 pm

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i dont understand why ppl on this site thing being critical of their analysis and putting pressure on them is bad like sorry i want to find scum i will use the thing called logic and emotional analysis. its effective ok!!
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:49 pm

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In post 729, DkKoba wrote:i dont understand why ppl on this site thing being critical of their analysis and putting pressure on them is bad like sorry i want to find scum i will use the thing called logic and emotional analysis. its effective ok!!
i havent seen you use logic this game. you using personal insults is not emotional analysis or logic. its just rude.
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:51 pm

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wow ok. kinda hurtful when i have put so much effort in already. :/
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:52 pm

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im gonna be off for the night im stressed asf and that kinda stung more than it should have probably good night
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:55 pm

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im not trying to be hurtful but i also dont tolerate bullies. you calling people dumb and saying that people shouldnt be listened to because youre better than them is frankly unacceptable, and if your reads are really that much better you can demonstrate it by simply being right and having reasoning people can see.
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:55 pm

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In post 733, Tayl0r Swift wrote:im not trying to be hurtful but i also dont tolerate bullies. you calling people dumb and saying that people shouldnt be listened to because youre better than them is frankly unacceptable, and if your reads are really that much better you can demonstrate it by simply being right and having reasoning people can see.
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:04 pm

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In post 653, DkKoba wrote:
In post 651, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 607, DkKoba wrote:
In post 583, JacksonVirgo wrote:Koba: Scum always pushes me lol
Me: Pushes them
Koba: They must be dumb town, scum would never push me
Are you saying you're scum?
No I'm saying you're contradicting yourself
Literally where
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:06 pm

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In post 674, NDMath wrote:
In post 523, DkKoba wrote:Ok so whats ur analysis then
Can you clarify what this is referring to since I'm not sure?
In post 524, VP Baltar wrote:Math, what is your read on Andres and DGB?
The game I played with Andres he became obvtown day 2 on, and based off what other people are saying that's the norm for town!andre. So I'm not really concerned with sorting him today; I think he's townlean but am not confident / can't effectively argue it.

Nothing in DGB's iso really looks like it would be alignment indicative for them. (Have not played with her before though.)


My timing suddenly looks really bad lol.
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:07 pm

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In post 681, DkKoba wrote:lol oops is that hammer
No that's 4 votes
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:07 pm

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In post 689, DkKoba wrote:the fact ur defending math just solidifies it
In post 698, DkKoba wrote:u know what.
Math.
I'll give u a chance.
UNVOTE:
lets see what u have to say
This progression considering the way you've been acting all game so far is wack asf.
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:10 pm

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In post 717, DkKoba wrote:math is scummy bc pee pee poo poo
In post 718, DkKoba wrote:mafia elim machine go brrr
Yeah I would appreciate to gank this, if not vig shot this thank
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:11 pm

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In post 734, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 733, Tayl0r Swift wrote:im not trying to be hurtful but i also dont tolerate bullies. you calling people dumb and saying that people shouldnt be listened to because youre better than them is frankly unacceptable, and if your reads are really that much better you can demonstrate it by simply being right and having reasoning people can see.
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:13 pm

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Oh I have a quote from someone let me find it
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:16 pm

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In post 6114, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Mafia isn't just about being right A50, but convincing others you're right.
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:48 pm

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In post 663, shellyc wrote:
In post 612, Tayl0r Swift wrote:so theres at least one scum in {shelly, dkkoba} based on their buddy-buddy interactions. im leaning towards either shelly or both. i think theres probably two scum in {infinity, koba, shelly} but not all three. i could see all three scum being in {infinity, shellly, koba, gerain}
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I don't follow the NDmath thing. you all been in other games together and I miss what you are on about.
but Koba's response posts felt weird. feel like I have a similar reaction to taylor swift. koba is so much noise....
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:50 pm

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Morning all, quick phone post before I rush off to work - more this evening.

DK explaining what misrep means != explaining what I said that she believes to be a misrep. I've pursued this fairly doggedly, because I'm not a fan of people just flinging stuff to see what sticks without having to justify themselves, but I realise I am in danger of missing stuff in the wider game by trying to chase down dkisms at this point.

I can see why the wagon on math is a thing. It's true that they are coasting a bit and that they are the type of player likely to respond to pressure, but there's deffo scummier and lurkier players out there imo. I don't think math will win any awards for scumhunting (sorry!) but there has at least been some deeper scrutiny in their posts eg them picking up on infinity changing their reasons for voting BP.

Thanks Taylor for your post encouraging common decency - let's do right by each other :)

Cross posted with geraint but probs ought to go do some work so will mull over what he's just said
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:11 pm

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In post 744, Marky Mark wrote:DK explaining what misrep means != explaining what I said that she believes to be a misrep. I've pursued this fairly doggedly, because I'm not a fan of people just flinging stuff to see what sticks without having to justify themselves, but I realise I am in danger of missing stuff in the wider game by trying to chase down dkisms at this point.
wait mark do you SR koba or just dislike their playstyle
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:35 pm

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There is certainly scum in the pool of people demanding wagon LOGIC, regardless of Math's alignment.

D1 is stagnating and a flash wagon was definitely called for. People crying it's not a wall case are not convincing.

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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:36 pm

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In post 745, shellyc wrote:
In post 744, Marky Mark wrote:DK explaining what misrep means != explaining what I said that she believes to be a misrep. I've pursued this fairly doggedly, because I'm not a fan of people just flinging stuff to see what sticks without having to justify themselves, but I realise I am in danger of missing stuff in the wider game by trying to chase down dkisms at this point.
wait mark do you SR koba or just dislike their playstyle
Also, co-sign this. Vote or shut up about Koba's play style.
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:15 am

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Okay my ability to pick out the Scum Team early is close to 0, so take this with a grain of salt. I was re-reading as carefully as I can, and through #275, I was at like a {JacksonVirgo, NDMath, VPB} Scum Team. I think Zdenek is possibly Scum, and did not like geraintm but there just isn’t enough there to make a legitimate push. My other thought was that if NDMath flips Town, consider shellyc. I think Koba is Town (sorry for doubting you earlier, though I am always open to updating my stances), and I think Infinity screams Town. Mainly because I agree with them a lot and think they’re reasonable and solving. Anyway, I’ll keep reading, I just wanted to put that out there.
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:19 am

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andres' reads feeel backwards to me.

im not asking for a wall on math. im just asking someone to explain why you suspect math, because i dont get it.
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