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In post 691, Uncrowned wrote:What I said for Ali goes double for Kanna.

There is no world in which she realistically believes I am scum here.

In post 694, Uncrowned wrote:town!kanna null reads me or soft townleans me based on vibe alone

In post 695, Uncrowned wrote:she has a rough idea of how I operate as scum and this is the furthest thing from either of those games she's seen

a playstyle change shouldn't directly equal a townread. is that why you changed your playstyle? because i just saw you play scum? i don't townread you because you don't seem to be in a townie mindset at all. does towncrowned not care about the game at all/is incapable of reading? i don't think so. also i'm asking you to explain your reads but you aren't listening to me, which is just more annoying than anything

In post 696, Uncrowned wrote:also she gives ABR benefit of the doubt for his "confidence" but gives a fake read on me even though I've probably displayed similar amounts of confidence

i townread abr for confidence because i think this confidence is more town-indicative *for him*. i've seen some abr games. i don't think it applies to you. when has uncrowned been afraid, after all?

and to flip this, i'm pretty surprised you aren't townreading ali right now.

p-edit: i will claim only at intent, but i will prefer if you just hear me out first. townies please use good faith!

Ok, we're listening.

I did tr ali right up until e tried to push a quick lil elim on me

and again I didnt say it should equate to a TR but it should definitely not be a SR

In post 721, clidd wrote:VOTE: Kanna

btw bad vote from clidd who had me at a higher tier than uncrowned

p-edit: thank you

and I think its a bit of a stretch to say I dont care and im incapable of reading. I've just had less time available and trying out different stuff from my usual play as I've had a few weeks between my last game and this one

In post 729, Kanna wrote:

In post 721, clidd wrote:VOTE: Kanna

btw bad vote from clidd who had me at a higher tier than uncrowned

p-edit: thank you

Why's that make it a bad vote in your opinion?

sorry, i don't mean to be rude, it's just you are a player i think is at least on the same level as me so there's some things i expect to see, because i see them, like good faith.

clidd read: seemed like he was actually trying to figure out infinitys alignment

nah it's chill no stress

In post 731, Morning Tweet wrote:Why's that make it a bad vote in your opinion?

i just said: clidd had me in a tier above uncrowned when he made his readlist just before; said he'd give uncrowned some space, but the same courtesy was not stretched to me. if he thinks i could be town, why not?

but yes, more time please, i would like a proper chance to say what i want to say and stuff. that's only fair

ahsoka came off really good to me after the hopkirk interaction

now I'm more eh on the slot but I had good early pings which i tend to value quite highly

In post 655, Morning Tweet wrote:Yeah Ahsoka pretty much closed his eyes and ignored everything Infinity said that explained why his push was wrong, even though he clearly replied to the posts Infinity made so he should have known.

At least definitely regarding the "missing the context of my posts" point -- it is incredibly odd to me that Ahsoka emphasized that bit so hard. My theory is he did that because it sounded really good so he wanted to push the elim, even if, had he thought more about it, it didn't really hold up. So my question to the hood was: does town!FL willingly ignore stuff that goes counter to his case and just push it as hard as possible? Answer i got was "probably" from Mena

actually this was and was not what i meant. i think ahsoka looks bad for this, but bad =/= scummy. i think it's possible flavour legitimately believed what he was saying. so maybe agree with that "probably"

In post 736, Uncrowned wrote:ahsoka came off really good to me after the hopkirk interaction

now I'm more eh on the slot but I had good early pings which i tend to value quite highly

oh really? what did you think was good?

In post 735, Kanna wrote:

In post 731, Morning Tweet wrote:Why's that make it a bad vote in your opinion?

i just said: clidd had me in a tier above uncrowned when he made his readlist just before; said he'd give uncrowned some space, but the same courtesy was not stretched to me. if he thinks i could be town, why not?

but yes, more time please, i would like a proper chance to say what i want to say and stuff. that's only fair

ah i see now, i just needed more elaboration

Alright, clidd, why put Kanna to X-1 up front but not Uncrowned?

In post 732, Kanna wrote:sorry, i don't mean to be rude, it's just you are a player i think is at least on the same level as me so there's some things i expect to see, because i see them, like good faith.

*i expect you to see, because i see them

Ok, and does that change anything in your read on me, Kanna?

there's a lack of trying to look good and be perceived as town while making aggressive plays that could put them under heat quite easily that im not sure comes from scum

this is about ahsoka still btw

In post 718, Uncrowned wrote:should've tried harder to pocket me kanna my sweet <3

uncrowned lives in my pocket <3

In post 741, clidd wrote:Ok, and does that change anything in your read on me, Kanna?

uh... well, i already thought you were scummy, so no

also the whole attitude toward infinity seemed like legitimate town frustration/disbelief at how infinity was pushing him and not like a ploy/excuse to be on his wagon

Oh to explain more, I chose Kanna over clidd because I started getting the feeling Uncrowned may be town. I guess the way he's been conducting himself both overall as LHF/not caring combined with how he's snapping on Ali/Kanna for their reads on him now feel more likely to be self-oriented town to me.

Additionally Kanna didn't put my other scumread low on her list so it looked bad, and I was getting the feeling clidd might be town. And finally, I didn't really get where Kanna's confidence on clidd!scum came from.

so like, Uncrowned's current crusade against Ali/Kanna/whoever is making me think he's town but is not the reason I'm voting Kanna

I see no reason to not vote, since Uncrowned was showing that he was willing to fight for a living.

My vote is not always guided by my ratings.

And it was apparently effective, since you were resurrected.

In post 662, Morning Tweet wrote:Yeah i dont know about this one, Infinity specifically asked for clidd to reiterate his point so i'm not terribly surprised he does.

my clidd read was an unnatural!read and unnatural tells are pretty noteworthy to me. he doesn't feel *present* to me in a way that townies do. maybe i should pull some quotes from partition