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In post 671, Noraa wrote:

In post 669, innocentvillager wrote:but you ignore the very contingent part of that case where, if i'm scum, shoshin isn't

its very weird that this is the thing that u point out. almost feels like strange caught for the wrong reasons vibes.
I disagree that if ur scum, shoshin isn't and vice versa. I see no reason you can't be scum together.

What???

In post 721, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 639, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Noraa trying to incept doubt from the sidelines while also saying Shoshin isn't necessarily town is noted.

Is this about 628/630 or something more
Not convinced if the former

it started from 284

In post 284, Noraa wrote:

In post 283, midwaybear wrote:

In post 221, Shoshin wrote:

In post 217, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I highly doubt that you can read Noraa, her friendliness is NAI, she seems like she slip by right under your nose if you were an informed cop, and your chainsaw defense of your fake townread screams scum to me.

This feels like too much justification for voting me, but maybe you believe it. Not sure.

I like the way Shoshin is handling ABR here, but I don't know if I can townread it.

this is like ten pounds of fence sitting in one sentence. impressive.

In post 674, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 668, Noraa wrote:Vp talk to me. ur the only calming voice in this chaos *gestures vaguely*

What do you want to talk about?

I mean, they probably both aren't scum here. I'd suspect some number of scum are in the background right now if it is Shoshin. If Shoshin is town, I'm mostly going to be scanning the pile of people trying to stay off the wagon for flimsy reasons.

I think I’m starting to TR vp

@Gamma : Noraa summarized her thought process surrounding Shoshin in the last page or so, what I said was factual, she's not TRing Shoshin but was defending her / arguing against me heavily

In post 723, Gamma Emerald wrote:Noraa how much weight do you put on associatives D1?

normally a lot but then I normally end up tunneling townie after townie. I've decided that can't do so idk. I think this game my goal is zero tunneling and more paying attention. So I am not putting too much weight into d1 associatives.

so if i have a scumbuddy who is being voted, i dont want to say theyre town, but i need a reason not to vote them, so i would say stuff like "they are too useful as town to vote out" to explain my position. it makes noraa look really bad especially if she doesnt vote shoshin.

In post 724, Albert B. Rampage wrote:well noraa you can vote shoshin now if it pleases you

no thnx. I like hammers

give me this L-1 and i will make it up to you later

In post 732, Albert B. Rampage wrote:give me this L-1 and i will make it up to you later

but I want the hammer.

In post 695, innocentvillager wrote:i just don't understand, how as scum i could possibly be comfortable with this gamestate when ABR has a reputation for just like, powerdriving elims (probably as scum as well as town) and hammering early

Well, if you’re scum with ABR you probably know what he’s planning, thus making you more okay with the process.

shoshin was at L-1 while I was online and I didn't hammer, I have discipline and want to win with you. Give me L-1 please, I know you like to hammer, but I have a strategy I want to implement so we can do this right.

In post 735, Albert B. Rampage wrote:shoshin was at L-1 while I was online and I didn't hammer, I have discipline and want to win with you. Give me L-1 please, I know you like to hammer, but I have a strategy I want to implement so we can do this right.

I'll cave
VOTE: shoshin

^E-1

Thanks Noraa.

If im scum in shoshin's position, i am being forced out of my comfort zone and i have a couple choices:

1) wait til it blows over
2) see if my buddies can bail me out
3) claim PR and call everyone idiots
4) claim VT and give up on this game
5) self-hammer

Let's see what happens guys.

scum never self hammers on day 1. that's impossible.

3 and 4 are the most realistic.

In post 738, Albert B. Rampage wrote:2) see if my buddies can bail me out

UNVOTE: shoshin

In post 714, Datisi wrote:i dunno lol i think noraa's kinda scummy too

I have seen minor pings but it feels more like Mini 2170 vs. MafiaSunny wrt how the pings make me feel? In the former the pings didn’t really set too hard in my mind initially, in the latter they rang out to me more.

actually i think that 80% of scum do 1). avoid the game, wait until townies get distracted and inevitably start pointing fingers at each other

the scummiest thing that shoshin can do is to pretend like there's no wagon on her, that there's no sense of urgency, and to patiently wait it out. 9/10 i dont exist in the game and cant get 7/13 players to agree on one thing.

In post 734, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 695, innocentvillager wrote:i just don't understand, how as scum i could possibly be comfortable with this gamestate when ABR has a reputation for just like, powerdriving elims (probably as scum as well as town) and hammering early

Well, if you’re scum with ABR you probably know what he’s planning, thus making you more okay with the process.

okay so then the solve in that very specific case is exactly ABR/me/shoshin, which it doesn't really seems like noraa was referring to

you had some problems with noraa's progression as well at one point as well, do you think the way she thought about the shoshin/me team was reasonable or scummy?

Ok. I'll help you push this wagon thru. the resistance to this wagon is plenty and it gives me pause.

YES! dont like the pressure fizzle out. gang gang

dont let*

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